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  • barryt007barryt007
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    BS. Your dreaming if you think Barbara is gonna let DC go.
    Stranger things have happened.

    Agreed...Craig isnt ageing well,and another 2-3 years i think he is putting all he has done at risk..it will be stunt doubles etc and he wouldnt want that.

    His story arc is finished.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Wishful thinking:

    I couldn't find a thread about Things You Want To See In A Bond Film (note: Not things to return from old films, or never wanting to see something, separate threads), so I'll post this one here.

    I do truly wish, whether it's 'Bond 25' or a future installment in the series, the filmmakers feature the song "La Vie En Rose" derived from the novels. It's one of the most important keys in the literary universe of the Bond franchise that hasn't made its way to the films yet.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    BS. Your dreaming if you think Barbara is gonna let DC go.
    Stranger things have happened.
    Like?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 2017 Posts: 15,423
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    BS. Your dreaming if you think Barbara is gonna let DC go.
    Stranger things have happened.
    Like?
    History. There's plenty of them when you look into it.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited March 2017 Posts: 13,807
    To some folk the stranger thing would be Craig coming back.

    To me at this point in time Craig coming back is pretty much a surety.
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 2017 Posts: 15,423
    I'm not saying Craig is not coming back. Right now, he is James Bond and there's no evidence that tells us otherwise. All I'm agreeing to is the possibility of Craig retiring from the role. And surely he won't be playing Bond up until he pushes 60. For all we know, there might not be another Bond film for an indefinite amount of time. Happened with that six-year gap, didn't it?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Well, this is a different world for how actors like Cruise, Stallone, Schwarzenneger, and Ford hold up. Hell, look at Patrick Stewart and Timothy Dalton.

    But I agree it goes back to circumstance and happenstance. And SPECTRE would be unusually fine closure as compared to how the other actors finished.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    But apparantly SP was a closing film for Craig,it was discussed between Mendes and Craig,from what i have heard on here.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Well, this is a different world for how actors like Cruise, Stallone, Schwarzenneger, and Ford hold up. Hell, look at Patrick Stewart and Timothy Dalton.
    Yes, but Bond is different. Nobody is going to want to see a Bond who looks way too old for a character who's supposed to be very agile and definitely not grandfather-like. Take a look at the casual fans of the Bond films taking a stance on A View To A Kill as they dismiss it mainly because of how Moore looked in the film. Craig is starting to show his age and let's face it, he's not Tom Cruise nor Jason Statham. He doesn't care much about the physicality and has already experienced physical damages during his tenure as Bond. He won't be going 55 and still remain in the role. Not with the given odds. He doesn't care much about the money, either, as he wants to be an actor's actor rather than just a celebrity in a mainstream movie. He's a thespian, much like Dalton.

    If he says he's finished with the role, then his word is his bond. If he says he's coming back, he's coming back.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    jamesdut wrote: »
    Why 2019 could be a good year for bond 25. Just a thought! Over the whole 50 years plus there have been two occasions when we have had to wait 4 years for a new bond film. 2006 for Casino Royale and 2012 for Skyfall. Both great films. So maybe another four years wait could give us another special film!

    2019 is also the 50th anniversary of On Her Majesty's Secret Service
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    But apparantly SP was a closing film for Craig,it was discussed between Mendes and Craig,from what i have heard on here.

    That's your first mistake, my friend!
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Well, this is a different world for how actors like Cruise, Stallone, Schwarzenneger, and Ford hold up. Hell, look at Patrick Stewart and Timothy Dalton.
    Yes, but Bond is different. Nobody is going to want to see a Bond who looks way too old for a character who's supposed to be very agile and definitely not grandfather-like. Take a look at the casual fans of the Bond films taking a stance on A View To A Kill as they dismiss it mainly because of how Moore looked in the film. Craig is starting to show his age and let's face it, he's not Tom Cruise nor Jason Statham. He doesn't care much about the physicality and has already experienced physical damages during his tenure as Bond. He won't be going 55 and still remain in the role. Not with the given odds. He doesn't care much about the money, either, as he wants to be an actor's actor rather than just a celebrity in a mainstream movie. He's a thespian, much like Dalton.

    If he says he's finished with the role, then his word is his bond. If he says he's coming back, he's coming back.

    Dan will definitely not force it if he's not up to it, that's the best thing about him. We wouldn't see him AVTAK himself into a geriatric Bond film. He's commitment minded, and if he can't give it his all he won't bother. I think he's aging as a man his age would, however; he's nearly 50 for Christ's sake and can't look wrinkle-free. And even still he's able to do the kind of action no other Bond would've or could've done, and shows his resilience and acuity for stunt work no matter what the demand is. If Tom Cruise is already mid 50s and can do this sort of thing, Dan will have no problem keeping up.

    I just don't see him quitting now, judging from the "to be continued" nature of his SP comments and how he acts in general about the job (very cheerily).
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    If we dont hear anything by summer/fall of 2018 Craig is out IMO. if the next one isnt out by 2019 he is definitly out.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    As much as it pains me to say it, I feel he's out too. And I'm probably the one who wants him to continue the most. However, the more time that goes by without news makes me think he's done. I've tried to remain optimistic, especially with the subtle hints from David Oyelowo & Naomie Harris, etc. But at this point it's looking rather bleak. I hope everyday I'm wrong, and that he makes one more.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    If it's 2019, Craig is out. That has always been my opinion.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    As much as it pains me to say it, I feel he's out too. And I'm probably the one who wants him to continue the most. However, the more time that goes by without news makes me think he's done. I've tried to remain optimistic, especially with the subtle hints from David Oyelowo & Naomie Harris, etc. But at this point it's looking rather bleak. I hope everyday I'm wrong, and that he makes one more.
    Rest easy, chap.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think he has a three to five year window. As someone who has been involved in the field of fitness for thirty years, trust me, from the neck down Daniel could play the part for another 10 t0 15 years. He keeps himself in shape and knows how to crank it up even more as Bond. Some point to his injury(ies) during the making of SPECTRE as a sigh that he's too old for the physical side of the role; the fact is injuries happen at any age.

    Now how he ages from the neck up is a different story; in recent pictures he looks outstanding, but obviously the longer between productions the older he will look.
    In short, Craig will be physically up to the task of playing 007 for the next decade and beyond.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't take the injury as a serious sign against Dan's return in Bond 25 either. He's injured on every film, the major ones being his shoulder in QoS and the knee in SP. But he's tough, he gets through it every time and delivers. Without his ability and determination to continue shooting SP, we wouldn't have gotten it in 2015. He really showed his commitment, even through the pain. It's a shame that some of the action had to seemingly be tweaked to work with the injury, as I wanted more combat, but that's understandable considering how he had to nurse the wound.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited March 2017 Posts: 1,756
    talos7 wrote: »
    I think he has a three to five year window. As someone who has been involved in the field of fitness for thirty years, trust me, from the neck down Daniel could play the part for another 10 t0 15 years. He keeps himself in shape and knows how to crank it up even more as Bond. Some point to his injury(ies) during the making of SPECTRE as a sigh that he's too old for the physical side of the role; the fact is injuries happen at any age.

    Now how he ages from the neck up is a different story; in recent pictures he looks outstanding, but obviously the longer between productions the older he will look.
    In short, Craig will be physically up to the task of playing 007 for the next decade and beyond.

    Craig stopped looking the part in SP, imo. The lighting has to be perfect in order to get him to get his CR look (Donna Lucia's residence).
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    He also looks good I warmer lighting like that featured in the L'Américain sequence. Cool lighting in a cold environment was not kind to Rog In FYEO.
    I've said previously, he has to be photographed properly and frequently he looks better outside of Bond. I'm afraid this is veering off topic. :D
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    As much as it pains me to say it, I feel he's out too. And I'm probably the one who wants him to continue the most. However, the more time that goes by without news makes me think he's done. I've tried to remain optimistic, especially with the subtle hints from David Oyelowo & Naomie Harris, etc. But at this point it's looking rather bleak. I hope everyday I'm wrong, and that he makes one more.
    Rest easy, chap.

    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I'm trying to! Wish I had as much faith as you.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    As much as it pains me to say it, I feel he's out too. And I'm probably the one who wants him to continue the most. However, the more time that goes by without news makes me think he's done. I've tried to remain optimistic, especially with the subtle hints from David Oyelowo & Naomie Harris, etc. But at this point it's looking rather bleak. I hope everyday I'm wrong, and that he makes one more.
    Rest easy, chap.

    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I'm trying to! Wish I had as much faith as you.

    I think we'll both be happy with the end result. All my faith is in Daniel.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    If EON and DC get too hung up about this tediois story arc then clearly that becomes an issue. However, there is nothing in the history of the series that really requires B25 to be a direct continuation of SP. Like many others I would much prefer that they kept Dan and treated it as a stand alone
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 2017 Posts: 8,399
    Getafix wrote: »
    If EON and DC get too hung up about this tediois story arc then clearly that becomes an issue. However, there is nothing in the history of the series that really requires B25 to be a direct continuation of SP. Like many others I would much prefer that they kept Dan and treated it as a stand alone

    That won't happen. Either they are committed to the timeline or they aren't, in which case Craig leaves. Don't think he would be interested in returning for a "throw away" adventure.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    If EON and DC get too hung up about this tediois story arc then clearly that becomes an issue. However, there is nothing in the history of the series that really requires B25 to be a direct continuation of SP. Like many others I would much prefer that they kept Dan and treated it as a stand alone

    That won't happen. Either they are committed to the timeline or they aren't, in which case Craig leaves. Don't think he would be interested in returning for a "throw away" adventure.
    Agreed. If it's Craig, it's a continuation. No two ways about it. I will add that Craig means 2018. We will not see a continuation story in 2019 imho.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Bond 25 will be stepping into wider (and wilder) territories methinks. :))
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    This might spell trouble http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-writers-guild-negotiations-20170325-story.html
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Good thing they waited more than a year to get momentum going on B25! Just in time for a strike delay!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    At least it didn't happen during the production of 'Bond 25'. So as long it stays "in development" until these matters are settled (as well as the distribution deal), we won't have another mess (even though I like the film for what it is) like Quantum of Solace that failed to live up to the colourfulness of Casino Royale in comparison as a decent film.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Oh my lord. This just gets better & better...
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    On the positive side, this may rush up pre-production to finish the script.
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