Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Don't worry, I gave myself the hook...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I still enjoy Pierce's Bond - a lot, actually. I love GE and TND. But you did make me smile, @peter. ;)

    @talos7 I agree with you about Hemsworth. And from day one, I have been against Hiddleston. No charisma, no appeal to me at all. I also don't know any woman who is attracted to him, though some think he is a fine actor. (Small sampling from the world, I know!). He does have fans, sure, but not me. I will be really disappointed if he is ever Bond.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I had a feeling I'd get "Murdocked" on that one. It was a chance I was willing to take!

    I agree with @talos7, and yourself @4EverBonded: if they were to go with a known actor, Hemsworth's charisma alone wipes the floor with the competition; especially Hiddleston. I've never been a fan. When I asked my wife her thoughts on his sex appeal, she gave an indifferent shrug. Hemsworth, it was wide eyes and big nods (and me feeling just a little inadequate at that moment in time...).

    Although, I can't see the next Bond being a well known actor. If you've heard, the next Star Trek film is in jeopardy because Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth have walked away from negotiations. As was noted in Deadline, when they started out in the first Trek film, they were unknowns. Now they're big actors who demand big salaries. This would be a headache for the Bond producers.

    I think it will be someone vastly different than Craig, but cut from the same thespian cloth. And he will be relatively new to the scene.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I want that. I am hoping for a good actor (naturally) who is not very well known at this moment. That would be great. I definitely feel they will go with an actor that does not look like Craig and not give the same vibes. That's fine with me (and I am a Daniel Craig as Bond fan). But each Bond actor has brought something new to the role. I look forward to that, somebody not so well known right this moment stepping into Bond's shoes/tux/car/life.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I have a gut feeling that's where they will go when the time comes. Having a name-name makes no sense from a budget POV. How much would Cavill's agents ask for? What about Hemsworth's people? If this guy already walked away from Trek, that means they think he's worth x number of dollars in a tent-pole franchise. They're not going to take a dime less. And what would they want built into the sequel? or the Threequel?

    They take a hungry actor who's actually a solid actor. And they build him over three pics (with an option for a fourth). If the guy hits it out of the park, they can re-negotiate-- which I believe happened with Daniel Craig and his films.

    But starting with a guy who could command $15 million vs $5 million?.... It's a non-starter, unless the name-name guarantees a billion at the box office... But we're not living in the star-driven era anymore, so no actor could ever guarantee that-- only certain franchises.

    The next Bond will be more low-key than a Cavill, and certainly a Hemsworth (who's more on upward trajectory)...
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Of the Marvel prospects, Hemsworth has it all over Huddleston. He has has the Alpha-Male quality that seems missing in Huddleston and has matured as an actor who also has the charm for the role.

    Agreed. Hemsworth's trajectory is what Cavill should have also experienced. Had this been the case, chances are not only would Cavill be a STRONG contender for Bond #7 but EoN may have decided to not bother with Craig for Bond 25 and just recast instead of trying to coax him back.

    If he doesn't have the charm or the appeal there's no reason Cavill should have experienced the same.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    The charm, appeal and overall acting ability was implied.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Yes, for the next Bond - a good actor and that intangible asset called charisma. Genuine charisma. I do hope so. And that not so easy to come by.
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    peter wrote: »
    I have a gut feeling that's where they will go when the time comes. Having a name-name makes no sense from a budget POV. How much would Cavill's agents ask for? What about Hemsworth's people? If this guy already walked away from Trek, that means they think he's worth x number of dollars in a tent-pole franchise. They're not going to take a dime less. And what would they want built into the sequel? or the Threequel?

    They take a hungry actor who's actually a solid actor. And they build him over three pics (with an option for a fourth). If the guy hits it out of the park, they can re-negotiate-- which I believe happened with Daniel Craig and his films.

    But starting with a guy who could command $15 million vs $5 million?.... It's a non-starter, unless the name-name guarantees a billion at the box office... But we're not living in the star-driven era anymore, so no actor could ever guarantee that-- only certain franchises.

    The next Bond will be more low-key than a Cavill, and certainly a Hemsworth (who's more on upward trajectory)...

    I think it would also depend where people like Hemsworths career are in 4-5 years. There’s no guarantee he will retain the same profile after Thor is killed off/rebooted.

    He could be ripe for the picking at a sensible price.

    It’s not as if any of the actors apart from Laz were really complete unknowns. They had all been around a while but just hadn’t broken into the big time. For Rog Bond came at just the right moment otherwise he was staring at Sunday afternoon TV oblivion. Ditto Brozza.

    Connery probably would have been a minor footnote without Bond.

    Laz and Dalton somehow managed to make themselves minor footnotes despite landing one of the biggest roles in movieland.

    Craig would never have got Bond if it wasn’t for Layer Cake I don’t think. That was the best calling card/screen test for Bond ever probably.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Re Cosmo Jarvis...

    Anyone called Cosmo should play Bond or be a cat.

    "Cosmo, come here, kitty. Good girl!"

    He was a singer before he turned to acting. I suppose EON could save some money hiring him as Bond and letting him do the theme tune too. :P




    Can't really tell if he has Bond potential but worth considering.
    The next Bond will be more low-key than a Cavill, and certainly a Hemsworth (who's more on upward trajectory)...

    I agree. An unknown type will not be able to command a big fee for his first Bond film so the rise in salary - second, third, fourth film - shouldn't be quite as steep. If you take a more established actor I'm guessing their first Bond film will be a lot more than casting Joe Unknown. Why cast Cavill, Turner, Elba etc when you can find a much cheaper guy!

    Also, I get the feeling Barbara Broccoli is less inclined to cast a more conventionally handsome man in the role. This is just a vibe I get, could be wrong. My feeling is she will cast an actor not known for his looks which means more actors have a chance.
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    I reckon the idea they will choose an ‘unknown’ is misplaced.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I don't think they will choose an unknown. I just think it won't be a name who carries a 15 million dollar price tag. An actor like a Hemsworth or even a Cavill doesn't give the producers much wiggle room in negotiations-- especially for films two and three.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I reckon the idea they will choose an ‘unknown’ is misplaced.

    Agreed...that happened with Lazenby and he was overwhelmed by the whole thing.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think they will choose an unknown. I just think it won't be a name who carries a 15 million dollar price tag. An actor like a Hemsworth or even a Cavill doesn't give the producers much wiggle room in negotiations-- especially for films two and three.

    The Bond actors generally sign multi-film contracts to start off with, so the first three should be a part of the same deal.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think they will choose an unknown. I just think it won't be a name who carries a 15 million dollar price tag. An actor like a Hemsworth or even a Cavill doesn't give the producers much wiggle room in negotiations-- especially for films two and three.

    The Bond actors generally sign multi-film contracts to start off with, so the first three should be a part of the same deal.

    Exactly: if you're a Hemsworth and your asking price is 15 milllion for the first film, where do they go as they negotiate the first three films.

    It makes more sense for the producers to find a strong candidate who doesn't carry a hefty price tag. As I said earlier in this thread, if he knocks it our of the park, they can re-negotiate the terms of his next two films-- which I believe happened to Daniel Craig.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I reckon the idea they will choose an ‘unknown’ is misplaced.
    I tend to agree. They went with Craig for a specific reason last time, as they wanted to shake it up. They don't really need to do that this time, especially if Boyle brings something different to the table for B25 and takes things in a different direction for the future, which he probably will.

    There has been a pattern in the past with castings though, despite some unpredictability. An unknown (stateside at least), followed by someone relatively known. If they follow this approach then we will get someone who most know, even if casually, and I think this is what they will do next time. They've also alternated actors who are intense with actors who are smooth.

    Babs Broccoli seems to have a type though. She reportedly liked Bean during the GE auditions as well - so much so that he was cast as the villain. She appears to favour actors who can bring a certain darkness in their characterization, which I too believe is essential for a good Bond.

    Hemsworth will not be Bond. I'm 100% certain of it. He is very good with light hearted scenes but I've yet to see him demonstrate any depth in dramatic scenes, even in IW. He lacks a natural intensity, despite being incredibly well built.

    If she maintains her M.O, she will cast someone who can hit the dramatic notes first, and do the lighter elements second. Donna Langley at Universal is an influential industry player who has a record of picking hits. If she is still involved with B26, she will have input as well. So will Megan Ellison, I'd surmise.
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    I think they'll go for a lesser known veteran myself. Someone that might not have even been mentioned now. Before Daniel Craig started getting rumored, who were the bookies ' favourite? Jude Law? Colin Farrell? Robbie Williams?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think they'll go for a lesser known veteran myself. Someone that might not have even been mentioned now. Before Daniel Craig started getting rumored, who were the bookies ' favourite? Jude Law? Colin Farrell? Robbie Williams?
    Here are some of the old names in the frame. Some bring back memories:

    http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/next-james-bond-25-actors-idris-elba-tom-hardy-daniel-craig-007
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    You're probably right about Hemsworth, although he's not the worst suggestion I've heard chucked around.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    You're probably right about Hemsworth, although he's not the worst suggestion I've heard chucked around.
    I've grown to like him. He was terrific in the superb Thor Ragnarok, but the film was set up to play to his comedic strengths, which he first showcased in Rush. Even in IW, he seemed out of his depth to me, until he started playing it lighter.

    I just can't see Broccoli favouring an actor who only comes alive during the jovial moments. She will go for a guy who can hit the dramatic elements first. She's pretty much said it recently. First criteria - good actor.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think they'll go for a lesser known veteran myself. Someone that might not have even been mentioned now. Before Daniel Craig started getting rumored, who were the bookies ' favourite? Jude Law? Colin Farrell? Robbie Williams?
    Here are some of the old names in the frame. Some bring back memories:

    http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/next-james-bond-25-actors-idris-elba-tom-hardy-daniel-craig-007

    Jesus Christ there was some terrible names there. Julian McMahon? Eesh.

    The one interesting name, that I had completely forgotten about was Eric Bana. I have never heard him do an English accent, but he is a good actor. Probably too old to be in the frame now, anyway.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think they'll go for a lesser known veteran myself. Someone that might not have even been mentioned now. Before Daniel Craig started getting rumored, who were the bookies ' favourite? Jude Law? Colin Farrell? Robbie Williams?
    Here are some of the old names in the frame. Some bring back memories:

    http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/next-james-bond-25-actors-idris-elba-tom-hardy-daniel-craig-007

    Jesus Christ there was some terrible names there. Julian McMahon? Eesh.

    The one interesting name, that I had completely forgotten about was Eric Bana. I have never heard him do an English accent, but he is a good actor. Probably too old to be in the frame now, anyway.
    Yes. Bana can be good, and I like his look. Unfortunately, I was first exposed to him in the tragic Hulk, and had an unreasonably negative impression of him for some time afterwards on account of this.

    He was in a small budget film set in the UK a few years ago entitled Closed Circuit with Rebecca Hall (Bond girl material imho), and I immediately thought he had potential. You're right that he's probably too old though.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    If not Hemsworth, my frontrunner at the moment, I think it will be someone with his level of fame and accomplishment , or just below. I don't see them going with a complete unknown.
    Also , who knows who will be choosing the next Bond. it may not be Barbara.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    It's been a long time since I've seen Troy, but didn't Bana speak with a supposed English accent there?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    You're probably right about Hemsworth, although he's not the worst suggestion I've heard chucked around.
    I've grown to like him. He was terrific in the superb Thor Ragnarok, but the film was set up to play to his comedic strengths, which he first showcased in Rush. Even in IW, he seemed out of his depth to me, until he started playing it lighter.

    I just can't see Broccoli favouring an actor who only comes alive during the jovial moments. She will go for a guy who can hit the dramatic elements first. She's pretty much said it recently. First criteria - good actor.

    If they wanted to go for a more light hearted Bond (seems unlikely), they could do a lot worse than Hemsworth. He'd milk every ounce of humour out of any script, no matter how weak. Give him a genuinely witty screenplay, as Marvel seem to be able to deliver with pretty much every film, and he'd hit that aspect of Bond out of the park.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    It's been a long time since I've seen Troy, but didn't Bana speak with a supposed English accent there?
    I only saw that once and so can't recall.

    Here is the trailer for Closed Circuit. He has an accent here. Like I said, I do like this guy's look.


    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    You're probably right about Hemsworth, although he's not the worst suggestion I've heard chucked around.
    I've grown to like him. He was terrific in the superb Thor Ragnarok, but the film was set up to play to his comedic strengths, which he first showcased in Rush. Even in IW, he seemed out of his depth to me, until he started playing it lighter.

    I just can't see Broccoli favouring an actor who only comes alive during the jovial moments. She will go for a guy who can hit the dramatic elements first. She's pretty much said it recently. First criteria - good actor.

    If they wanted to go for a more light hearted Bond (seems unlikely), they could do a lot worse than Hemsworth. He'd milk every ounce of humour out of any script, no matter how weak. Give him a genuinely witty screenplay, as Marvel seem to be able to deliver with pretty much every film, and he'd hit that aspect of Bond out of the park.
    I agree.
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think they'll go for a lesser known veteran myself. Someone that might not have even been mentioned now. Before Daniel Craig started getting rumored, who were the bookies ' favourite? Jude Law? Colin Farrell? Robbie Williams?
    Here are some of the old names in the frame. Some bring back memories:

    http://ca.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/next-james-bond-25-actors-idris-elba-tom-hardy-daniel-craig-007

    Jesus Christ there was some terrible names there. Julian McMahon? Eesh.

    The one interesting name, that I had completely forgotten about was Eric Bana. I have never heard him do an English accent, but he is a good actor. Probably too old to be in the frame now, anyway.

    It is a scary list. McMahon would have made the first Eurotrash Bond. Clive Owen, Ewan McGregor, I never understood their appeal to some.
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    I know. Clive Owen is so down beat. Would have made Craig Bond seem like a barrel of laughs. May be McGregor would have been alright.
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