Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Posts: 2,266
    The Adirondacks would be quite the interesting backdrop if they ever decided on that for a location. That’s a big IF however.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I don’t know much about American geography, but it’d be kinda cool maybe to see a part of it in Bond that’s a bit more woodland/rural and less Nee York or LA. Dependent on the story of course

    Probably Alaska or the Rockies...but you could go to Canada instead.

    The desert areas (Utah, Nevada, California) are interesting. Of course they already went there for DAF and OP.

    As are some of the Florida swamps (if they ever do the climax of TMWTGG novel)/Everglades. They went there for MR.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I kind of think there are plenty of films set in the US: I prefer Bond to have a bit more of an exotic or unusual flavour. When I think of the Bonds set in the US they're not often my favourite scenes, although LALD does it well.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    I kind of think there are plenty of films set in the US: I prefer Bond to have a bit more of an exotic or unusual flavour. When I think of the Bonds set in the US they're not often my favourite scenes, although LALD does it well.

    I don't fully agree with the adage that things are bad whenever Bond travels to the USA -- some pretty good moments in the series took place there -- but I prefer the more exotic locations as well. Thinking about it, it's been a while since Bond visited the continental USA. Perhaps it's time to go back there. New York remains a fascinating city.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.

    I C what U did there.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.

    I'm not sure... MR topped it all. ;-)

    Seriously, though, I agree with @Creasy47 that many awesome locations have yet to be introduced in a Bond film. And even countries where the Bonds did go in the past, could easily be revisited in some cases. I'm thinking about the likes of Japan and -- well, mainly Japan.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.

    I'm not sure... MR topped it all. ;-)

    Seriously, though, I agree with @Creasy47 that many awesome locations have yet to be introduced in a Bond film. And even countries where the Bonds did go in the past, could easily be revisited in some cases. I'm thinking about the likes of Japan and -- well, mainly Japan.

    And let's not forget Japan.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.

    I'm not sure... MR topped it all. ;-)

    Seriously, though, I agree with @Creasy47 that many awesome locations have yet to be introduced in a Bond film. And even countries where the Bonds did go in the past, could easily be revisited in some cases. I'm thinking about the likes of Japan and -- well, mainly Japan.

    And let's not forget Japan.

    Thanks for reminding me! Yes, I second that. Japan.

    Look, we are joking, of course, but it's such a beautiful country and we haven't seen enough of it yet in the Bonds, despite YOLT. Just my two cents.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I'm all for it.
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    Mount Fuji in Japan! Nice backdrop and there can be a hidden lair in the mountainside.
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    echo wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I don’t know much about American geography, but it’d be kinda cool maybe to see a part of it in Bond that’s a bit more woodland/rural and less Nee York or LA. Dependent on the story of course

    Probably Alaska or the Rockies...but you could go to Canada instead.

    The desert areas (Utah, Nevada, California) are interesting. Of course they already went there for DAF and OP.

    As are some of the Florida swamps (if they ever do the climax of TMWTGG novel)/Everglades. They went there for MR.

    Alaskans don't like Canada posing as Alaska. Might as well film something in NYC and call it London.
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    It's less about where you film but how you film. A good example is the Bosch series which is a love letter to L.A.
  • edited May 8 Posts: 561
    CrabKey wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I don’t know much about American geography, but it’d be kinda cool maybe to see a part of it in Bond that’s a bit more woodland/rural and less Nee York or LA. Dependent on the story of course

    Probably Alaska or the Rockies...but you could go to Canada instead.

    The desert areas (Utah, Nevada, California) are interesting. Of course they already went there for DAF and OP.

    As are some of the Florida swamps (if they ever do the climax of TMWTGG novel)/Everglades. They went there for MR.

    Alaskans don't like Canada posing as Alaska. Might as well film something in NYC and call it London.

    Movies/TV film Toronto as New York City all the time FWIW
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    Right you are.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I don’t know much about American geography, but it’d be kinda cool maybe to see a part of it in Bond that’s a bit more woodland/rural and less Nee York or LA. Dependent on the story of course

    Probably Alaska or the Rockies...but you could go to Canada instead.

    The desert areas (Utah, Nevada, California) are interesting. Of course they already went there for DAF and OP.

    As are some of the Florida swamps (if they ever do the climax of TMWTGG novel)/Everglades. They went there for MR.

    Alaskans don't like Canada posing as Alaska. Might as well film something in NYC and call it London.

    Movies/TV film Toronto as New York City all the time FWIW

    Indiana Jones recently shot London and Glasgow as NYC: looked good.

    I watched Statham’s latest The Beekeeper on the weekend: all set in the US but perhaps slightly conspicuously filmed in the U.K.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I remember watching an episode of Nikita set in London. Never have the buildings looked so clean, the snow so pure, the mountains so majestic.

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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I want to see Bond go where he has yet to. There are still plenty of locations that unbelievably have yet to be incorporated and explored in an entry.

    What about Mount Everest? You can't top that.

    I C what U did there.

    It would certainly be an "All time high"
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Mount Fuji in Japan! Nice backdrop and there can be a hidden lair in the mountainside.

    IIRC, there is something of a security zone around the mountain that forbids development etc. so that could be a great cover for a secret lair. Same thing with like, hiding out in a US national park.

    Randomly, I think Bond might end up in the arctic in the next era the way military strategy in the real world is playing out.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Randomly, I think Bond might end up in the arctic in the next era the way military strategy in the real world is playing out.

    Love it
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    peter wrote: »
    Randomly, I think Bond might end up in the arctic in the next era the way military strategy in the real world is playing out.

    Love it

    Me too.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Randomly, I think Bond might end up in the arctic in the next era the way military strategy in the real world is playing out.

    Love it

    Me too.

    The producers could flex by moving production to a crazy set very North (maybe even in the actual Arctic) and the new actor could flex his extreme ability to.... brace the cold idk.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Alaskans don't like Canada posing as Alaska. Might as well film something in NYC and call it London.
    Yeah - Pierce is filming in Leeds and they're calling it Sheffield. That's almost a deliberate provocation, man.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I wouldn't be surprised if EONs choice of director ends up being due to budgetary reasons. David Leitch just released his ode of stunt performers The Fall Guy in cinemas, with a 130 million dollar price tag, and the film flopped despite having excellent word of mouth, great reviews, a more than impressive marketing campaign, and starring two of last summers hottest talent in Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. There's simply no safe bets anymore it seems, and the curse of the 2023 boxoffice season has yet to be lifted. Hopefully this doesn't spell bad news for the rest of the summer, this year really needed to be a bounce back season for an industry in ongoing turmoil. I believe EON will be looking for a Martin Campbell type, if not the man himself ;) and downsizing their operation to a brisk film that hits the right marks, and establishes a new direction before they get too carried away with themselves.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if EONs choice of director ends up being due to budgetary reasons. David Leitch just released his ode of stunt performers The Fall Guy in cinemas, with a 130 million dollar price tag, and the film flopped despite having excellent word of mouth, great reviews, a more than impressive marketing campaign, and starring two of last summers hottest talent in Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. There's simply no safe bets anymore it seems, and the curse of the 2023 boxoffice season has yet to be lifted. Hopefully this doesn't spell bad news for the rest of the summer, this year really needed to be a bounce back season for an industry in ongoing turmoil. I believe EON will be looking for a Martin Campbell type, if not the man himself ;) and downsizing their operation to a brisk film that hits the right marks, and establishes a new direction before they get too carried away with themselves.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they hire a TV director.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    I wouldn't be surprised if EONs choice of director ends up being due to budgetary reasons. David Leitch just released his ode of stunt performers The Fall Guy in cinemas, with a 130 million dollar price tag, and the film flopped despite having excellent word of mouth, great reviews, a more than impressive marketing campaign, and starring two of last summers hottest talent in Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. There's simply no safe bets anymore it seems, and the curse of the 2023 boxoffice season has yet to be lifted. Hopefully this doesn't spell bad news for the rest of the summer, this year really needed to be a bounce back season for an industry in ongoing turmoil. I believe EON will be looking for a Martin Campbell type, if not the man himself ;) and downsizing their operation to a brisk film that hits the right marks, and establishes a new direction before they get too carried away with themselves.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they hire a TV director.

    The weird thing about the fall guy is if they could have managed to keep the budget around 70 million the film would be considered a success.

    I thought the final act of the film became oversaturated with unnecessary action, and it somewhat dismissed the breezy concept they had going. Loved the movie as a whole though.
  • edited May 11 Posts: 4,139
    Haven’t seen The Fall Guy yet (I’ve heard great things regarding reviews etc, but at the same time I don’t think I actually know anyone who has any interest in seeing it, which is likely part of the problem). Much like the latest MI’s underperformance though I don’t think this’ll mean anything for Bond.

    I’ve heard a few reasons why FG didn’t land, and I can relate to at least one of them. Simply put it’s not a film I thought worth paying to see in the cinema. Not to say I won’t see it, but compared to, say, Dune 2 (which did do very well financially, and clocked in at a 190 million budget with of course a top tier director) it honestly came across more like a Netflix film/something I’d simply catch later. It didn’t feel like an ‘event’ of a film that I had to see. I actually had the same thought process with MI (it being the first half of a two parter - and truth be told I’ve still not watched it). Add to that the subject matter of Fall Guy is a bit niche (I suspect it’s the sort of film that appeals more to slightly older audiences who actually seem less likely to go to the cinema nowadays) and the unfortunate truth that often good movies aren’t hits and there you go…

    Bond is at least an established IP and by contrast has an ability to drum up relatively large audiences who feel the film worth watching in cinemas. A bigger draw will depend on competition, and certainly they might scale things down simply as a creative choice, but I don’t think their choice in director will be affected by this. They’ll pick who they think best.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Haven’t seen The Fall Guy yet (I’ve heard great things regarding reviews etc, but at the same time I don’t think I actually know anyone who has any interest in seeing it, which is likely part of the problem). Much like the latest MI’s underperformance though I don’t think this’ll mean anything for Bond.

    I’ve heard a few reasons why FG didn’t land, and I can relate to at least one of them. Simply put it’s not a film I thought worth paying to see in the cinema. Not to say I won’t see it, but compared to, say, Dune 2 (which did do very well financially, and clocked in at a 190 million budget with of course a top tier director) it honestly came across more like a Netflix film/something I’d simply catch later. It didn’t feel like an ‘event’ of a film that I had to see. I actually had the same thought process with MI (it being the first half of a two parter - and truth be told I’ve still not watched it). Add to that the subject matter of Fall Guy is a bit niche (I suspect it’s the sort of film that appeals more to slightly older audiences who actually seem less likely to go to the cinema nowadays) and the unfortunate truth that often good movies aren’t hits and there you go…

    Bond is at least an established IP and by contrast has an ability to drum up relatively large audiences who feel the film worth watching in cinemas. A bigger draw will depend on competition, and certainly they might scale things down simply as a creative choice, but I don’t think their choice in director will be affected by this. They’ll pick who they think best.

    Even dune wasn't a smash hit, 700 million on a 190 million budget would have been considered quite normal in 2019, now its celebrated as a major win.

    Really since 2021 only a dozen or so films have been true breakout success stories on the level a SP/Bond sized production needs to be to turn a profit. Avatar, Barbie, Top Gun, Oppenhiemer, Super Mario, Guardians of the Galaxy, a few others. The question is, does Bond 26 still land with the much needed under 25 demographic, or it is more like Indiana Jones, an nostalgic hero for an older generation.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That is a good question, to be fair. I don't know the answer.

    So many previously reliable box office brands bombing recently is a worry though. It's hard to see a pattern to it.
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