No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,584
    Casino Royale, amateurish camera angles? I want whatever you are inhaling mate.

    Much of it is the embassy sequence...

    The shot of DC somersaulting and then looking forward. It's awful. The stuff of made-for TV action. And then Campbell somehow thinks a closeup of the siren inside the embassy is necessary. Plus, the closeup of Mollaka's face. Seriously? The entire embassy sequence is awful, with bad staging and bad lighting.

    Also...

    The shot of the Ford, traveling through Nassau. Eeeck. We have a Ford TV commercial, folks.

    The shot of Bond's face, trying to stop the fuel truck on the tarmac. Did Campbell instruct DC to look like he's straining, while sitting on the toilet? What director allows James Bond to look like that? Apparently, this one.

    This isn't a camera angle issue as much as a staging one: but having Bond stumble out of the casino and nearly get hit by a car, that then forces him to twirl around, is a cliched piece of cinema. Just substitute a poisoned Bond for a drunk. We've seen that scene hundreds of times.

    CR has a terrific story and terrific acting. Campbell just had to make sure he didn't screw it up, and in places he practically did. I may be knitpicking (I'm sure I am) because CR is a great film, nonetheless. But let's stop pretending that Campbell is god's gift to filmmaking. He isn't.

    I find it interesting that so many Bond fans are clamoring for a filmmaker (Campbell) and a composer (Arnold) who have done little outside of CR. There's a reason for that.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Dear Barbara,

    I know you are reading this. Here's the deal: If you won't officially make a big Bond 25 related announcement by the 5th of March, 23:59 (UK time), I will BOYCOTT every single non-Bond production by EON from now on. I'm serious. No Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool Blu-Ray, no The Rhythm Section, nothing.

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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    We should all vow to never watch a non bond eon film because eon shouldn’t be messing around with art crap.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 2,115
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    At risk of this sounding silly, but has Film Stars Don't Die In Liverpool actually been released anywhere? I'm living in an area with only a couple cinemas that mainly play mainstream films.
    I was under the impression Film Stars was to have come out last December.

    It had an extremely limited release (four screens) in the U.S. on Dec. 29. Listed at No. 39 in the chart in this link.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2017&wknd=52a&p=.htm

    UPDATE, per Box Office Mojo, its US box office to date is $423,454. Its widest release was 107 screens.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=filmstarsdontdieinliverpool.htm



  • Posts: 12,466
    We should all vow to never watch a non bond eon film because eon shouldn’t be messing around with art crap.

    I’ll join the protest.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I will stop watching the Brosnan films forever in protest.
  • Posts: 12,466
    I will stop watching the Brosnan films forever in protest.

    Surprised you didn’t already have a start on that one!
  • Posts: 16,154
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    At risk of this sounding silly, but has Film Stars Don't Die In Liverpool actually been released anywhere? I'm living in an area with only a couple cinemas that mainly play mainstream films.
    I was under the impression Film Stars was to have come out last December.

    It had an extremely limited release (four screens) in the U.S. on Dec. 29. Listed at No. 39 in the chart in this link.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2017&wknd=52a&p=.htm

    UPDATE, per Box Office Mojo, its US box office to date is $423,454. Its widest release was 107 screens.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=filmstarsdontdieinliverpool.htm



    Wow! Thanks for the info. Based on that I don't imagine non-Bond Eon films will be the bread and butter for the company.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,515
    Stars Don't Die In Liverpool Dutch release date is 8 March 2018 and released by Splendid Film (German company). Last year ''sleepless'' did $1,211,676 in 9 weaks and Moonlight has total boxoffice off $2,372,881.

    More release dates from other countrys:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5711148/releaseinfo?ref_=ttfc_ql_2
  • Posts: 12,466
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Saw that. I wish we could just get something concrete instead of more rumors.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Oof, easily one of the worst artists of today. I can only hope this is mere rumor.
  • Posts: 12,466
    Welp.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Someone call Adele.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Welp.

    My thoughts exactly. My hope was all the secrecy was for a Nolan Bond and not due to a lack of progress.
  • Bentley007 wrote: »

    I'm glad. I think Nolan is great but I'd want him to have free reign like he did with Batman. Write, direct, cast his own Bond. So I'd rather have him for Bond 26.
  • Posts: 9,846
    Bentley007 wrote: »

    I'm glad. I think Nolan is great but I'd want him to have free reign like he did with Batman. Write, direct, cast his own Bond. So I'd rather have him for Bond 26.

    Even if it’s Tom Hardy
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    Some of those quotes are from some time ago.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    This really isn't surprising. As we know, they've gone with Craig again (even waited for him), and so that always logically implied Nolan was not in the cards for this outing. It's regrettable.

    We'll just have to see who they end up with.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,584
    And dare I point out the definitive manner in which Nolan has said no, compared to Villeneuve.
  • The Nolan interview will be available online after it's broadcast at 11:15 am UK time.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rwygm
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited February 2018 Posts: 7,021
    Dear Barbara,

    I know you are reading this. Here's the deal: If you won't officially make a big Bond 25 related announcement by the 5th of March, 23:59 (UK time), I will BOYCOTT every single non-Bond production by EON from now on. I'm serious. No Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool Blu-Ray, no The Rhythm Section, nothing.
    Well, your threat seems to have worked. I have inside information that says EON is holding an emergency meeting right now, discussing "the PanchitoPistoles situation." :))
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    Dear Barbara,

    I know you are reading this. Here's the deal: If you won't officially make a big Bond 25 related announcement by the 5th of March, 23:59 (UK time), I will BOYCOTT every single non-Bond production by EON from now on. I'm serious. No Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool Blu-Ray, no The Rhythm Section, nothing.

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  • Posts: 5,767
    JET007 wrote: »
    Something’s coming. That post has to do with some stuff.

    Hinting at Mendes?
    Hinting that Craig is back as Bond and will feature more horrendous hairdos.

  • edited February 2018 Posts: 5,767
    TripAces wrote: »
    Casino Royale, amateurish camera angles? I want whatever you are inhaling mate.

    Much of it is the embassy sequence...

    The shot of DC somersaulting and then looking forward. It's awful. The stuff of made-for TV action. And then Campbell somehow thinks a closeup of the siren inside the embassy is necessary. Plus, the closeup of Mollaka's face. Seriously? The entire embassy sequence is awful, with bad staging and bad lighting.

    Also...

    The shot of the Ford, traveling through Nassau. Eeeck. We have a Ford TV commercial, folks.

    The shot of Bond's face, trying to stop the fuel truck on the tarmac. Did Campbell instruct DC to look like he's straining, while sitting on the toilet? What director allows James Bond to look like that? Apparently, this one.

    This isn't a camera angle issue as much as a staging one: but having Bond stumble out of the casino and nearly get hit by a car, that then forces him to twirl around, is a cliched piece of cinema. Just substitute a poisoned Bond for a drunk. We've seen that scene hundreds of times.

    CR has a terrific story and terrific acting. Campbell just had to make sure he didn't screw it up, and in places he practically did. I may be knitpicking (I'm sure I am) because CR is a great film, nonetheless. But let's stop pretending that Campbell is god's gift to filmmaking. He isn't.

    I find it interesting that so many Bond fans are clamoring for a filmmaker (Campbell) and a composer (Arnold) who have done little outside of CR. There's a reason for that.
    Campbell´s films have a lot of mediocrity in them, yet the result is something cohesive that makes sense. Mendes for instance did more or less the opposite with his Bond films.


    Apart from that, I must say all those points you point out as being poor in CR I actually quite like. Including the car commercial. Bond should be more like a commercial again. The first part of Kenneth Branagh´s Murder in the Orient Express felt to me like a huge traveling commercial. The Ford commercial in CR was similar in a way. I want more of this in my Bond films.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 4,408
    Christopher Nolan has confirmed that he will not be the director of Bond 25:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/james-bond-directing-christopher-nolan_uk_5a893b2be4b00bc49f450370

    Personally, I think Steve McQueen would be terrific....

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    Also, regarding the discussion concerning Martin Campbell. As a director, he is a bit of a hack. However, he's a great Bond director. He knows that character and the world very well. More accomplished directors have faltered because they haven't understood the character.

    In CR, Campbell expertly combined a tougher more grittier edge with the glamour of Bond. It's a perfectly directed movie in this sense. Remember, the contrast between the opulent Casino scenes and the stairwell fight for instance. Remember those lingering moments of death and brutality? Remember the inspired decision to shoot the opening in black and white and allow the blood to the first colour? Remember those close-ups of Craig looking punished after the brutal kills? Though CR never forgets its a Bond film and still looks and feels elegant and classy.

    Personally, I think the CR script is very good. But Campbell's execution of it from a story and character perspective is outstanding. He's helped massively by a great performance from a game Daniel Craig.

    However, that isn't to say that the actual execution of CR is a little pedestrian at times. I think the cinematography is actually beautiful in CR (especially early on) but can be a little workman at times (especially compared to Roger and Hoyte) and the costumes and the sets have some bad 90s Brosnan hangover to them. But it's a bloody good film.

    CR and GE are probably two of the best directed Bond films. Though, I'll be the first to admit Campbell's other films are pretty awful.

    I think the reason people are turning against the look of Campbell's films, may be that from a craft perspective, Sam Mendes's film were top-tier.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    I love the look of CR; it has a vibrancy that harkens back to the 60’s films.
    With that said, I hate the “Ford Commercial” in Nassau; it’s very heavy handed product placement.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    I always fail to see the comparisons to the 60s films. CR never felt like a callback to the early Bond films to me as some claim. But, it's a stellar film (but not as perfect as others state) which does feel timeless to watch as opposed to some other installments in the series.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,785
    With that Ford Mondeo, it was a laugh out loud moment for me first viewing and ever since.

    And in case I'm not clear: I love it. The way it was presented, then later Bond Is shown improving his lot by upgrading to a DB5. A fun moment among many in the film.
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