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You’re misstating my point That is a single element; look at the broader picture.
If you have one exactly like it, sorry. But seriously, shave if you do.
I agree with this as far as the distributor goes. The delays are MGM usual nonsense and trying to get the best distributor deal... I don't think they're having problems finding takers which means they wouldn't pick someone whose going to call any shots. It's a honeymoon deal for EON and they'll get what they want. Unless MGM screws things up which is possible.
I like '71 a lot and would be cool with Demange getting the gig, but P&W involved leaves me cold. They're good for a set piece idea or two and that's about it. Not to say Demange and team wouldn't totally re-work it. Still, it's a massive production for someone with limited experience, certainly at that level which means he might not get his way on a lot of things.
Boyle on the other hand, is a great choice. But both directors would shake it up a bit, certainly from the last two, so no complaints there. With Boyle's musical thing filming I could see delays with coy statements for months until they're all ready to announce something officially and in grander fashion than just a press release.
Also, I always have to watch that Boyle video. His laugh kills me everytime.
But that is what I did and said - there is still a lot of Flemings Bond left, id he diesnt just use women
My post addressed the single statement made by Daniel Craig, but it clearly is commenting on the broader picture of incrementally chipping away at multiple elements that combined make up a character.
So now Bond no longer smokes, he’s becoming more monogamous ; it’s been implied that he’s an alcoholic and possibly a drug addict who has deep psychological issues.
Literally Fleming's Bond.
To be fair, judging from the amount of alcohol and other things he consumes in the novels he probably was just that (apart from the psychological issues). At least it is much much closer to Fleming than anything Craig has brought to the table.
Possibly, but not the Bond of the cinema. Some of those elements are their but not in the forefront.
I'm glad that the film makers have chosen to experiment with a more 'real' portrayal with this reboot iteration. My only hope is they close it out soon and move back to the larger than life version with the next chap. This has been good while it's lasted, but boy am I longing for it to be over and done with.
A big +1 to this!
Its not Bond who has changed, but the times and expectations. If you guys font see that, your are sad dinosaurs
+2
The point is to find a balance and not to continue deconstructing the character.
...with this actor.
Bottom line is they tried it, but for me it was amateur hour all round, and this is not a script issue.
Furthermore, you can't bring back the Bond of old and intersperse him with family issues. It doesn't work. The old screen Bond is a cipher of sorts. We know a little but not enough. That's what made him interesting. Once you delve into his personal life and his past, that mystique is lost. That's why OHMSS works - because it's a one off with a one off actor. I've always maintained that the actors who do these sort of 'lover' films need to be one offs.
...and director, and writers
To be fair, Fleming deconstructed him too, especially in the later novels (and also via the shifting perspectives in FRWL and TSWLM).
SF was much stronger in this regard. Compare "You know the whole story" to Bond's nonplussed reaction to Blofeld in SP.
and audience
I think it did, but even if it didn't, that doesn't mean it can't work, only that it didn't work this time, under these circumstances.
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Bond being a womanizer is an essential part of the Bond films. He is character in a high-risk profession in which he may not live to see the next day, so it makes perfect sense that he takes every opportunity he can get to indulge in life's pleasures: hotels, good food, alcohol and relationships with the opposite sex. But more importantly, the womanizing is part of the Bondian fantasy that makes these films appealing. And there's nothing wrong with having plenty of relationships, as long as the other person is treated with respect and fairly, so it's a legitimate fantasy. Bond may have plenty of fleeting relationships, but in the films he generally doesn't treat his female companions in any degrading way. And he is not misogynistic, as Craig has claimed. In a few of occasions, he has behaved rudely toward women, but that's part of his profession, and not directly related to the fact they're women. Or is he a misandrist because he beats up the those men in the DAF PTS?
I'll tell you a secret: Bond was created by Fleming.
Precisely! The issues with SP stem not from its return to formula, but rather the lousy plot, weak love story, the anti-climax, step-brother fiasco, and the overall lackluster end product that EON vomited onto the screen.
I appreciate that snarky enlightenment, but to the general public, who make up the vast majority of people who go see the films, Bond is a amalgamation of many influences, not the least of which are the actors, screenwriters and directors who have contributed over the past fifty plus years.
But is Bond really a womanizer? I actually think that his behavior has always been a bit overblown, a sort of myth. There are only a few instances in which Bond attempts to seduce a female just for the hell of it. Most of his sexual conquests are job-related. And in many of those instances, it is the female who is the aggressor. In many others, such as the PTS in TLD and with Plenty O'Toole in DAF, Bond is the one preyed upon, not the other way around. In fact, it is this fantasy that is being played out: a man so attractive and charming that in many respects, he doesn't have to do much to have a woman falling all over him.
Let's not forget, Bond is an agent and tasked to use whatever is necessary to get the job done. If this means using sex, then so be it -- Xena Onatopp and Fiona Volpe are perfect examples, from the other side of the equation.
Stil don't see what's wrong with it haha! Just a beard, no?