No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 1,165
    I might as well start saving for my Royal Albert Hall premiere ticket. How much were they going for again during Spectre? £1k?
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    I think Colbert was offered an exclusive, they probably didn't know what way that would go but were told that DC would appear and announce his intentions on the show.

    Either way for them it's publicity even if DC said no I'm out and I wish the next guy the best of luck and I'm sure he'll be great, whatever went down it's still all over the internet and that clip would be getting replayed over and over again giving Colbert plenty of attention.

    Anyway it's confirmed now, I think they need to finish what they started, even as someone that despises SPECTRE (and I really do) I think it's best they pick where they left off, with having everything all tied together in SPECTRE and having Ernst under lock and key I think it's very unlikely they'll just ignore all that and Craig will go out on a standalone.

    The fact Craig says he wants to go out on a high says to me he wasn't happy with SPECTRE, so I think that pretty much guarantees that Sam won't be back. I think things broke down between the 2 of them during the filming and there is some truth to that article about them not getting on unlike when they filmed Skyfall.

    Craig for me showed nowhere the enthusiasm for SP as he did SF, he was positively beaming when he promoted SF and him and Mendes together seemed natural and like they enjoyed each others company, somewhat different to the two of them promoting SP.


    I think Waltz will be back and likely Seydoux as well as possibly Bautista. The MI6 gang (hopefully more restrained). Whether they make a big deal of Swann or not who knows?
    It might be as some say there relationship came to an end and Seydoux won't be a part of Bond 25.

    As for the director, Soderbergh would be great though I think it's more likely to be Yann or possibly Mackenzie. Villenueve is more high profile especially having directed Bladerunner 2049.

    Also he's attached to a new version of Dune, I don't see him directing an outgoing Craig, if he does direct a Bond he'll likely do it with the next guy.

    As for scoring, that would depend on the director, I think if Soderbergh was tapped to helm Bond 25 he's less likely to want Arnold and likely Holmes would be his choice.

    Although if it is Demange or Mackenzie I see Arnold likely back again but we'll see.

    The wait starts now, we are over 2 years away from the release. I just hope they get their ducks in a row more efficiently and confidently than last time.

    P&W will no doubt not be providing the shooting script and as normal their treatment will be passed onto a more seasoned writer to give the bones some meat, no idea who that will be but I'm sure we won't get another Logan like situation again. BB & MGW will have likely learnt their lesson there.

    Anyway I will be trying to temper my expectations as I got burned on the last one but I'm sure 2 years from now when a teaser will have been released and the hype will be in full swing I'll likely have got caught up in it all once again.

  • Posts: 1,165
    I might as well start saving for my Royal Albert Hall premiere ticket. How much were they going for again during Spectre? £1k?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    00Dalton wrote: »
    Campbell helming, David Arnold scoring...he can create a great final song and score for Craig's Bond and take the best of the melodies he created specifically for CR and QOS and weave them into the new soundtrack as a call back and say if booking ending things.

    Considering this is Craig's final Bond, I wish that Arnold (or whoever makes the score for it) not only used his melodies from CR and QoS but from SF and SP too. Not the way Skyfall tracks were used in SPECTRE, but rather take the motifs from those movies and rework them into the score. Madeleine's theme from Secret Room (the cukoo piano melody), for example, should be used if Swann does return.

    John Williams brilliantly used leit motif in Star Wars movies and each movie soundtrack still retained its identity. That's because he never copy-pasted a full 2-minute track from the previous scores but rather took the melody, re-orchestrated it and wove it into the score.
    00Dalton wrote: »
    And ideally a Fleming title. Risco could be easier sell commercially as it's concise. Hilderbrand Rariety which I love is just a touch to stuffy sounding for what we all hope will be a rip roaring fist-pumping final film.

    Agreed with this. I also think the title song should have an original title, because that would create a nice symmetry in Craig's era titles.

    Casino Royale (Fleming title, original song title)
    Quantum of Solace (Fleming title, original song title)
    Skyfall (Original title, song is titled after movie)
    SPECTRE (Fleming title, original song title)
    Bond 25 (Fleming title, original song title)

    Even more so if Bond 25 was titled after a location, following the path of the movies being called after a location, an organization, a location and an organization.

    Garden of Death would be perfect, as that's the name of a location, it's a Fleming title, and there's no way they'd name a song after that. But I also would not mind Risico being used as a movie title at some point, assuming it makes sense in the plot.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 12,837
    I'd be happy with Campbell, Mendes or Demange but of the three I'd prefer Campbell. Mendes has done a great job but he's done the last two, it'd feel a bit of a boring choice. Demange is a brilliant director but he's got a whole career ahead of him, he can always do a Bond film in the future. Campbell's getting on a bit. This could be the last chance we get for another Bond from him. And GE and CR (not one of my favourites personally but I can't deny how well done it is) sort of speak for themselves.

    He clearly gets Bond and him and Craig finishing what they started, with a script that uses YOLT as its base, paving the way for a Nolan helmed reboot, would be a dream come true imo.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Would be great to have a non-Bond PTS that showcases a villain enacting an early part of his plan, causing some level of deaths/destruction, which causes M to require Bond and have him return post-PTS.

    One of the problems with Spectre was the villain wasn't established - we simply didn't see any villainy! So yes, a none Bond pre-credit, showing us a horrible bad-bastard, and the PM saying to M "there's no other way... get Bond back, we need him".

    Too corny?

    I don't like this constant 'we need Bond back' comments in the films.

    Is the rest of the '00' section shit then ?
    Whats the point if none of them are good enough for anything ?

    (Apart from Trevelyn,006, back in 1995 ,who WAS Bond's equal).

    All 00 seem to get end up dead in the movies!

    More seriously I could easily see Bond being asked back because of his history with SPECTRE. Heck even Blofeld would want him back!

    I'd prefer they just had him bought back for the same reason he's kept on in YOLT: sympathy. Madeline is killed. M checks in on Bond months later. He's a wreck. For old time's sake he offers him a job. Obviously he's not fit to be a 00 anymore but there's a new post available in the diplomatic section: 777. Then he's sent to Japan to get the Magic 44 tech, etc. The only issue with this is would the public accept a Bond film with so little action? Probably not, so I'd have Spectre inform Blofeld that Bond is in Japan and Bond quickly has more on his plate than he planned when he ends up having to dodge Yakuza assassins or whoever (it'd be a crime to go to Japan and not have a fight on a bullet train) as he tries to uncover who's trying to kill him. The Japanese secret service help him investigate and they trace it back to Shatterhand who's presence is very embarassing for the country. Then Bond realises it's Blofeld, garden of death, all the rest.

    So to make the book work on screen they can just have a paranoid Blofeld put a hit out on Bond as soon as he gets to Japan to add a bit of action/mystery early on and break up the travelouge stuff.
  • FoxRox wrote: »
    So the back-to-back thing was likely bogus then. Interestingly this would make Craig the first Bond actor to have a total of 5.

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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I'm very encouraged that he said that he wanted to go out on a high; implying (at least to me, I don't need certain people's predictable indignation) that he realizes had he ended with SPECTRE that would not have been the case. Which, I again assume, would mean that we will see something quite different and refreshing in BOND 25.

    That is great news. Cognizance is the first step toward good change.
    Getafix wrote: »
    Well, we can hopefully rest easy knowing Newman is highly unlikely to come back.

    If Craig was out that would be a guarantee. I think it's very likely Mendes won't return, but heaven forfend...
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I really, really, really hope it is a high note that he ends on. Typically a Bond actor's last is seen as his worst (or one of the worst, anyway).

    They have a rare opportunity here. I hope they bring out the big guns.
    =bg= wrote: »
    I hope Arnold returns for the music and we can get some proper brassy stuff as opposed to Newman's wimpy synths. And if 25 is the last one for DC, this will be unique in that we didn't know going into any of the Bonds (to my knowledge) that what we are seeing is that actor's last go, right?

    That will make it an exciting and unique experience for sure.
    bondjames wrote: »
    I can't see them going back to Campbell. Are we really sure Mendes is out?

    I've strung garlic about the Pinewood windows and crumbled holy wafers over all entrances, but you can never be sure.
  • Posts: 12,521
    Just enjoying my Craig marathon over there. I'm almost halfway into SF now, which as someone pointed out earlier, is basically Craig's GF. Though it has plot points that come back in SP, it still works as a standalone Bond film very well. I think one of the biggest reasons why CR and SF are my favorite Craig films is because they work well both by themselves and also with the rest of his series, whereas QoS and SP are more reliant on the other films. Still, I truly enjoy all of them. Great Bond era for me.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    Thanks @FoxRox, I think many people, once DC's gone, will find what you are again discovering: although there are hiccups (as with any era of Bondom), this was a great era to be witness to.

    For some, it certainly won't come until DC's done and dusted. But, for most, it will come.

    I'm about to do a mini-DC-athon, but working backwards: starting with Sp...
  • Posts: 12,521
    peter wrote: »
    Thanks @FoxRox, I think many people, once DC's gone, will find what you are again discovering: although there are hiccups (as with any era of Bondom), this was a great era to be witness to.

    For some, it certainly won't come until DC's done and dusted. But, for most, it will come.

    I'm about to do a mini-DC-athon, but working backwards: starting with Sp...

    Cool idea; I did it the boring, chronological way!

    Craig's era is second only to Connery's IMO. I'm 90% sure whoever follows Craig will not be superior or have superior films. Just have a bad feeling about it.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,661
    Perhaps the rumour about EON selling their stake in Bond has some substance. Perhaps Babs and MG will call it a day after Craig's final Bond film? A new Bond actor, new producers, new studio (please sell your stake too, MGM!) and it will be all new new-ness for Bond 26.

    I'm not that excited by Craig's return (he did say he'd only return for the money - and it's kinda hard to forget that comment!) but we all do things in life for money so let's not pretend otherwise. I don't want to get too self-righteous about it. Anyway.. he's back. We have the news! Finally! Phew.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,359
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    he did say he'd only return for the money

    Craig is sarcastic with a sarcastic sense of humor.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Would be great to have a non-Bond PTS that showcases a villain enacting an early part of his plan, causing some level of deaths/destruction, which causes M to require Bond and have him return post-PTS.

    One of the problems with Spectre was the villain wasn't established - we simply didn't see any villainy! So yes, a none Bond pre-credit, showing us a horrible bad-bastard, and the PM saying to M "there's no other way... get Bond back, we need him".

    Too corny?

    I don't like this constant 'we need Bond back' comments in the films.

    Is the rest of the '00' section shit then ?
    Whats the point if none of them are good enough for anything ?

    (Apart from Trevelyn,006, back in 1995 ,who WAS Bond's equal).
    I would appreciate it if the other double-ohs were acknowledged in the next film, either verbally by M or maybe if they appeared in the background of a scene, perhaps after a Thunderball-style meeting.

    Also, I'd say the words "Bond" and "back" shouldn't ever appear in the same sentence in the script of the next film, and "trust" should be treated like a four-letter word.

    I'd be happy with Campbell, Mendes or Demange but of the three I'd prefer Campbell. Mendes has done a great job but he's done the last two, it'd feel a bit of a boring choice. Demange is a brilliant director but he's got a whole career ahead of him, he can always do a Bond film in the future. Campbell's getting on a bit. This could be the last chance we get for another Bond from him. And GE and CR (not one of my favourites personally but I can't deny how well done it is) sort of speak for themselves.

    He clearly gets Bond and him and Craig finishing what they started, with a script that uses YOLT as its base, paving the way for a Nolan helmed reboot, would be a dream come true imo.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Would be great to have a non-Bond PTS that showcases a villain enacting an early part of his plan, causing some level of deaths/destruction, which causes M to require Bond and have him return post-PTS.

    One of the problems with Spectre was the villain wasn't established - we simply didn't see any villainy! So yes, a none Bond pre-credit, showing us a horrible bad-bastard, and the PM saying to M "there's no other way... get Bond back, we need him".

    Too corny?

    I don't like this constant 'we need Bond back' comments in the films.

    Is the rest of the '00' section shit then ?
    Whats the point if none of them are good enough for anything ?

    (Apart from Trevelyn,006, back in 1995 ,who WAS Bond's equal).

    All 00 seem to get end up dead in the movies!

    More seriously I could easily see Bond being asked back because of his history with SPECTRE. Heck even Blofeld would want him back!

    I'd prefer they just had him bought back for the same reason he's kept on in YOLT: sympathy. Madeline is killed. M checks in on Bond months later. He's a wreck. For old time's sake he offers him a job. Obviously he's not fit to be a 00 anymore but there's a new post available in the diplomatic section: 777. Then he's sent to Japan to get the Magic 44 tech, etc. The only issue with this is would the public accept a Bond film with so little action? Probably not, so I'd have Spectre inform Blofeld that Bond is in Japan and Bond quickly has more on his plate than he planned when he ends up having to dodge Yakuza assassins or whoever (it'd be a crime to go to Japan and not have a fight on a bullet train) as he tries to uncover who's trying to kill him. The Japanese secret service help him investigate and they trace it back to Shatterhand who's presence is very embarassing for the country. Then Bond realises it's Blofeld, garden of death, all the rest.

    So to make the book work on screen they can just have a paranoid Blofeld put a hit out on Bond as soon as he gets to Japan to add a bit of action/mystery early on and break up the travelouge stuff.
    I'd watch this film.

    ---

    I'd also love to see Campbell return, but I'd rather not get my hopes up since he is not rumored at all.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited August 2017 Posts: 6,382
    I'd be happy with Campbell, Mendes or Demange but of the three I'd prefer Campbell. Mendes has done a great job but he's done the last two, it'd feel a bit of a boring choice. Demange is a brilliant director but he's got a whole career ahead of him, he can always do a Bond film in the future. Campbell's getting on a bit. This could be the last chance we get for another Bond from him. And GE and CR (not one of my favourites personally but I can't deny how well done it is) sort of speak for themselves.

    He clearly gets Bond and him and Craig finishing what they started, with a script that uses YOLT as its base, paving the way for a Nolan helmed reboot, would be a dream come true imo.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Would be great to have a non-Bond PTS that showcases a villain enacting an early part of his plan, causing some level of deaths/destruction, which causes M to require Bond and have him return post-PTS.

    One of the problems with Spectre was the villain wasn't established - we simply didn't see any villainy! So yes, a none Bond pre-credit, showing us a horrible bad-bastard, and the PM saying to M "there's no other way... get Bond back, we need him".

    Too corny?

    I don't like this constant 'we need Bond back' comments in the films.

    Is the rest of the '00' section shit then ?
    Whats the point if none of them are good enough for anything ?

    (Apart from Trevelyn,006, back in 1995 ,who WAS Bond's equal).

    All 00 seem to get end up dead in the movies!

    More seriously I could easily see Bond being asked back because of his history with SPECTRE. Heck even Blofeld would want him back!

    I'd prefer they just had him bought back for the same reason he's kept on in YOLT: sympathy. Madeline is killed. M checks in on Bond months later. He's a wreck. For old time's sake he offers him a job. Obviously he's not fit to be a 00 anymore but there's a new post available in the diplomatic section: 777. Then he's sent to Japan to get the Magic 44 tech, etc. The only issue with this is would the public accept a Bond film with so little action? Probably not, so I'd have Spectre inform Blofeld that Bond is in Japan and Bond quickly has more on his plate than he planned when he ends up having to dodge Yakuza assassins or whoever (it'd be a crime to go to Japan and not have a fight on a bullet train) as he tries to uncover who's trying to kill him. The Japanese secret service help him investigate and they trace it back to Shatterhand who's presence is very embarassing for the country. Then Bond realises it's Blofeld, garden of death, all the rest.

    So to make the book work on screen they can just have a paranoid Blofeld put a hit out on Bond as soon as he gets to Japan to add a bit of action/mystery early on and break up the travelouge stuff.

    They could combine YOLT and TMWTGG. Problem solved. Or add in other scenes like the barracuda swim from LALD. (MGW clearly knows how to do this.)

    The YOLT ending seems tailor-made for Craig, more than any other Bond actor so far.
  • Minion wrote: »
    Don't forget that less than 24 hours ago news outlets were reporting that Craig was still undecided. I wouldn't be surprised if they've secured a distributor already, but since those same news outlets aren't privy to that info yet they're still running with the previous rumors.

    News outlets reported Craig was undecided because he said he was undecided. It wasn't a lie (by the news outlets). Take that one up with Craig.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I think there may be a bit of romanticizing with Campbell that doesn't quite fit with what is really in CR. I love CR, but there is no way I want MC back.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 832
    shamanimal wrote: »
    I wonder how they'll handle the 'Bond leaving the service' angle, more than whether they'll bring Swan back.
    Will they jump straight into another Bond adventure and assume he never left the service, or will we get something villainous happening, and M saying "we need Bond, get him back".
    Which sounds cool to me.

    This would actually be perfect. A kind of tswlm/ mr opening. This is how I think should swann/ bond leaving should be handled. No physical appearance of Madeleine but implicit reference.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,511
    FoxRox wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Thanks @FoxRox, I think many people, once DC's gone, will find what you are again discovering: although there are hiccups (as with any era of Bondom), this was a great era to be witness to.

    For some, it certainly won't come until DC's done and dusted. But, for most, it will come.

    I'm about to do a mini-DC-athon, but working backwards: starting with Sp...

    Cool idea; I did it the boring, chronological way!

    Craig's era is second only to Connery's IMO. I'm 90% sure whoever follows Craig will not be superior or have superior films. Just have a bad feeling about it.

    I agree with you @FoxRox ... IMHO, it took them 30+ years to find a worthy successor to Connery (and that's not to slight the other actors; it's a personal opinion where I felt DC was the bastard child of SC and Fiona fertilized by Ian Fleming's seed.

    So, as a guess, I presume, with all my faults as a human, i won't love DC's replacement, although I have faith in Babs that she will choose someone who can at least carry the flame, until the next giant comes along... and that's my cross to bear! (Faults and all )
  • Posts: 12,521
    @Birdleson since SP is your least favorite Bond film, are you going in to the next one with very low expectations? How do you hope it is handled?
  • Posts: 12,521
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I will try to avoid as much pre-publicity as possible. Though, expectations have little to do with my feelings on these films as I watch them countless times. As I wrote earlier; I am encouraged that Craig said that he wants to go out on a high note, implying that he understands that SP was not that. I hope that he uses his influence to give us the type of Bond film that he excels in and breaks away from the morass of forced continuity and presents us with a smart, fresh idea as his two films that were both critically and commercially successful did.

    Fair enough. I think I'd preferably like a film that can both fit into his whole continuity but also stand alone like CR and SF. How would you feel about Blofeld coming back?
  • Posts: 230
    Walecs wrote: »

    Garden of Death would be perfect, as that's the name of a location, it's a Fleming title, and there's no way they'd name a song after that. But I also would not mind Risico being used as a movie title at some point, assuming it makes sense in the plot.

    Garden of Death actually does sound great. A lot of the titles fans come up with sound clunky and awkward, so well done. I could see a "dangerous hedge maze" motif in the title sequence (like the FRWL PTS). Maybe even have another sequence like that in the film.

  • Posts: 12,521
    I feel like ideally, they could craft a film where Blofeld did return (Waltz or another actor), but none of his SP characterization would have to be kept. Sort of like going from YOLT to OHMSS in the movies. I'd like to see Bond battle Blofeld again, seeing as he is an iconic and wonderful villain, and I think it could be achieved as something more standalone like CR or SF, while maybe having the slightest connections to the past films (nothing drastic though). If not, I hope for an excellent original villain.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited August 2017 Posts: 306
    Happy that Daniel Craig is confirmed for Bond 25!
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 12,521
    I see. For me, what most holds back both QoS and SP, is being reliant on the past and needing the films before them to help them do well. I like both of them, but Bond films traditionally work best as standalone experiences, which I think CR and SF offer. However, I love both Craig's Bond and Blofeld's character, so I feel like it may be a shame if we don't get a standalone film with them having a showdown. At the same time, it might not even matter if we get a villain as cool as Le Chiffre or Silva for Bond 25. I will be interested to see how much they reference Craig's continuity in Bond 25, because since CR and SF hardly do, we may get something more like that again that can appeal to the masses.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    Any location scouting news for Bond 25?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    I have missed over 800 comments in this discussion. Any particular moments to tell me of other than Daniel Craig returning?

    Happy that Daniel Craig is confirmed!
    Feel free to visit the first page, where you'll find a detailed timeline of Bond 25 news.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited August 2017 Posts: 306
    jake24 wrote: »
    I have missed over 800 comments in this discussion. Any particular moments to tell me of other than Daniel Craig returning?

    Happy that Daniel Craig is confirmed!
    Feel free to visit the first page, where you'll find a detailed timeline of Bond 25 news.

    Oh, yes. Thank you a lot!
  • Posts: 386
    Hell no to Mendes.

    Despite the BO his films have generated, I would argue he has not been a good influence on Daniel Craig's portrayal of Bond.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 12,521
    I definitely don't want Mendes back. I think most of us, whether or not we liked SF/SP, can agree on that. I like a lot about SP, but it really does become too by-the-numbers at points, and the third act shows he has worn out his welcome.

    EDIT: The more I think about it, I think the more likely it is Bond 25 will be a mostly standalone experience. People have been vocal that the continuity retreads have gotten old for Bond, and both CR and SF were Craig's more critically successful ones - each of which can stand on their own pretty well.
  • Posts: 386
    It's a good point. QoS labors under the baggage of CR, and the hand that joined the dots of Quantum and Spectre in SP was that of a drunk two-year-old.

    Bond, and by extension Craig, is much better when he's sauntering through a self-contained story.

    As others have said, Bond history is littered with features that simply reset his world. Why does Craig have to tie off loose ends?

    Loose ends be damned. Have Craig face off against a Stromberg or a Drax in a ridiculously entertaining film with glamorous women, casinos, room service and opera tickets.

    After the reportedly wretched experience on SP, I reckon that's what he wants too.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 11,425
    peter wrote: »
    Thanks @FoxRox, I think many people, once DC's gone, will find what you are again discovering: although there are hiccups (as with any era of Bondom), this was a great era to be witness to.

    For some, it certainly won't come until DC's done and dusted. But, for most, it will come.

    I'm about to do a mini-DC-athon, but working backwards: starting with Sp...

    I think you're probably right. On balance the films are all of a pretty consistently high quality. Yes there are blips and missteps but I doubt fans of the future will be as hung up about Brofeld as some on here.

    What I wonder about is whether the Craig era films will have the same rewatchability as the Connery and Moore era films. With the notable and welcome exception of QOS the Craig films are all VERY LONG. They have a tendency to drag and overstay their welcome a little.

    In the overall scheme of things however they enrich the series and add variety.

    And for all the whining and carping on here about the character arc, I do think one of the strengths of DC's era for future fans will be the enjoyment of seeing his Bond age, evolve and go on a personal journey. Frankly that's one of the main things he's going to be remembered for. All the other Bonds just arrived fully formed and left the stage almost unscathed.

    I'm not a Fleming afficianado but it seems one of the key aspects of the character that the films have traditionally ignored is the emotional and physical impact on Bond. Of course there have been attempts to convey this in odd films previously but never consistently from film to film.

    With B25 they will definitely want to round everything off. Say something definitive and final about what this life has done to the DC Bond. It's quite exciting actually thinking about the possibilities and where he ends up. A "happy ending" for Craig would be a cop out in my opinion. SP suggested happiness was a possibility, but B25 will blow this delusion apart - it's clearly where they have to go.

    And regardless of whether Bond triumphs over Blofeld he's going to end up broken as a man. No alternative.
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