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Plenty. Lack of a strong antagonist/protagonist for once. Lack of character development. Complete waste of the actor's (Hardy, Branagh) talents. This is the first Nolan movie where all the dialogue heard in the movie can fit in just a couple of pages.
Surely testament to Nolan's pulling power as there's zero yank representation in Dunkirk. How times have changed since Bridge on the River Kwai when they had to create an American character from scratch that didn't exist in the book just so it stood a chance of getting an audience stateside.
If Nolan can get north of 600m with this, a grim realistic war picture (hardly a popular genre) and no American characters at all, then if you throw Bond into the Nolan machine and we have to be talking all time high box office that blows TB and SF out of the water.
The only reason I can conceive that EON would hesitate is that they realise Nolan needs to start from scratch with a new Bond and Babs is torn between this and going for one more film with her darling Dan.
But the clamour for Nolan is starting to get impossible to ignore, almost to the point it's worth letting DC go to get him onboard.
His got nominated for another Oscar last year. He's doing fine. Don't know about him and Nolan but it's possible that Nolan just hasn't had a role for him in his last couple of films or they both felt that they wanted to branch out a bit after Batman.
Regarding Daniel Craig: He is a very good actor. Quite versatile. However, since he's become Bond his acting output has been dismal. He has released nothing in the six years since TGWTDT except for two Bond films and two New York theatre runs (one of which was limited and very difficult to get tickets to - I tried). I hope his output increases due to the recognition and buzz he seems to be getting post-Logan Lucky.
Regarding Craig as Bond, there's no question that he is magnetic in the role and probably the most credible as a hardened assassin among the six. However, I'm more looking forward to a new man in the part than Craig returning. I'm also looking forward to a new creative vision for the character and the franchise (even if it means delaying the next release for a few more years yet). So recent news of his possible return is a bit anticlimactic to me and actually a bit off-putting, particularly if it means a continuation to the interconnected SP bunk. We have to remember that it is Craig who brought Mendes in and insisted on him coming back for a 2nd film. People have blamed Mendes for all the melodrama in the recent films, but one must remember that Craig is just as involved in the creative aspects as Sam. The only film where he had limited involvement was the first one, and that is by far the best of his run. He will only have more to do behind the scenes in any future film, and I'm not sure I want that.
Also, people shouldn't mention Mendes in the same breath as Nolan. They are both directors. That's about where it stops. Nolan is in a different league when it comes to crafting blockbusters. Mendes is art house. Nolan is not. For those who have a problem with his action scenes, go and watch the chase and truck flip in TDK and then get back to me.
I read speculation somewhere that EON may not want to release another Bond film in the same year as an MI release. I've thought about it, and I think I agree. 2019 is when this one is coming out, imho.
Not! Even! Close!
Yeah, sure! Because the very much loved Moore and Brosnan were constantly topless posing throughout their tenure. You are really phenomenal. You're even willing to rather undercut your own gender, then to accept that your taste my be the one of a minority. Which in itself is absolutely OK, don't get me wrong.
And compared to SF I would take each of them gladly!
Why do you want to kill the franchise?
He was also in Terry George's last film alongside Oscar Isaac entitled The Promise, set during the Armenian genocide.
Now look hear. Whatever you do, don't mention the WAR.
You see, things could get a little Nazi, sorry I mean Nasty......
The same goes for the Bane/Bat fight in TDKR. People go on about Hinx/Bond, and that may have been more visceral, but the Bat fight was more gripping to me. There was consequence and significance to it. An overconfident man being physically broken by an opponent he underestimated despite warnings. "Victory has defeated you".
That's testament to the director.
I really love that scene. It's so intense and dripping with atmosphere. Every punch seems like it hurts. People criticise the fight coreography in those films and it is a bit stagey but I completely get what they were going for. It's a realistic Batman and a realistic Batman wouldn't fly around doing wire fu esque stuff like in the Arkham games. He's covered in armour. I liked the boxer/brawler angle they went for. And even though the coreography isn't brilliant the dialogue and atmosphere more than makes up for it. The lack of music and great sound design do wonders to, Bane genuinely comes across as terrifying. I was taken back to how I felt watching GF as a kid, when the sound of Oddjob's footsteps running down to get Bond in the vault put me on edge.
The whole scene is just brilliantly done imo, and that sort of thing is an example of why as much as I loved Nolan's films, the new ones don't appeal to me in the slightest. I saw the trailer for Batman vs Superman and that was more than enough. Zipping around dodging CGI explosions in a CGI looking landscape with there being no sense of atmosphere, just mindless destruction in the background (same as Man Of Steel, which I did see and which wasn't my cup of tea at all). Just doesn't compare at all to Nolan's version imo. I am excited for the next one though because the guy who made the last two (brilliant) Planet Of The Apes movies is directing.
This is not the 20th century anymore. What will kill the franchise is stream of bland entries such as TND and TWINE directed by workman directors.
I agree, but what do you think about Nolan directing Bond 25?
A string of SF will kill the franchise just as quickly as a string of TND/DAD/DAF/AVTAK. That's what you need to understand. If you are asking for quality Bond films, that's one thing, but to ask for 'more SF' is just as effective to kill the franchise as making multiple DAD in succession. Any Bond outing, be it a bottom one like DAD or a top one like CR, will have the same end result if you do a stream of entries of either of them. The Bond franchise's biggest reason to have survived 55+ years isn't going from a DAD to a CR, or a TMWTGG to a TSWLM, or a QOS to a SF; but that it never stagnates in a certain style.
However I've enjoyed enough of Nolan's films to still want to see him direct Bond. Visually his films are never less than stunning and we'd get a Zimmer score. I have little faith in EON's judgment so would wholeheartedly support a decision to get Nolan onboard to launch a new Bond and perhaps do a trilogy.
Nolan is not going anywhere though and is still 'young' so I'm fine with Craig doing one more. Preferably not another Mendes though.
For what it's worth, "I'm just a professional doing a job" ≠ "I don't care about the job."
Yeah, but they're both famous.
I want him to direct it as long as it's the first movie of the next era, with a new actor. The only way a Christopher Nolan Bond film can truly succeed is to let him write the script, let him do the second unit shooting like he usually does and let him take part in the selection of the new Bond. In other words, let him direct the most director driven Bond movie ever. What I am hoping is that Skyfall was the beta test for Nolan's Bond, in terms of giving more power to the director.
No one is talking about quality, or how generic/original they are. No matter how good films like CR or SF are, making a string of outings like these is as certain a franchise killer, than a string of TND or TWINE. You can't have 4, 5 or whatever amount of successive outings where Bond and the main Bond girl fall in love, Bond quits his job and the Bond girl end ups being killed. Just like you can't make x amount of successive films where M has a deep personal connection to the villain who fakes being captured by MI6 only to escape and M ends up getting killed in the climax. In the same way, making endless films with WW3-stopping plots will drive the franchise intro the ground, or endless films where a close ally of Bond ends up being a traitor and the main villain.
That's what you can't seem to understand. SF was made in 2012, so EON can't keep making more films like SF otherwise the franchise will get ruined just the same if they'd have continued making more DAD's since 2002. Bond films should maintain a high quality, but they also must remain fresh. Making more SF defeats that purpose so it must not happen.
I agree on Reeves as well. I look forward to seeing what he can do with The Batman based on his work on the Apes films, although this iteration of Batman is already damaged goods to me on account of the cartoonish BvS, SS & upcoming JL.
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Not quite. Not even close. I'm pretty sure if you asked a few people down the street who Sam Mendes is they wouldn't have a clue. Most people who like blockbuster films know who Christopher Nolan is. Mendes remains an art house guy. I've not seen any of his films outside of the two Bonds, but have seen nearly all of Nolan's.
I wholeheartedly agree.
What you say is very true but let's give Nolan a bit of credit that he's capable of coming up with something original rather than just remaking SF.
Of course, Nolan is fine, I was only commenting on Panchito wanting more SF.
I don't have a problem conceptually with action driven entries that stay off the melodramatic sauce. In fact I contend that we are in need of that after the last 10 years. However, they have to be executed properly, and that's where the 90's entries fell flat. If EON want to make a Cubby style 'light' film in the future they'd better get a director who knows what he's doing. During Bab's tenure, the only man who's proven he can do it so far is Martin Campbell.