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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1
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    No no no....no more foreplay bullshit...SF is brilliant.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    --> Steven Soderbergh
    --> Yann Demange
    --> Christopher Nolan, or
    --> David MacKenzie
    I'd be fine with any of the above, but Nolan is zero chance with Craig.

    The fact that he was apparently favouring Villeneuve suggests they have an approach in mind with him. Can Demange or Mackenzie fit into that, or did they come up with some other suggestions during their reported earlier talks with EON (which were happening prior to Craig's commitment)? This is the question.

    There is very little evidence that Soderbergh is in contention.
  • HASEROT wrote: »
    CR and SF are arguably 2 of the better/best films in the franchise.. Those are high water marks tough to reach.. I'd be ok with another SP, stylisticlly and tonally- just cut out all the stupid crap. (and I don't mean gags.. more like useless personal drama, shoehorned double endings)..

    I would be more than happy with a middle road op/ tnd adventure bond film from craig. Of course whatever does end up happening this won't be their goal. They can aspire to greatness/ take risks but not be overly ambitious as to make a pretentious film like sp.
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    @Gustav_Graves One Steven Soderbergh, please! :bz
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I wouldn't mind Soderbergh. He does know how to direct films out of his known style to the mainstream. There are many moments in Haywire that felt like a very genuine Bond film with a serious tone to it.

    That scene, for example, where Gina Carano's character finds out she was double crossed at the stable full of hay with the body of the man she rescued days earlier found dead.

    And with Michael Fassbender's character discussing a deal with the opposition while smoking a cigarette.

    Very Bondian moments. So, Soderbergh gets my vote.
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    Soderbergh would be fine with me for sure !!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Imho, it's not happening chaps. although it's a neat idea.

    One doesn't go from Villeneuve as a confirmed prospect to Soderbergh.

    They have a tone and idea in mind, and this is first and foremost a Craig film.
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    @bondjames The thing about Soderbergh is that he is very versatile and can imitate various styles perfectly (one example: The Good German). I believe he would direct a tremendous Bond film.
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 19,339
    @bondjames The thing about Soderbergh is that he is very versatile and can imitate various styles perfectly (one example: The Good German). I believe he would direct a tremendous Bond film.

    As i do PP...he watches and takes the bits that have worked, and adapts them to his way of thinking.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I don't disagree @PanchitoPistoles, but he is an opinionated and visionary film maker himself. If they do consider him, he will definitely have his own ideas on how to approach his first Bond film. There's no evidence that they have even contemplated him at this point and I don't see him doing B25.

    Interestingly, if Villeneuve doesn't get it, I wonder what the optics will look like for whoever eventually gets the job. We all know now that Denis was the first choice.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If we were going off something like Haywire, I'd absolutely love for Soderbergh to get a chance. I really love his style. @ClarkDevlin's mention of that chateau scene does have a very Bondian feel to it.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I don't disagree @PanchitoPistoles, but he is an opinionated and visionary film maker himself. If they do consider him, he will definitely have his own ideas on how to approach his first Bond film. There's no evidence that they have even contemplated him at this point and I don't see him doing B25.

    Interestingly, if Villeneuve doesn't get it, I wonder what the optics will look like for whoever eventually gets the job. We all know now that Denis was the first choice.

    To be fair though,just because Soderbergh isn't mentioned doesn't mean he is not in the frame .
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    As long as it's not Mendes I'm fine with everyone, at this point. Honestly, I would love for Forster to return, provided the action scenes get a different edit and are not as fast-paced/confusing as the ones in QoS.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Walecs wrote: »
    As long as it's not Mendes I'm fine with everyone, at this point. Honestly, I would love for Forster to return, provided the action scenes get a different edit and are not as fast-paced/confusing as the ones in QoS.

    Agreed.. I love the visuals in QoS, sans awful choices in camerawork and editing during some of the action scenes.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I don't disagree @PanchitoPistoles, but he is an opinionated and visionary film maker himself. If they do consider him, he will definitely have his own ideas on how to approach his first Bond film. There's no evidence that they have even contemplated him at this point and I don't see him doing B25.

    Interestingly, if Villeneuve doesn't get it, I wonder what the optics will look like for whoever eventually gets the job. We all know now that Denis was the first choice.

    To be fair though,just because Soderbergh isn't mentioned doesn't mean he is not in the frame .
    Of course, even though these people seem to have more leaks than the Titanic. I just don't see it given his current trajectory and where Bond is, and where it's likely going for B25.
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    Dune will take up a lot of Villeneuve's time, and I haven't heard much regarding its production lately, so it may not even be until mid-2018 before it would begin, which will keep him out of contention. Though I'd love to be wrong and have Dune complete a while before B25 so he could take over.

    In the same podcast, Villeneuve says he recently got pages back from Dune screenwriter Eric Roth and now it's his (Villeneuve's) turn to go over them.

    He also says he's excited about Dune but doesn't know if the movie will get made.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I had thought Villeneuve said a couple months back that he would prefer doing something else first, giving him more time to think on Dune, but perhaps now he'll be doing it backwards since he now recently got some pages from it.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1

    https://eyeonbond.com/2017/11/09/five-years-later-why-skyfall-might-be-the-best-bond-film/

    :-)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited November 2017 Posts: 15,423
    TripAces wrote: »
    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1

    https://eyeonbond.com/2017/11/09/five-years-later-why-skyfall-might-be-the-best-bond-film/

    :-)
    It's what's called... an opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    TripAces wrote: »
    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1

    https://eyeonbond.com/2017/11/09/five-years-later-why-skyfall-might-be-the-best-bond-film/

    :-)
    It's what's called... an opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.

    Including your own? Fact is, you say there are 20+ more Bond films better than SF, and yet there are NOT 20+ more films that performed better at the BO than SF. In adjusted dollars, there are only two. SF was the highest grossing Bond film since TB. That's saying a lot.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited November 2017 Posts: 15,423
    TripAces wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1

    https://eyeonbond.com/2017/11/09/five-years-later-why-skyfall-might-be-the-best-bond-film/

    :-)
    It's what's called... an opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.

    Including your own? Fact is, you say there are 20+ more Bond films better than SF, and yet there are NOT 20+ more films that performed better at the BO than SF. In adjusted dollars, there are only two. SF was the highest grossing Bond film since TB. That's saying a lot.
    Cough, 50th Anniversary Event, Adele, bunch of other popular names + advertising, Cough.

    Alas, the fact that there are many people out there complaining about the film is also saying a lot.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited November 2017 Posts: 7,021
    bondjames wrote: »
    (Can't believe I've even lowered myself to getting involved in debating this which has to be the most pathetic discussion we've ever had on here. Apologies Wizard fans.)
    Didn't the infamous 'codename' theory discussion make an appearance here for a few pages about a year ago? If so, I think that takes the cake, although this could qualify for seconds.

    Wait a minute, you mean the codename theory isn't true? They are all the same guy?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    (Can't believe I've even lowered myself to getting involved in debating this which has to be the most pathetic discussion we've ever had on here. Apologies Wizard fans.)
    Didn't the infamous 'codename' theory discussion make an appearance here for a few pages about a year ago? If so, I think that takes the cake, although this could qualify for seconds.

    Wait a minute, you mean the codename theory isn't true? They are all the same guy?
    I'm afraid so, including the current short chap who looks nothing like the rest of them. You know, the one who has a jealous brother and....well you get the point.

    You should have seen the discussion here last year on the subject though. It really went off the rails. Twilight Zone.
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    TripAces wrote: »
    @noSolaceleft Sykfall is pretty much as good as a Bond movie can possibly get. NOBODY signes up for a Bond movie expecting a result better than Skyfall.

    oh no, specifically there are 20 bond movies better than skyfall, and spectre is one of them ;)
    +1

    https://eyeonbond.com/2017/11/09/five-years-later-why-skyfall-might-be-the-best-bond-film/

    :-)

    I enjoyed reading this. Not everyone is a fan (this happens with EVERY popular movie, no matter what it is), but I think SF is an ideal modern Bond film. A little emotional, but not too much, a perfect amount of action, great characters, awesome settings and cinematography, decent soundtrack (I like it; not amazing not bad), good title song, etc. CR and SF are the true standout Bond films of the modern era. They accomplish everything they are supposed to and rightfully enjoy classic Bond status.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Guys I can confirm I will be directing.
    Oops. Cats out of the bag.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited November 2017 Posts: 7,021
    bondjames wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    (Can't believe I've even lowered myself to getting involved in debating this which has to be the most pathetic discussion we've ever had on here. Apologies Wizard fans.)
    Didn't the infamous 'codename' theory discussion make an appearance here for a few pages about a year ago? If so, I think that takes the cake, although this could qualify for seconds.

    Wait a minute, you mean the codename theory isn't true? They are all the same guy?
    I'm afraid so, including the current short chap who looks nothing like the rest of them. The one who has a jealous brother and....well you get the point.

    You should have seen the discussion here last year on the subject though. It really went off the rails. Twilight Zone.

    Maybe I will, for a laugh. I remember reading one about Skyfall the other day, in which someone was convinced M was literally Bond's mother, and the film presumably stated this openly and unequivocally.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2017 Posts: 23,883
    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    (Can't believe I've even lowered myself to getting involved in debating this which has to be the most pathetic discussion we've ever had on here. Apologies Wizard fans.)
    Didn't the infamous 'codename' theory discussion make an appearance here for a few pages about a year ago? If so, I think that takes the cake, although this could qualify for seconds.

    Wait a minute, you mean the codename theory isn't true? They are all the same guy?
    I'm afraid so, including the current short chap who looks nothing like the rest of them. The one who has a jealous brother and....well you get the point.

    You should have seen the discussion here last year on the subject though. It really went off the rails. Twilight Zone.

    Maybe I will, for a laugh. I remember reading one about Skyfall the other day, in which someone was convinced M was literally Bond's mother, and the film presumably stated this openly and unequivocally.
    Haha. Well unfortunately I can understand the confusion, given he shed more tears for her than he did for his departed wife.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    bondjames wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    (Can't believe I've even lowered myself to getting involved in debating this which has to be the most pathetic discussion we've ever had on here. Apologies Wizard fans.)
    Didn't the infamous 'codename' theory discussion make an appearance here for a few pages about a year ago? If so, I think that takes the cake, although this could qualify for seconds.

    Wait a minute, you mean the codename theory isn't true? They are all the same guy?
    I'm afraid so, including the current short chap who looks nothing like the rest of them. The one who has a jealous brother and....well you get the point.

    You should have seen the discussion here last year on the subject though. It really went off the rails. Twilight Zone.

    Maybe I will, for a laugh. I remember reading one about Skyfall the other day, in which someone was convinced M was literally Bond's mother, and the film presumably stated this openly and unequivocally.
    Haha. Well unfortunately I can understand the confusion, given he shed more tears for her than he did for his departed wife.

    Peter Hunt rolling in his grave. "Bond doesn't cry!"
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    So Villeneuve has been saying what he's been saying for the past two months. Hopefully we'll know definitively in a couple months.
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