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I understand the Cavill criticism, but if MI Fallout proved anything, it’s that he can do smarmy, smug, belligerent and arrogant. We didn’t really know that before.
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A pretty decent film. With a better song and more lifestyle porn, it could’ve been a real contender. Then again, the way Craig tosses his room key away in disgust, perhaps Bond wasn’t in the right mindset for champagne, casinos and caviar.
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On the subject of a sixth Craig film, I dig him so I wouldn’t be against it. Watching the later Moore films recently, you just need rapid editing and carefully choreographed fight scenes. Bond takes two steps up the Eiffel Tower. Cut to: May D…
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Sure, Bond throws away his gun at the end of SP, but I just took that as ‘job done, let’s go shag.” Didn’t even see the promise of an enduring relationship.
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I’ll have a go at a top ten: 1) On Her Majesty’s Secret Service 2) Casino Royale 3) From Russia With Love 4) Licence to Kill 5) The Spy Who Loved Me 6) For Your Eyes Only 7) Dr No 8) Thunderball 9) The Living Daylights 10) Octopussy …
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John Barry is the ace up the sleeve, @bondjames. In sporting parlance, an extra player on the field.
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Just on TMWTGG. I’ve traditionally had this one low on my list for the unforgivable return of Sheriff Pepper, “take him to school” and Goodnight’s sheer idiocy. However, on a recent viewing, I noticed a slinky, sleazy, kinky, taught thriller b…
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talos7 wrote: » GetCarter wrote: » In fact, one wonders whether it is possible for John Glen’s action-based savoir faire (the last great era) will ever return in this drama-obsessed world we find ourselves in. They had a golden, misse…
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The problem with angsty narrative threads is you need to keep plumbing deeper and deeper. Bond has already fallen in love, gone on a vicious revenge rampage, grown old, lost a de facto parent, faced off against an ultimate nemesis, come full circ…
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Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: » GetCarter wrote: » I don’t think Boyle was a great loss. I mean, do we really need more “edgy”? A template Bond like the Glen films would be great. EON shouldn’t fall into the trap of trying to hard to carve…
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Considering there is a completed script somewhere out there in a vault, we may know for sure one day, @Getafix
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The advantage EON has over its AAA action adventure competitors is Fleming. The producers don’t need to try too hard to replicate the emotional resonance of The Bourne Supremacy and technical excellence of Mission Impossible: Fallout. All we n…
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I don’t think Boyle was a great loss. I mean, do we really need more “edgy”? A template Bond like the Glen films would be great. EON shouldn’t fall into the trap of trying too hard to carve out new territory. At this point, a comfortable pa…
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In any case, I find QoS much more watchable than the Mendes double.
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TR007 wrote: » I don’t understand all this love for Forester all of a sudden. He made a terrible film with QOS. If you’re looking for someone to direct the next Bourne movie, then that’s your guy. Please keep him away from Bond. Pretty goo…
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Can see a Noyce or Forster type slotting in if they want to salvage a 2019 release date. (I am one of the very few who adore The Saint). They’d wanna give Forster a crash course in lifestyle porn, however. QoS was very good, but it still lacked t…
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I find I go back to the 80s films the most. Well edited action adventures, that is all. Auteurs like Boyle and Mendes can go please themselves.
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Edgar Wright would be a disaster IMHO. I find his perspective a little too juvenile to successfully interpret Fleming’s world. Hard pass.
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doubleoego wrote: » I'd like Forster to return. I thought he did an excellent job all things considered. The man applied style and panache and gave us one of the best car chases in the series. 2 things though, abandon all that quick cut/Whaley …
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Where Bond gets angsty - LTK - Felix revenge GE - Alec T TND - Paris (arguably stretching it here) TWINE - M / King family DAD - left for dead (a wasted opportunity) CR - Vesper QoS - revenge rampage SF - old dog SP - step-brothergate …
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Landing a 2019 release from here would be admirable. My only wish is that it Bond 25 doesn’t try to revolutionise anything. Craig just needs a good bloody story like The Living Daylights. These damn movies have been making it ‘personal’ sin…
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bondjames wrote: » Bottom line is they are measured on the results. Of late, they have been less than pleasing, at least to me. We were promised a Boyle directed film with a Hodge script for 2019. That's 4 years after the previous film. Why? Th…
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The optics on Craig, both within the fan base and beyond, are certainly worsening.
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Yeah the excuses are indeed wearing thin. There is a sweet spot where reasonable fan expectation and industry reality can co-exist. 4-5 years for an outgoing and resoundingly successful leading man ain’t hittin’ it.
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Why do the producers feel the need to plumb some kind of novel thematic quirk or previously unexplored corner of Bond’s mind with each new movie? MI Fallout’s basic plot was as simple as it gets. Find nukes. Stop them going off. Just like Octopus…
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Getafix wrote: » Just not Mendes. Absolutely!
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TripAces wrote: » Campbell's great work after CR: tell me. I'll wait. I mean, CR was twelve years ago. So breakdown the brilliant directing career of Martin Campbell, 2006-2018. That'll be entertaining. The woodie that some of you have for this ha…
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If the call for more action is indeed true, I’m down with that. Bravura action sequences interspersed with lifestyle porn is what the Craig canon so badly needs. Enough with the angsty claptrap.
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This is what you get when you try to align a fairly rigid thematic template with an auteur. Boyle was never a good fit for Bond. If only the producers had set a stronger course after the SP debacle. DC’s influence needed to be curtailed years …
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I don’t want to seem overly negative, but I am concerned with the trend of ‘A list’ directors for Bond. If there was ever a template best suited for proficient journeymen, Bond is it. The world is there, the iconic character is right there. Th…
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