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Inevitable? Why did the mass sense of expectation preceding The Force Awakens not leave to disappointment then?
Well, if Bond 25 will be on par with Skyfall then it WILL fall into Casino Royale critical acclaim.
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/casino-royale
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/skyfall
Actually the opposite is true
It did.
Yes please! Anything along those lines. I would take almost any idea that erases brothergate.
It did not. Compare how viewers generally reacted to TFA to how viewers reacted to TLJ.
Also, what about Q's idiotic computer analysis of the ring which connects everybody. That still exists.
Ah, here we go again. Every time we dig into SP in any depth I get frustrated with how that film turned out. Partially because of the film itself (it had the potential, I think, to be so much better than it was), but also because of the way in which it has painted EON into a corner and made things more difficult for future films.
It does seem that those that liked TLJ are having to make excuses for those that didn't. Personally, I think it's marvellous that you enjoyed TLJ. Good for you. You're a movie studio's dream: someone that is easily pleased by whatever they decide to serve up. Without wanting to sound too cocky, I'm afraid it takes more than simply hearing John Williams musical cues, and watching super-fast spaceships and explosions to satisfy me. For the record, I'm with Mark Hamill on this particular movie. I think it's refreshing to hear an actor talk out against a movie that he's supposed to be promoting. Though I'm sure the Disney fans have already got an excuse ready for why he's dissatisfied with the movie. It's only to be expected.
With regards to Bond 25, I have expectations there too. But I haven't gone so far as pontificate on what that story might be yet. That's not my role, nor my job. But if the story turns out to be a rehash of a previous Bond, or a poorly told story and the acting unsatisfactory, then it's my prerogative to say so.
Incredibly encouraging. His favourites are event, game changers within the film series. His instincts on the sort of Bond film he can craft appear to be trustworthy.
I read a few people suggesting Oberhauser could have pulled an, "I am Spartacus" type stunt. The Blofeld name reveal meant nothing to Bond in SP but if Bond comes across a big bad that uses the name Blofeld again, the name will have meaning and carry a lot more weight assuming the gravity of the plot is juicy enough. Kind of like thecwhite Ra's Al Ghul and "I am Neegan" shtick. I can see this working only if the writing's handled with exceptional finesse.
100% agreed
@bondjames Well, reading your words, especially the part about the car being untraceable --which I admit I'd forgotten--, I think you're right about the car not being a metaphor for "leaving things behind." And you talk about the gadgets, which makes me think that their appearance so late in the film is meant to stand in contrast to Q's gun and radio at the beginning. It's perhaps an acknowledgement that gadgets do have their place in the world of Bond. About the office, it's perhaps meant to be a reaffirmation of those themes, of there being things --old ways-- that need not be left behind. If that's the case, then what Skyfall posits is that yes, the world has changed in some respects --new bad guys, new Q-- but not in others.
Hmm, now I sound like I hold the opposite position. :-/
Long post - sorry didn't read all of that. But okay, whatever you say.
If Blofeld is kept, they could come up with some sort of plot that references the fact that Waltz was trying to protect the real Blofeld because of a dire plan! :) Anyway, I don’t think they’ll do it but they could have a new head of Spectre. It would be a shame to forget about his organization. Have them show up every second or third film.
@mattjoes, our back and forth on the car and the office has made me realize it really can be interpreted in a few different ways. SF is an interesting film that way.
You’re probably right about that especially seeing Waltz isn’t returning. Did Waltz say he wouldn’t return after being asked by Eon, did Eon not want him back or did he just state that he wasn’t interested in returning without any discussion with the producers?
Yeah, I was wondering about that.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!
Still, and most of all, the existence of the Goldfinger DB 5 in the reboot universe is a straight in your face insult of the audiences intellect. You might say it doesn't matter in a movie that is full of those kind of insults, but still I find it very very much annoying. I couldn't almost believe it when I saw it in the cinema.
We can't erase it, but we can make better sense of it. I have said all along that the best way to work around this connection is that it's no coincidence.
What if...
--Bond's adoption by Oberhauser put him on MI6's radar?
--MI6 began courting him early on and recruited him to infiltrate Oberhauser's organization? This would be similar to The Departed.
--This line takes on bigger implications: "Orphans always did make the best recruits" (M, in Skyfall)?
--And this line, too: "I never really had a choice" (Bond, about becoming an assassin)?
--The box of belongings, delivered by Moneypenny, was NOT retrieved from Skyfall; but rather was retrieved from M's office after the explosion?
--M learned that younger Oberhauser was still alive and this left her in a bind: should she let Bond do the job he was recruited to do (infiltrate Spectre), even at the risk of damaging him psychologically? She left a trail of clues for him(video, box of belongings).
All of this would add to the Bond origin story that many would rather be left alone; but EON opened this can of worms, and the above scenario would best clean up the mess.
I'm surprised that they are going down this route as I expected them to carry on the thread of SPECTRE. Then again they may well still do that and Waltz is being deliberately being coy knowing how his supposed twist was the worst kept secret in 2015.
I'm really not sure what is happening I'm still recovering from the reverberations of what SP did, I really like SF but have downgraded it on my last viewing but still think it's much more satisfying than SP is.
That aside I think I'll be much more relieved once Bond is recast and we reset. I really can't see them carrying DC's timeline on.
I just hope DC can redeem himself and go out on a high.
The choice of director will be a good guage of where this is going, be it Denis, Nolan, Yann or Mckenzie?
I'm not mentioning the other option because I certainly hope he does not return. I think it's either of the 4 above or they've kept the actual director so far under the radar we'll all get a shock when it's announced.
That being said I think that is unlikely and the name is out there already.