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  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    One reason why I buy the 2 part rumor is cause the big film series have had 2 part endings. Harry Potter, Twilight, Hungers Games etc..

    I can totally see Eon jumping on the trend end having a 2 part film end Craigs run as Bond.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    double post.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Now I dont have a good memory and I dont want to be offensive but for those of you that do have a memory does "quantum organization" usually call stuff correctly?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    "PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Promising news. Newman dropped the ball on Spectre, but his Skyfall score was truly great, I'm sure he has another GREAT Bond score in him. Btw, I would be happy with any composer as long as it's not David Arnold.

    You have to be real for 1 minute at least once about Newman. No matter how 'great' his SF score was, it cannot be classified as a 'great' Bond score by any means whatsoever because it is missing one fundamental aspect that is required in any Bond soundtrack: instrumental versions of the film's theme song interwoven in the score. I am not discrediting his work on SF, but that missing aspect of his soundtrack eliminates his score from being a top-tier Bond OST on the spot. I'm not saying Newman should have aped Barry or anything, but being able to come up with several instrumental cues of the theme song is a pre-requisite for a Bond score. That's what seperates Bond, music wise, from any other franchise - Bond not only has his own theme song, but each film in the franchise has its own specific theme song on top of it.

    100% agreed with this.
    Murdock wrote: »
    Newman should be banned after his horrific copy and paste job. He's the worst Bond composer ever.

    To be fair with Newman, as far as I understood using Skyfall's tracks in SPECTRE was decided by the production, not by him.

    Still, I hope he won't return.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He's the worst Bond composer ever.
    Yet he is the first composer since the 70s to get nominated for an Oscar for a Bond score. ;)

    Yeah because oscars are the single crowning defining factor for great quality. You should be a comedian with these jokes.
    You need to understand how the Oscars work. The 5 nominees in the Best Original Score category are selected by professional composers. The winner is then chosen by the whole Academy. Clearly, the average make-up artist or an actor won't know much about music (at least not more than you or I do), so the winner doesn't really matter. The 5 nominees on the other hand, as I wrote, are determined by people who know more about music than pretty much anyone in this forum. So yes, the fact that Newman got nominated for Skyfall does prove that it's a great movie score.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    You've been telling us over and over again that EON were going to sell the Bond rights after Bond 25, and now you are saying they bought the Blofeld rights so that no one else ever gets to use them?
    You don't get it. The McClory estate were rivals. Also, that happened 4 years ago. 4 years can be a very long time in the film industry.
    I find it hard to believe that I need to "man up" when you're the one who is spouting nonsense like the above.

  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited August 2017 Posts: 4,619
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Newman should be banned after his horrific copy and paste job. He's the worst Bond composer ever.

    Now lets not be silly, hes a shit composer but worst ever is reserved for a man whose name rhymes with Leric Ferra
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Newman should be banned after his horrific copy and paste job. He's the worst Bond composer ever.

    Now lets not be silly, hes a shit composer but worst ever is reserved for a man whose name rhymes with Leric Ferra

    Serra delivered a far better and much more memorable Bond score than Newman could dream of.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.

    Are you having hallucinations? Where did I mention the Bond theme? I said the film's theme song. You are aware SF's theme song is the one sung by Adele? Which I believe won an Oscar, so are these awards important for you or not, or just another case of you being inconsistent?
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    Lets all calm down abit and see what Jake 24 finds out
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited August 2017 Posts: 1,165
    Although I do side with @DaltonCraig007 on the theme being present, it wouldn't be the first time it went missing. GE didn't call back to the theme at all, and I don't recall hearing any of TWINE or LTK in their soundtracks. QOS is also devoid of AWTD, though it has several hints of Shirley Bassey's No Good About Goodbye (I don't buy Arnold's statement that it was sheer coincidence).
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
    Posts: 1,187
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
    Have you lost it, buddy? You really think I'm going to expose my source because you want me to!

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    @007Blofeld, this is for you. =))
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  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    Calm down guys we don't need to start world war 3 here
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Minion wrote: »
    Although I do side with @DaltonCraig007 on the theme being present, it wouldn't be the first time it went missing. GE didn't call back to the theme at all, and I don't recall hearing any of TWINE or LTK in their soundtracks. QOS is also devoid of AWTD, though it has several hints of Shirley Bassey's No Good About Goodbye (I don't buy Arnold's statement that it was sheer coincidence).

    I hope they go back to Qos one day on an ultimate edition and make a reedit cut that also includes no good about goodbye
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Minion wrote: »
    Although I do side with @DaltonCraig007 on the theme being present, it wouldn't be the first time it went missing. GE didn't call back to the theme at all, and I don't recall hearing any of TWINE or LTK in their soundtracks. QOS is also devoid of AWTD, though it has several hints of Shirley Bassey's No Good About Goodbye (I don't buy Arnold's statement that it was sheer coincidence).

    I hope they go back to Qos one day on an ultimate edition and make a reedit cut that also includes no good about goodbye

    We could all do with a quantum of Bassey!
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited August 2017 Posts: 3,126
    Murdock wrote: »
    @007Blofeld, this is for you. =))
    waZ6MgMl.jpg

    @Murdock I love it I can't get enough keep it going can't stop laughing :)) :)) :)) =)) =))
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    @007Blofeld, this is for you. =))
    waZ6MgMl.jpg

    @Murdock I love it I can't get enough keep it going can't stop laughing :)) :)) :)) =)) =))

    Happy to hear it. This new version of CR's bathroom fight is so great. :))
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    Minion wrote: »
    Although I do side with @DaltonCraig007 on the theme being present, it wouldn't be the first time it went missing. GE didn't call back to the theme at all, and I don't recall hearing any of TWINE or LTK in their soundtracks. QOS is also devoid of AWTD, though it has several hints of Shirley Bassey's No Good About Goodbye (I don't buy Arnold's statement that it was sheer coincidence).

    It's definitely there in TWINE. A number of times during the boat chase and it pops up during the transition sequences.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
    Have you lost it, buddy? You really think I'm going to expose my source because you want me to!

    You already told us your source is David Zaritsky.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    Minion wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    The composer for Demange's WHITE BOY RICK is none other than... Thomas Newman
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    I actually don't have any beef with Newman, I'd just like a new composer.

    They're hiring Demange!

    And then they're going to hire Newman!

    OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    t's not me who doesn't get it, but you who isn't being consistent. Why use that argument now, since obviously for you they are now planning to sell the Bond rights all together. Your post I quoted above is entirely redundant since you have been claiming for the last 2 weeks or so that EON are about to give up on Bond.
    I have never claimed that EON are going to sell Bond. It wasn't me who started that rumour. All I have said is that I'm 100% sure those rumors are not complete nonsense. Anyway, why would it make no sense for EON to not want other companies have the chance to producre rival Bond films in 2013, and then 4 years later for them to want to sell the Bond movie rights?

    This is a completely plausible set of events:
    2012/2013: EON sees it's possible to get back those Blofeld rights back, and since they have always found McClory annoying, that's exactly what they do. Now they can finally know for sure that nobody will ever be able to produce a rival Bond film.
    2016/2017: Michael G. Wilson tells Barbara that he is retiring after Bond 25. Barbara Broccoli decides that he doesn't want to continue producing Bond films either. They decide to sell the franchise.

    Obviously I am speculating, I simply wanted to illustrate that it's entirely plausible that they want to sell the franchise now despite not wanting rival companies producing rival Bond films back in 2013.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I'd imagine if Newman comes back they'll use David Arnold's Casino Royale Bond theme for the forth time since if Newman does try to write something new it will sound like this.
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He's the worst Bond composer ever.
    Yet he is the first composer since the 70s to get nominated for an Oscar for a Bond score. ;)

    Which says a lot about the people doing the nominating.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited August 2017 Posts: 3,126
    Murdock wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    @007Blofeld, this is for you. =))
    waZ6MgMl.jpg

    @Murdock I love it I can't get enough keep it going can't stop laughing :)) :)) :)) =)) =))

    Happy to hear it. This new version of CR's bathroom fight is so great. :))

    @Murdock Bond 25 Pretitle Sequence =)) ?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited August 2017 Posts: 4,619
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
    Have you lost it, buddy? You really think I'm going to expose my source because you want me to!
    You need to start cutting the pills you take in half, son. I did not ask you to expose your "source". Just tell us how reliable your "source" is.
    RC7 wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
    Have you lost it, buddy? You really think I'm going to expose my source because you want me to!

    You already told us your source is David Zaritsky.
    LOL. @QuantumOrganization please tell us Zaritsky is not your "source"! Don't get me wrong, I love his videos and he seems like a great guy, but if he is your "source" then this back-to-back rumor is clearly rubbish.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited August 2017 Posts: 3,126
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'd imagine if Newman comes back they'll use David Arnold's Casino Royale Bond theme for the forth time since if Newman does try to write something new it will sound like this.

    @Murdock sounds like wario on the toilet =))
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited August 2017 Posts: 7,021
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'd imagine if Newman comes back they'll use David Arnold's Casino Royale Bond theme for the forth time since if Newman does try to write something new it will sound like this.

    (ring ring)
    "Barbara, it's Thomas Newman!"
    "It's 3 AM, Thomas! (pause) Okay, what do you want now?"
    "I've done it, I've finished writing the title song for Bond 25!"
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @QuantumOrganization Again, you need to man up and stop being cryptic.
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    And you are missing the point that his SF score is not a 'great' Bond score due to one key element missing.
    Ok, I get it, you just want to hear the Bond theme anytime there is an action scene. I don't.
    Have you lost it, buddy? You really think I'm going to expose my source because you want me to!
    You need to start cutting the pills you take in half, son. I did not ask you to expose your "source". Just tell us how reliable your "source" is.

    If we're going to start talking about the reliability of each sources, do you mind telling us the reliability of your source about the Radiohead theme song for SP that you said was 100% bulletproof?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    @Murdock sounds like wario on the toilet =))

    We should probably move on. =))

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