Rejected Songs & Official Remakes & Rare Cover Versions

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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I've always wondered what Pet Shop Boys would have done with a Bond theme, I think their above song was rumoured for TLD. Along with Depeche Mode, I also love Pet Shop Boys....I think they're both similar in style.


    I have heard this before, but to me this comparison is unfathomable. I love Depeche Mode as much as I loathe The Pet Shop Boys. I see no similarities whatsoever.

    Yeah, I know what you mean. Depeche Mode are darker, but Pet Shop Boys have a lighter style. But what I find similar in them is, they both sound futuristic. I love them a lot.

    I find DM to have produced by far the greatest number of Bondian-sounding songs without having recorded an actual Bond theme. Such a shame they never got a chance!

    They were asked in 1999, but rejected the offer.

    Oh! Wow! Were they?....can't say I've heard about that.
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    Anyone else love making Bond-related playlists? I tried making a "completist" chronological playlist combining all the official themes, secondary themes, themes to unofficial films, and rejected/rumoured/alternative themes, plus a few other additions. Other than the official 25, so far my list includes:

    Kingston Calypso (Byron Lee)
    Jump Up (Byron Lee)
    Under the Mango Tree (Diana Coupland)
    Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Shirley Bassey)
    Casino Royale (Herb Alpert)
    The Look of Love (Dusty Springfield)
    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown (Nina)
    TMWTGG (Alice Cooper)
    Make It Last All Night (Rage)
    For Your Eyes Only (Blondie)
    Never Say Never Again (Lani Hall)
    California Girls (The Beach Boys)
    Where Has Everybody Gone (The Pretenders)
    If There Was a Man (The Pretenders)
    This Must Be the Place I Waited Years to Leave (Pet Shop Boys)
    If You Asked Me To (Patti LaBelle)
    The Experience of Love (Eric Serra)
    The Juvenile (Ace of Base)
    Surrender (k.d. lang)
    Tomorrow Never Lies (Pulp)
    Only Myself To Blame (Scott Walker)
    Millennium (Robbie Williams)
    London Calling (The Clash)
    No Good About Goodbye (Shirley Bassey)
    Rain On Your Parade (Duffy)
    Supremacy (Muse)
    24 (Lana Del Rey)
    Man of War (Radiohead)
    Spectre (Radiohead)

    I'll also be adding some tracks from David Arnold's Shaken and Stirred album.

    If you are adding Robbie Williams because of the YOLT sample, then you might like Six Underground by Sneaker Pimps as it has the Golden Girl riff in it. Nina also recorded a song which was first choice for OHMSS - The More Things Change. Plus Phylis Hyman was first choice for NSNA.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,247
    vzok wrote: »
    Anyone else love making Bond-related playlists? I tried making a "completist" chronological playlist combining all the official themes, secondary themes, themes to unofficial films, and rejected/rumoured/alternative themes, plus a few other additions. Other than the official 25, so far my list includes:

    Kingston Calypso (Byron Lee)
    Jump Up (Byron Lee)
    Under the Mango Tree (Diana Coupland)
    Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Shirley Bassey)
    Casino Royale (Herb Alpert)
    The Look of Love (Dusty Springfield)
    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown (Nina)
    TMWTGG (Alice Cooper)
    Make It Last All Night (Rage)
    For Your Eyes Only (Blondie)
    Never Say Never Again (Lani Hall)
    California Girls (The Beach Boys)
    Where Has Everybody Gone (The Pretenders)
    If There Was a Man (The Pretenders)
    This Must Be the Place I Waited Years to Leave (Pet Shop Boys)
    If You Asked Me To (Patti LaBelle)
    The Experience of Love (Eric Serra)
    The Juvenile (Ace of Base)
    Surrender (k.d. lang)
    Tomorrow Never Lies (Pulp)
    Only Myself To Blame (Scott Walker)
    Millennium (Robbie Williams)
    London Calling (The Clash)
    No Good About Goodbye (Shirley Bassey)
    Rain On Your Parade (Duffy)
    Supremacy (Muse)
    24 (Lana Del Rey)
    Man of War (Radiohead)
    Spectre (Radiohead)

    I'll also be adding some tracks from David Arnold's Shaken and Stirred album.

    If you are adding Robbie Williams because of the YOLT sample, then you might like Six Underground by Sneaker Pimps as it has the Golden Girl riff in it. Nina also recorded a song which was first choice for OHMSS - The More Things Change. Plus Phylis Hyman was first choice for NSNA.

    Yeah, Six Underground by Sneaker Pimps is also very cool. Nina's The More Things Change is subtly good, since she did it with Barry. And Phyllis Hyman's NSNA in a way I can't quite describe, reminds me of Gladys Knight's LTK....probably something to do with Hyman's style of singing. There are other Bond sounding songs as well.....we can imagine the list is endless.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383

    vzok wrote: »
    Anyone else love making Bond-related playlists? I tried making a "completist" chronological playlist combining all the official themes, secondary themes, themes to unofficial films, and rejected/rumoured/alternative themes, plus a few other additions. Other than the official 25, so far my list includes:

    Kingston Calypso (Byron Lee)
    Jump Up (Byron Lee)
    Under the Mango Tree (Diana Coupland)
    Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Shirley Bassey)
    Casino Royale (Herb Alpert)
    The Look of Love (Dusty Springfield)
    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown (Nina)
    TMWTGG (Alice Cooper)
    Make It Last All Night (Rage)
    For Your Eyes Only (Blondie)
    Never Say Never Again (Lani Hall)
    California Girls (The Beach Boys)
    Where Has Everybody Gone (The Pretenders)
    If There Was a Man (The Pretenders)
    This Must Be the Place I Waited Years to Leave (Pet Shop Boys)
    If You Asked Me To (Patti LaBelle)
    The Experience of Love (Eric Serra)
    The Juvenile (Ace of Base)
    Surrender (k.d. lang)
    Tomorrow Never Lies (Pulp)
    Only Myself To Blame (Scott Walker)
    Millennium (Robbie Williams)
    London Calling (The Clash)
    No Good About Goodbye (Shirley Bassey)
    Rain On Your Parade (Duffy)
    Supremacy (Muse)
    24 (Lana Del Rey)
    Man of War (Radiohead)
    Spectre (Radiohead)

    I'll also be adding some tracks from David Arnold's Shaken and Stirred album.

    Nina also recorded a song which was first choice for OHMSS - The More Things Change.

    How funny, this has completely passed me by. It's nice but not earth-shattering, and possibly more late-60s than anything else Barry did for Bond!

    I've always wondered about Who Will Buy My Yesterdays- I know it's on his Ready When You Are JB album but was it a song at some point too?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited August 2020 Posts: 6,297
    The More Things Change is really interesting, and made me so nostalgic for Barry and his outsize influence on the films. Thank you!

    From the sublime to the ridiculous, that NSNA song above isn't bad and better than what we got...I wonder if it got deep-sixed because of the use of the Bond theme?
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.

    Yeah, I think your right. Once they changed the title of the film, it was dead in the water, regardless.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Roadphill wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.

    Yeah, I think your right. Once they changed the title of the film, it was dead in the water, regardless.

    Exactly.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Roadphill wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.

    Yeah, I think your right. Once they changed the title of the film, it was dead in the water, regardless.

    Was the film ever called that? I always took that as a press invention. I think it's a pretty dreadful name.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    mtm wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.

    Yeah, I think your right. Once they changed the title of the film, it was dead in the water, regardless.

    Was the film ever called that? I always took that as a press invention. I think it's a pretty dreadful name.

    That was the working title, I believe. It's not brilliant, but it's better than Die Another Day..
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Roadphill wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Beyond The Ice is far from a great song, but it's a million times better than Madonna's claptrap, and has some nice call backs to earlier films.
    Actually, they should have stuck to that title, too. Die Another Day really is a paint by numbers name for a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think Red Flag's 'Beyond The Ice' might have been rejected due to its very melancholic and dark style....probably too dark-sounding for Bond and especially for that era. But like you pointed out, it's not exactly impressive on its own, the song didn't seem to take itself further, after a promising Bondian opening.

    Yeah, I think your right. Once they changed the title of the film, it was dead in the water, regardless.

    Was the film ever called that? I always took that as a press invention. I think it's a pretty dreadful name.

    That was the working title, I believe. It's not brilliant, but it's better than Die Another Day..

    No, it's worse. Was it actually the working title though? I've not seen any evidence for that, it just got called that in the press, much like how folks like Baz Bamigoyme said TND was going to be called 'Avatar'.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    I'm pretty sure it was.
    Good lord, was that really the rumoured title for TND? I think Bad was making mischief. The original title for TND was Tomorrow Never Lies...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Roadphill wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it was.

    Based on what though?
    Yeah, Bond 18 was called Avatar in the press for ages, then I think they even tried to suggest the next one would be called that as well. There was an awful lot of tot spoken about Bond films in the press at that time, which is why I tend to lump 'Beyond The Ice' in with them: it sounds just as unimaginative and, frankly, made up.
    Mind you, I guess we had the 'Shatterhand' rumour for this one, but that at least has some sort of basis in Bond.
  • Posts: 128
    Last week Mark Ronson briefly shared the demo for what would have been his theme for NTTD. Anyone catch it?

    https://dancingastronaut.com/2020/10/mark-ronson-shares-unreleased-bond-demo-as-part-of-voting-advocacy-compilation/
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    I saw the link but I couldn't understand how I'd listen to it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,383
    Yes I got it, it wasn't really any good. I didn't give it a second listen I'm afraid.

    Speaking of rejected songs, David Arnold did speak a little bit about I Will Return on Twitter today.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 128
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes I got it, it wasn't really any good. I didn't give it a second listen I'm afraid.

    Speaking of rejected songs, David Arnold did speak a little bit about I Will Return on Twitter today.

    Any chance you could share the song? I'd very much like to hear it.


    EDIT: Never mind, it's been uploaded to Youtube:

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    It's been shared now, I've seen a clip elsewhere on the forum tonight.
  • Posts: 859
    coco1997 wrote: »
    Last week Mark Ronson briefly shared the demo for what would have been his theme for NTTD. Anyone catch it?

    https://dancingastronaut.com/2020/10/mark-ronson-shares-unreleased-bond-demo-as-part-of-voting-advocacy-compilation/

    I don't understand : "the bond song that never was for the bond film" say it's Tweet. It was for the movie or not ?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Nice interview with Nancy Sinatra; about halfway through she talks about YOLT and re-recording it for the US charts which we hear a little of:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000n4rw
  • Posts: 157
    Sandra never heard this before rerecord it without title it would make another Bond title, I've surprised they never used it at the end of the movie
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited April 2021 Posts: 4,585
    Oh my my, ooh la la...Hello, there, Katie Melua!!!!

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Just heard this new cover version of DAF on the radio, it's very cool.

  • DeathToSpies84DeathToSpies84 Newton-le-Willows, England
    Posts: 257
    The Pet Shop Boys theme would of worked perfectly if Dalton got the chance to do his third outing.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    mtm wrote: »
    Just heard this new cover version of DAF on the radio, it's very cool.

    Nice! This will play today in the background while I am working.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2021 Posts: 16,383
    Not sure if this has popped up before, but I'm surprised I've never before heard this 2008 laid-back version of A View To A Kill by Morcheeba's Skye Edwards:

  • Whoa, cool! Thanks for posting this, @mtm. As a fan of both AVTAK and Morcheeba, I'm kind of amazed I had never come across this before. Not really the best utilization of the theme in my opinion, but a neat find nonetheless.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    How about this mashup I put together: Anthony Newley's jazzy vocal with John Barry's full orchestral film version of Goldfinger:

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    mtm wrote: »
    How about this mashup I put together: Anthony Newley's jazzy vocal with John Barry's full orchestral film version of Goldfinger:


    Very cool, great job. I still prefer the Bassey version.
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