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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    I disagree wholeheartedly. The Brosnan titles, the non-Fleming ones were fascinating enough. I don't see how it is lazy and in any way pathetic. They're exactly how a Bond title should be in my honest opinion. Poetic depth in a three or four word title is precisely what I'm looking for in a Bond title.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    edited August 2017 Posts: 6,844
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I don't understand why a title need be creative. Apt and Flemingesque are what I look for.

    The title "Spectre" came from Fleming, but it still felt uninspired as the title of the 24th James Bond film. I couldn't see, for instance, Fleming titling his next JB novel after Golden Gun "Spectre."
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    bondjames wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.

    I suppose it could be worse...it could be called "Ernst". Actually more likely "James".
    I really abhor the trend of lazy titles these past few years. I'm probably missing out on some good films because the titles have turned me away. I never did see "Jason Bourne" or 'Logan".
    I didn't really mind the title "Spectre", but it did seem a bit uninspired.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2017 Posts: 23,883
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.

    I suppose it could be worse...it could be called "Ernst". Actually more likely "James".
    I really abhor the trend of lazy titles these past few years. I'm probably missing out on some good films because the titles have turned me away. I never did see "Jason Bourne" or 'Logan".
    I didn't really mind the title "Spectre", but it did seem a bit uninspired.
    At least we've not had the following yet (I guess we'll have to wait for the reboots for this):

    "OO7"
    "Bond"
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    bondjames wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.

    I suppose it could be worse...it could be called "Ernst". Actually more likely "James".
    I really abhor the trend of lazy titles these past few years. I'm probably missing out on some good films because the titles have turned me away. I never did see "Jason Bourne" or 'Logan".
    I didn't really mind the title "Spectre", but it did seem a bit uninspired.
    At least we've not had the following yet (I guess we'll have to wait for the reboots for this):

    "OO7"
    "Bond"

    Yes. I'd probably bet my Blu-ray of OHMSS that if Eon actually were to sell Bond, the rights could go to any handful of studios that would find "007" or "Bond" acceptable titles. Then we probably would get a film with such an awful title.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Activision should be sued then, because the Italian backcover for 007 Legends stated that Dr. No was included, when it actually wasn't.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited August 2017 Posts: 13,807
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    The title "Spectre" came from Fleming, but it still felt uninspired as the title of the 24th James Bond film. I couldn't see, for instance, Fleming titling his next JB novel after Golden Gun "Spectre."
    Not Spectre. Spectreville! [Emphasis mine.]
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,125
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Lots of speculation here. Nice. So let me try to understand this. They spent a lot of money requiring the rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE, made a movie about SPECTRE where Blofeld survives... and then suddenly Bond 25 is speculated to take an entirely different path? Shatterhand? Yet another crime syndicate? Hardly! Or am I missing something here.

    They could simply use Spectre to fill the role of The Union and Shatterhand being a pseudonym/nickname of Blofeld it would make sense.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    This forums alone has been suggesting that title for some time. So, I wouldn't be surprised if it was lifted from here and strapped onto a fake news report.

    Do we really have that much influence? My personal bet would have been The Hildebrand Rarity. But I'd be happy with Shatterhand.
    Where do you think some writers these days get their film/book ideas? Anything available on the internet they get "inspired by" or actually steal from. And MI6 Community is the most popular James Bond forums site, so of course that's the first place they'd look.

    So if anyone complains about the title of QOS: that was my idea. Or at least I was one of those who wanted the title to be used
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    The title "Spectre" came from Fleming, but it still felt uninspired as the title of the 24th James Bond film. I couldn't see, for instance, Fleming titling his next JB novel after Golden Gun "Spectre."
    Not Spectre. Spectreville! [Emphasis mine.]

    A remake of FRWL... "Spektor"!!!
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited August 2017 Posts: 17,757
    A one-word title really has to be good to work, and not feel lazy. Skyfall felt a bit "meh" to me, and Spectre felt uninspired. Still, both titles were very relevant, so I can understand why they went with them.

    Personally, I love the multi-word titles.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,117
    Walecs wrote: »
    Activision should be sued then, because the Italian backcover for 007 Legends stated that Dr. No was included, when it actually wasn't.

    The people who made 007 Legends should be publicly flogged. Not having Dr No in the game when they wrote about him on the back was the least of their crimes against humanity.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    If 007 Legends is all the source of abomination, then so should be GoldenEye 007: Reloaded and its Wii counterpart since they were the same game only with different levels, story and characters.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I disagree wholeheartedly. The Brosnan titles, the non-Fleming ones were fascinating enough. I don't see how it is lazy and in any way pathetic. They're exactly how a Bond title should be in my honest opinion. Poetic depth in a three or four word title is precisely what I'm looking for in a Bond title.

    I agree with this. For a change, I say we need our next Bond title to be a sentence, not a phrase.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Fleming made the best titles for James bond I mean just think about it, they can't be touched by any original film title or non fleming novel title
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Fleming made the best titles for James bond I mean just think about it, they can't be touched by any original film title or non fleming novel title
    They are legendary and quite iconic. Agreed.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    The title "Spectre" came from Fleming, but it still felt uninspired as the title of the 24th James Bond film. I couldn't see, for instance, Fleming titling his next JB novel after Golden Gun "Spectre."
    Not Spectre. Spectreville! [Emphasis mine.]

    I'd love to see the plot to match the title! I do hope cowgirl costumes and football boots will be involved!

    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.

    I suppose it could be worse...it could be called "Ernst". Actually more likely "James".
    I really abhor the trend of lazy titles these past few years. I'm probably missing out on some good films because the titles have turned me away. I never did see "Jason Bourne" or 'Logan".
    I didn't really mind the title "Spectre", but it did seem a bit uninspired.
    At least we've not had the following yet (I guess we'll have to wait for the reboots for this):

    "OO7"
    "Bond"

    I'd probably bet my Blu-ray of OHMSS that...

    Don't even joke.

    bondjames wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero, I am actually dreading the possibility of Blofeld as the title for B25. It's admittedly more unlikely now thanks to Waltz's nondescript performance, but still remains a concern.

    I was for awhile as well. But I'm more and more confident neither Mendes nor Waltz will return. Blofeld will, for sure, but once the series moves in a new direction, I think (hope) we'll have less fear for a film titled "Blofeld."
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,807
    Minion wrote: »
    A remake of FRWL... "Spektor"!!!
    Wow--a seven-letter S-word.
    I LOVE IT!
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    I've always found Spectre to be a lazy title too. And I've never thought the non Fleming Brosnan era titles were that bad at all really. Tomorrow Never Dies I don't mind but Tomorrow Never Lies would have been so much better. Die Another Day I actually like and I enjoyed how they worked it into the film.

    I still think Quantum Of Solace is the worst title by a wide margin. It doesn't sound sexy or dangerous or cool. It sounds weird and pretentious. It's Fleming for the sake of it imo. And the filmmakers didn't even have the balls to commit to it so they had to add a literal meaning at the last minute that made the SP retcon worse: imagine if instead of the last minute hamfisted "I told you everything you wanted to know about Quantum", the mysterious organisation stayed unnamed. Then we'd have no confusion. They could have easily just been Spectre. If they had to use a Fleming title for the film I would have rather Property of a Lady. That would've fit. I don't really like that one either but it's better than QoS.

    Imo, the only decent Fleming title left is Risico. Outside of that they should leave it. I really really hope the little nod in SP means we'll never get a Bond film called The Hilderbrand Rarity. Chapter titles and phrases are fair game though. Shatterhand would make a brilliant title and I'm sure they will use it eventually.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited August 2017 Posts: 1,756
    Risico is literally just risk.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,551
    On the topic of chapter titles, maybe they'll use "Blood and Thunder".
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    On the topic of chapter titles, maybe they'll use "Blood and Thunder".

    That would be a great one.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited August 2017 Posts: 7,551
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  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
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    I don't know about that as a title.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,807
    An obvious thing to take on for titles is a foreign language name or phrase, the short story "Risico" is one example.
    Another is the Casino Royale chapter title Rouge Et Noir.
    Though that one would attract the usual complaint that "Bond has gone rouge again".
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited August 2017 Posts: 7,551
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Risico is literally just risk.

    Daniel Craig is Ian Fleming's James Bond in "The Pizniss of Much Risico" :P
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
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    I don't know about that as a title.

    Trying to think outside the box here!
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Deleted: not working on my phone

    I don't know about that as a title.

    Trying to think outside the box here!

    How about Error 007: Blofeld not found :D
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited August 2017 Posts: 3,126
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Deleted: not working on my phone

    I don't know about that as a title.

    Trying to think outside the box here!

    How about Error 007: Blofeld not found :D

    Eh hem Blofeld here ;)
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    ;)
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Deleted: not working on my phone

    I don't know about that as a title.

    Trying to think outside the box here!

    How about Error 007: Blofeld not found :D

    Eh hem Blofeld here ;)

    An error has occurred while loading this Blofeld. Reload?
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