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This sums it up for me. Excellent post, @Denbigh!
I mean sensual as in stimulating to the senses. And I'm not advocating for Bond to become as promiscuous as he was in the 60s, I'm just trying to justify it in the context of the time.
I still think he should have had a classic Bond encounter with the receptionist at The Ocean Club 😏
Me too; I just don't think his relations with women are terribly sensual, especially in the early days. Maybe Fiona in bed in Thunderball, but that's about it really.
I think FRWL deserves a mention too. But it doesn't have to involve sex to be stimulating. Even in the three films you mentioned, Bond still sleeps with at least one woman, and the women themselves are presented in an exciting way, even the ones he doesn't sleep with.
That's your opinion, but the crux of what I'm saying is that seeing beautiful people, places, and things on screen is part of the appeal.
I think you're extrapolating this into a different discussion: no-one's saying that attractive things shouldn't be on screen, we're specifically talking about Bond's womanising. Let's stick within those goalposts.
Fair enough. I just took issue with @MakeshiftPython's rather crass comments.
People are so confused and sure of themselves at the same time, these days. It’s an embarrassing paradox, I’d say.
Is it important to discuss things? Yes, always. But it’s also important not to confuse things. Is Bond all about sex? Yes. See Fleming interviews. Was Bond always a vehicle for empowered women? Yes. Is Bond a misogynist? No, he never was. Not even in the novels. And so on and so on. Ad nauseum and ad eternum. Tired old discussions. Is casual sex a thing in the world? Yes. Do spies use human dynamics to establish connections and engames? Yes, they do. Women too, read on Margaretha Gertruida Zelle. Do people willingly use each other to suit their need? Yes, and that shouldn’t be confused with other imoral shenanigans.
I could go on, but haven’t we been here already? Countless times?
As for sex in Bond films, if one doesn't like it, see something else.
Exacly.
Why would the 30th anniversary of TND mean anything at all?
How dare you. You'll have to pay the penalty for your insolence.
One thing I like about the bit with the receptionist in CR is that she is obviously digging Bond but she’s not reduced to fawning over him like a school girl like that one receptionist in TB. Case in point is that the camera lingers on her as Bond moves on, and we see her simply get back to work, rather than looking over at him with longing.
Man, I remember plenty of fans back in 2006 getting so upset over the fact that Bond didn’t sleep with Solange before leaving. OH NO FORMULA IS RUINED! I do think it was a good way to modernize that Bond will seduce a lady for information but he’ll leave when the situation calls for it, which shows a sense of urgency in Bond’s pursuit. But the icing on the cake is that he orders her a parting gift with a bottle of Bollinger. He’d probably like to stick around and share it with her, but he has a mission.
Well, I was because I would ;)
Nah, love that scene.
Huh? Cary Fukunaga was 42 years old at the time of NTTD’s production. That’s not young, that’s middle aged. In comparison, Terence Young was 46 when he shot DN, and he too was accused of inappropriate behavior.
I think the youngest director we’ve had attached to Bond was Marc Forster at 38. As far as I know, he hasn’t been accused like his two fellow Craig era directors.
Yes, both are those are great. I also think the Solange scene is one of the very few times a Bond film has been genuinely sexy.
I never suggested it was a bad thing.