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I can agree on a certain degree but not all overtime I have posted about almost all mi films and how they are a lot similar to bond in terms. After fallout released a whole lot of people was saying that they didn't copy intentionally but Director himself said it that he had a lot of influence from bond films. As for inspiration a member here once said to me that inspiration is a nice word for copyright violation. But all in all it wouldn't matter much if the end product is great even if it has a lot of inspiration from other films. But as I said only RN worked for me in that regard but a lot of people here get offended too easily by having different opinions.
If there's one thing that plagues MI for me it's the constant traitor in the organization/going rogue from its parent organization that annoys me in the series.
One could say FYEO rips off however many Bond films that preceded it. SF rips off many of its plot points from The Dark Knight and on and on if that's how you want to approach things.
The way those Elements were used was inspired, but the way they were lifted from other films was not.
I am firmly in the school that the MI filmmakers have never intentionally set out to copy, or swipe from Bond. They do their own thing, and over the last 4 films,,have done an excellent job.
I imagine the only obvious one would be the use of a "list" as a Macguffin. But even that plot idea has been around a long time, even before Bond, and to my eyes was inspired more by the first M:I than anything else.
As I´ve said before, I am of the opinion that, while ripping Things off, RN made very good stuff out of it.
Agreed and not just the opera scenes but there was a lot of things common in SP and mi5 which can't be a mere coincidence but still RN is still my favorite and had high rewatchabality for me.
I have posted a link if anyone wants to see the similarities between the two.
the boring answer is, try writing your own fresh MI script that has nothing in it that could ever be compared to a previous scene in Bond.
What I'd really like them to do (which will never happen) is make one more in line with the tv series, minimal action and focussing on the big con. A proper thriller where the audience isn't in on what's happening something like Usual Suspects or The Sting.
Christ almighty. No offence intended @Resurrection, but 90% of that video is total rubbish.
I mean, "Agent Jumps Off Roof"?
As I said, rip-off doesn´t necessarily mean the result is boring or otherwise disappointing.
MI:RN was actually released first.
when you combine that with stunts based on forms of transport, they are bound to have commonality.
The key difference for me is the tone. MI is very different and IMHO has never trod on Bonds toes re that side of things.
In terms of concurrently, I definitely agree. However, I think the recent MI films are more in the vein of some of Roger Moore's Bond films, and to a degree that's why I really enjoy them so much. The Craig entries have a distinctly different tone to the past (even SP), and MI is filling the void for me.
Something that is strange re Bond movies is that you rarely see him communicating with "commoners" (if that makes sense), he is either ordering them around (hotels, bars etc) or giving them comic one liners ("Health and safety, carry on"). The traffic cop in Fallout is treated as a real person and even though we don't know her, we see that Ethan deeply cares for her and I think the audience do to. It's an opportunity for Cruise to show his acting chops and I just can't imagine this in a Bond movie.
If you look for commonality, you will find it. But the same applies to differences.
@CraigMooreOHMSS None taken as I said before I enjoyed it more than any mi film and also SP but I wouldn't go as far as calling it 90% rubbish.It did raise some fair points imo
A lot of locations were common there especially blenheim palace.(Austria/Morocco/London)
Both have criminal organization behind the attacks and main Villian survived at the end.
New Boss lobbies to disband agencies.
Hackers getting in danger when involved in field work by main character.
Love interest got kidnapped and rigged bomb next to her.
Calling each other bluff
Talking across glass ceiling
Benji's character is a lot similar to Q.
People will say that it's just a coincidence but it's not. Why didn't john wick or Bourne series didn't have much similarities with bond. It raise a lot of questions there.
@bondjames RN was supposed to release in December 2015 but for some reason release date was pushed back 6 months, you can check in Wikipedia release section if you want.
Anyway I don't want to argue on these things but I could never believe like some members that they never try to take any sort of inspiration and going all by originally.But still I apologise if I have hurt anyone's emotions regarding mi.
Contrast this with Mendes who, in trying not to produce another SF, threw the baby out with the bathwater.
I just think the argument that RN drew inspiration from a film that was actually released some time later is rather tenuous at best.
I think we are all the product of our experiences, and that includes film makers. Everyone is inspired by someone. The trick is whether it comes across onscreen in a positive fashion, and on that note I'd say the MI films have succeeded lately - more so than the last Bond film, which gave me the impression of 'been there, done that better' far too many times (both in comparison to RN which was released prior, and in comparison to past Bond films).
If one wants to evoke the past, one must surpass it, either in terms of action, tension or in conceptualization.
Does this mean that they swiped from or ripped off the older film, absolutely not ; in fact the previous film may have not even provided inspiration, it could very well be a coincidence.