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  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    I'm a little concerned about how Craig will look in another 2 years time..the more i think about it,the more i think a new Bond was needed.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,009
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I'm a little concerned about how Craig will look in another 2 years time..the more i think about it,the more i think a new Bond was needed.

    His aging isn't helped by these three to four year gaps, either.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 3,126
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    noSolaceleft wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    noSolaceleft wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Craig's a fan of Shatterhand. Was a Radio One interview while promoting Spectre. They went through all levels the Fleming shorts and chapters not yet used and his reaction to it was "Now that's not bad, I like that one".

    Yeah, but Craig also is on record for saying that making Blofeld Bonds foster brother was a too good idea to not to make it. So I'd rather would prefer if they didn't ask him about his opinions at all.
    Instead I would suggest the method of Howard Hawks when Bogart refrained from playing a scene in the big sleep the way Hawks imagined. He told Bogart to go in front of the camera and do exactly what he was told otherwise he would beat the shit out of him. And so Bogart did and over decades of watching no one has ever found something to complain about the movie.
    After all they are actors not writers so there opinions should be treated second or third rate priority.

    Craig's a Producer as well now though.

    And we see how greatly the serious has evolved.

    Globally Bond has never been so popular or made so much. Measure of success is at the cash register. May not sit well with guys like yourself hoping the clocks rolled back.

    Including inflation 2 in the top for 4 and 3 in the top 8.

    Highest Grossing Bond Films
    Position Film Year Actor Gross (with inflation)
    1. Skyfall 2012 Daniel Craig $1,108,561,008
    2. Thunderball 1965 Sean Connery $1,014,941,117
    3. Goldfinger 1964 Sean Connery $912,257,512
    4. Spectre 2015 Daniel Craig $880,669,186
    5. Live and Let Die 1973 Roger Moore $825,110,761
    6. You Only Live Twice 1967 Sean Connery $756,544,419
    7. The Spy Who Loved Me 1977 Roger Moore $692,713,752
    8. Casino Royale 2006 Daniel Craig $669,789,482
    9. Moonraker 1979 Roger Moore $655,872,400
    10. Diamonds Are Forever 1971 Sean Connery $648,514,469
    11. Quantum of Solace 2008 Daniel Craig $622,246,378
    12. From Russia with Love 1963 Sean Connery $576,277,964
    13. Die Another Day 2002 Pierce Brosnan $543,639,638
    14. Goldeneye 1995 Pierce Brosnan $529,548,711
    15. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1969 George Lazenby $505,899,782
    16. The World is Not Enough 1999 Pierce Brosnan $491,617,153
    17. For Your Eyes Only 1981 Roger Moore $486,468,881
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies 1997 Pierce Brosnan $478,946,402
    19. The Man with the Golden Gun 1974 Roger Moore $448,249,281
    20. Dr. No 1962 Sean Connery $440,759,072
    21. Octopussy 1983 Roger Moore $426,244,352
    22. The Living Daylights 1987 Timothy Dalton $381,088,866
    23. A View to a Kill 1985 Roger Moore $321,172,633
    24. Licence to Kill 1989 Timothy Dalton $285,157,191


    @SirHilaryBray how much they make just in u.s. and how much was attendance in u.s. ?
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    shamanimal wrote: »
    He's a great actor but if I'm honest, it stretches believability for me that he's supposed to be the same character as the previous Bonds, because he looks so different.

    But he's... not? They make it pretty clear this entire era is disconnected from the classic films.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I'm a little concerned about how Craig will look in another 2 years time..the more i think about it,the more i think a new Bond was needed.

    His aging isn't helped by these three to four year gaps, either.
    Neither is mine.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    @SeanCraig -- yes HGH is human growth hormone, something we naturally secrete in the body while doing heavy lifting (along with testosterone); it's no real secret in Hollywood, men take both testosterone and HGH to bulk up (without having to do what they did in the 80s-- steroids).

    Hugh Jackman is a beast, and he's doing 450 lbs deadlifts with help-- especially at his age.

    It's a quick fix for actors. Get back in the gym and metabolically train, with prescribed doses of HGH and testosterone.

    Everything about DC will get tighter again.

    But, seriously, if he's committed to do another 007 film, then he better commit all the way, and get back in the gym. RM only is watchable in AVTAK because he's Rog and he IS so damn watchable. But, as @bondjames has said many time, and I whole heartedly agree, DC can't execute the charming playboy-- aging or no. He's a rugged animal, and his physicality is key to his execution.

    Get back in the gym Daniel, your vacation is over.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Given that he does appear to be aging fast these days, I think they will advance the timeline quite a bit in the final film (it will be more than 4 years movie time imho). Loganesque, as has been rumoured, but without the same definitive ending (although they may leave it open ended so we don't know if he survives). That will leave his iteration closed out and they will then move forward (or back) to the more standard template.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    Posts: 7,056
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    What's with the marine haircut? Is he preparing for a role or something?

    Skyfall 2
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    mattjoes wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    What's with the marine haircut? Is he preparing for a role or something?

    Skyfall 2
    Called A Deeper Fall Into The Sky.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    Wow, Craig has aged quite a bit since Spectre.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    //how much they make just in u.s. and how much was attendance in u.s. ?//

    U.S., listed by number of tickets sold.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=jamesbond.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Wow, Craig has aged quite a bit since Spectre.
    He really hasn't. Refer to the Colbert interview from two months ago. He looks pretty much identical to his 2015 self.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited April 2018 Posts: 3,157
    bondjames wrote: »
    Given that he does appear to be aging fast these days, I think they will advance the timeline quite a bit in the final film (it will be more than 4 years movie time imho).

    It's not that necessary, considering Skyfall is supposed to take place a few months after Skyfall.

    Anyway, it all depends on the story they're going to tell. If Madeleine comes back, and no one knows if she will, will they say that Bond and her have lived together for 6-7 years? Seems too long for me.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Walecs wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Given that he does appear to be aging fast these days, I think they will advance the timeline quite a bit in the final film (it will be more than 4 years movie time imho).

    It's not that necessary, considering SPECTRE is supposed to take place a few months after SPECTRE.

    Anyway, it all depends on the story they're going to tell. If Madeleine comes back, and no one knows if she will, will they say that Bond and her have lived together for 6-7 years? Seems to long for me.
    It's true, it does depend on the story. I personally don't see Seydoux coming back, but I've been wrong before. Waltz is possible, but they could still bring him back and start the story some time in the future, thereby dispensing with any of the Madeleine scenes.

    It's just that this persistent rumour of a Logan style story (which kicked in about the time the rumours started floating around about Craig returning in April 2017) leads me to conclude that they will advance the timeline to tell the story of an 'older' Bond, rather than start straight after the events of SP, especially after 4 long 'real' years have passed.

    Mr. Craig will be more credible in this scenario as well, given recent photos.
  • shamanimalshamanimal
    Posts: 623
    Minion wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    He's a great actor but if I'm honest, it stretches believability for me that he's supposed to be the same character as the previous Bonds, because he looks so different.

    But he's... not? They make it pretty clear this entire era is disconnected from the classic films.

    But he's still supposed to be the same character.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    I do want them to go the "Blofeld escapes, Madeline dies" route, because now Craig is back they may as well make the best of it and do YOLT.

    But you've got me thinking now @bondjames, do we really need to see that happen? They could start a few years down the line with broken old man Bond already back at MI6, and just hint at what happened (snippets of flashbacks, a photo of Madeline, that sort of thing). Maybe open with him on a mission but he messes up? Since in YOLT he does talk about how the state he's in has been affecting his assignments.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Yes, @thelivingroyale , that is where I think we're headed.

    Why? Well, I viewed CR just this weekend, and realized that they've already done the lovey dovey / grieving thing so well with Craig Bond in that film and QoS, so why run the risk of retreading that poorly. Also, if his 'arc' is meant to be viewed holistically, it doesn't make sense to delve into the same sort of issues again.

    Similarly, I never believed they would redo the OHMSS scenario either (why ruin the memory of that near perfect film)?

    So, the 'old man' Bond makes the most sense to me. Blofeld could still appear.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    Posts: 7,056
    EON will want to continue the Craig/Spectre story, but I think they'll want to shed as much "dead weight" as possible. That's why it makes sense to hint at a break up between Bond and Madeleine without actually showing it-- it's the easiest, soundest way of getting rid of Madeleine. They can't get rid of Blofeld in the same way but he has greater potential as a character than Madeleine. I think this is what they should do and what they'll probably do.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I'm still a firm believer that lighting has much to do with his appearance. These recent photos look terrible, but he looked excellent on Stephen Colbert.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    I am gay. But lately other fellow forummembers sound more gay than I usually do. Especially when it comes down to the looks of men.....or Daniel Craig.
    :-D
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    Posts: 7,056
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I'm still a firm believer that lighting has much to do with his appearance. These recent photos look terrible, but he looked excellent on Stephen Colbert.

    Yes. My understanding is that make up is tailored for the lighting of the event being attended, but sometimes they don't get it totally right, and at any rate, I imagine the conditions in such circumstances --with people looking at the actor from everywhere-- are much less controllable than on a film set, where there are just a few cameras capturing the actor's face, and thus everything can be adjusted to make him look as good as possible. I wouldn't worry about Craig's looks regarding Bond 25.
  • BT3366BT3366
    Posts: 1,926
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I do want them to go the "Blofeld escapes, Madeline dies" route, because now Craig is back they may as well make the best of it and do YOLT.

    But you've got me thinking now @bondjames, do we really need to see that happen? They could start a few years down the line with broken old man Bond already back at MI6, and just hint at what happened (snippets of flashbacks, a photo of Madeline, that sort of thing). Maybe open with him on a mission but he messes up? Since in YOLT he does talk about how the state he's in has been affecting his assignments.

    Sounds too close to Skyfall. I want to see Craig Bond at his best, not broken down again.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Well I was bored and made a Bond 25 teaser trailer. I found a lot of footage that's normally not used. Also some great DB5 shots with engine noises. Check it out!

  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    peter wrote: »
    @SeanCraig -- yes HGH is human growth hormone, something we naturally secrete in the body while doing heavy lifting (along with testosterone); it's no real secret in Hollywood, men take both testosterone and HGH to bulk up (without having to do what they did in the 80s-- steroids).

    Hugh Jackman is a beast, and he's doing 450 lbs deadlifts with help-- especially at his age.

    It's a quick fix for actors. Get back in the gym and metabolically train, with prescribed doses of HGH and testosterone.

    Everything about DC will get tighter again.

    But, seriously, if he's committed to do another 007 film, then he better commit all the way, and get back in the gym. RM only is watchable in AVTAK because he's Rog and he IS so damn watchable. But, as @bondjames has said many time, and I whole heartedly agree, DC can't execute the charming playboy-- aging or no. He's a rugged animal, and his physicality is key to his execution.

    Get back in the gym Daniel, your vacation is over.

    They should make a Bond movie that plays on the fact he's ageing and past his prime. Doh....
  • GetCarterGetCarter
    Posts: 386
    Only two bond films have used bond's age as a theme.

    The first was CR. That movie was sexy, romantic and thrilling.

    The second movie was SF. Only two films after the first (in an era obsessed with continuity) it halted DC's momentum and was a strange choice.

    If they go down this path with B25 it is unlikely to work IMO.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited October 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Totally agree.
  • DennisonDennison
    Posts: 1,031
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I do want them to go the "Blofeld escapes, Madeline dies" route, because now Craig is back they may as well make the best of it and do YOLT.

    But you've got me thinking now @bondjames, do we really need to see that happen? They could start a few years down the line with broken old man Bond already back at MI6, and just hint at what happened (snippets of flashbacks, a photo of Madeline, that sort of thing). Maybe open with him on a mission but he messes up? Since in YOLT he does talk about how the state he's in has been affecting his assignments.

    Sounds like the start of Skyfall - Bond 'messes' up his mission in not retrieving the list, albeit not being his fault having being shot by Miss Moneypenny.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    GetCarter wrote: »
    Only two bond films have used bond's age as a theme.

    The first was CR.
    I don't remember.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    I do want them to go the "Blofeld escapes, Madeline dies" route, because now Craig is back they may as well make the best of it and do YOLT.

    But you've got me thinking now @bondjames, do we really need to see that happen? They could start a few years down the line with broken old man Bond already back at MI6, and just hint at what happened (snippets of flashbacks, a photo of Madeline, that sort of thing). Maybe open with him on a mission but he messes up? Since in YOLT he does talk about how the state he's in has been affecting his assignments.

    I like this idea.
  • ColonelSunColonelSun
    Posts: 1,497
    GetCarter wrote: »
    Only two bond films have used bond's age as a theme.

    The first was CR. That movie was sexy, romantic and thrilling.

    The second movie was SF. Only two films after the first (in an era obsessed with continuity) it halted DC's momentum and was a strange choice.

    If they go down this path with B25 it is unlikely to work IMO.

    They (lightly) touch on Bond's age in NSNA - he's in semi-retirement at the beginning - and retires at the end - which I always felt was a nice and fitting end to Connery's Bond.

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