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"It's love. It's personal. It's revenge. It's Bond."
Sounds great.
That wouldn't surprise me at all !
Could not agree more.
Yes, not a big fan of what is reported and hope it's just click-bait (after the last film, would EoN so easily allow any story threads to get out to the media?? I do t think so)
I love it.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. You could even have more scenes with Eva if you started the PTS in the past, showing Vesper with the Boyfriend and her entanglement with Quantum/Spectre/Blofeld. Agree, Madeline out of the picture, never shown, and then go off on a mission related to Blofeld with a new girl and no more emotional weight other than Vesper.
Totally agree, i want a marriage of Bond and Madeleine at the End of Bond 25, that would be the perfect Ending for the Craig-Bondmovies
Still room for plenty of creativity, especially in the action setpieces.
A little better.
While I understand that they may want to go back there in order for Craig to have some acting meat on the bone, I just think it's a bit of a retread based on what he's been through already.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.......... I love it!
I agree. If these rumors are true Bond 25 will likely make SP look great by comparison. If this leak is real it will be one of if not the weakest EON Bond film. Sounds so lazy and unoriginal.
If hunt down Tanner insteed of Bond and M gives Bond 5 hour to find Tanner. Plus mabey created scene where M said hard ''NO'' when Moneypenny and Q whant to go with him. Something that wil save his life when the new Mi6 be atacked / taken over whyle Bond is not there.
Camile and Felix should be only one to help.
I think you guys should take this with a pinch of salt and remain optimistic.
If they are going down the YOLT route then leave Maddy well alone and make Blofeld a mad dog that needs putting down for the good of the planet and for the cumulative deaths of Vesper and M but don't make it solely about revenge.
So I think you do have to break Bond down and put him in a dark place to do it justice. But the more I think about it the more I'm not keen on killing Madeline off (and especially not keen on them getting married, please don't let that be true). But I think she does have to be addressed.
How about she leaves Bond because he can't live a normal life. Sparing Blofeld has put him on edge when he hears about his escape (I really like your idea of footage of him torturing Vesper being shown at his trial too @TheWizardOfIce, that'd get to Bond, make him more menacing and make the retcon more believeable) and he's paranoid. On edge. Madeline leaves him and this sends him into a spiral of self destruction, drinking, self pity, etc. Madeline, his last chance at happiness, is gone. So he blames Blofeld for ruining his life. And with no work to focus on, he's got nothing to stop himself from sitting and mulling over the events of the last few films. He's being forced to deal with feelings he'd repressed (maybe he could develop PTSD?) and seeing that footage of Vesper in particular has opened up old wounds. M hears of how he is, pities him, offers him a new job in the diplomatic section out of sympathy, and then we get YOLT.
Bit contrived but more interesting than Madeline dying right? The "Taken with Bond" comments have be a bit worried too. Bond isn't out for revenge in YOLT. Not until the end anyway. Most of the book is just him going down the rabbit hole on this weird surreal journey. You'd have to add more action obviously (bullet train fight please) but I think a whole film of him knowingly hunting down Blofeld would be missing the point a bit. I probably sound picky but it's my favourite of the novels and this would be the only Bond adaptation where I hadn't seen the film first (didn't start reading the books until after CR came out), so if they're going to use it I just hope they do it properly.
The idea I had of using the footage was more to show that Blofeld is a total and utter bastard than to break Bond and leave him a self pitying loser blaming Blofeld for his plight. That just makes him as pathetic as Franz Oberhauser and I don't think audiences want to see Bond sat at home all depressed with the washing up and Dominos boxes piling up while he sits around in his pants watching 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown.
The problem they've got is to do justice to YOLT the previous film needs to lead into it, but of course they've already cocked that up.
Are you offering me outside for an undignified rumble in the street?
The mid 90's, when everyone went on the internet for the first time, called and wants its threats back.
You seem to have totally lost the plot at what was a bit of good natured joshing by @barryt007 and at same time seem to have proved Partridge's point.
I like the Vesper flashback idea though (any chance for Eva Green returning would be worth it).
My preference would be for Madeleine to be dealt with off-camera prior to the film starting (either she died or she left him) and let B25 start a few years after the events of SP.
I think it's actually easier in person to be fair. I think we all give our friends shit and take the piss out of them in person don't we, and everyone involved knows it's just a laugh. But on a forum, with written text posts from people we don't really know, it's much easier for something meant as a joke to be taken to heart. You can rip into someone in person and be laughing and joking and they can tell it isn't malicious in the slightest. Bit harder to get that across through an anomynous message board I reckon, but @BondJason doesn't seem to have taken issue with it so he probably understands it's all just banter. No harm done. Besides he was/is in the army. He'll be used to banter like that.