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But Ouromov was whispering that to himself in that was the story he was going to tell as an excuse for killing Bond and Natalya.
Im not saying Bond didnt need to act but his subsequent slaughter of russian soldiers pretty much makes him look guilty for killing Mishkin.
Youd think that Bond and Natalya would have had difficulty getting out of russia after the train sequence was over since the were now essentially wanted fugitives.But heck no, all is good and Bond and Natalya have time to smooch.
True Oromov whispered it to himself but it was fairly likely he'd have just yelled "KILL HIM" or something along those lines once the guards entered the room. At that point Oromov was unarmed and had given his gun to Bond. The idea was for the guards to shoot Bond - not Oromov.
Exactly. And it's not like Bond could have explained himself.
Agree entirely, though GoldenEye was quite good. Wish they'd given him one last shot...his "For Your Eyes Only", if you will.
See i will never understand why GE has supposedly a better script than Brosnans other Bond films.I thought they all had their strengths and weaknesses just like all the other Bond films.And TND and TWINE were overall better films than GE in my opinion.
I think GE is looked at less critically because for a lot of fans it was their first Bond movie and because of their nostalgic love of the videogame.
GE's story is iffy, it's got quite a few plot holes and the whole thing is a bit silly but it's great fun and it's packed full of great dialouge/scenes, colourful characters, iconic moments and terrific action. It has a great cast, one of the best Bond girls, one of the best Bond actors and it reinvented Bond post cold war. One of the best Bond films, only the Dalton films beat it imho.
TND is fun but too much of an action fest (and the action isn't as good as GE) and it feels like a bit of a missed opportunity since there are a few great ideas that aren't very well executed. it's alright but nothing special imo. TWINE I think is very good and probabbly the most underrated Bond film ever. DAD is pretty crap but 3/4 isn't a bad track record at all.
We didn't get any of that in TND onwards. Just very generic and very bland action sequences that had been done before. TWINE is perhaps the biggest culprit because all of it's set pieces are so mind numbingly boring.
And it was the film that put Bond back in the game after people thought he was on life support. Plus, Natalya's a top ten Bond girl (for me), Alec's a good ally turned enemy, and the action is cool, especially the tank chase. Plus, this scene alone is great:
Alec Trevelyan: [hanging from his foot held by Bond's hands] "For England, James?"
James Bond: "No. For me."
For me, I like TND better than GE because of Brosnan's fine performance. It was his strongest Bond. Overall, I enjoy TND a lot. I think GE is more polished as a film, for the entire film. And it sure was an important film! Getting Bond re-established in such a fine way.
But TND is still quite a good Bond film for me. Could have done less with so much on the stealth boat, but that's about it. I enjoy most of the action a lot. I like the motorbike chase scene every bit as well (or better) than the tank scene in GE.
Can't agree with that at all. You say that the action sequences after GE are generic but then you single out TWINE which is arguably one of the most inventive Bond films when it comes to action.
Helicopters with buzz saws, a gadget filled boat chase along the thames, parahawks, when has any of this been done before? I can see why you might find them boring (the direction isn't very exciting, you can tell Apted isn't used to action) but bland/generic?
The boat chase is without doubt the most overrated action sequence in the entire series. Not helped by the fact that it's far too long. The barrell roll is ludicrous and badly edited. The skiing/parahawk section is as dull as dishwater. Explosion here, explosion there. Repeat again and again. I'm afraid it's all very much painting by numbers.
And then we get two shootouts (the nuclear bunker and the caviar factory) culminating with an exploding helicopter that actually rivals DAD in the awful special effects department. It's downright embarrassing.
I don't actually mind it's story and I think it's Brozzers best performance (despite pain face and shoulderrrrrrrr) but I just hate it's action sequences. Ironically, the most exciting bit is the banker's office, which presumably cost very little compared to the rest of the film.
This. It was my favourite action scene, sober, efficient and introduced the plot nicely.
Agreed but I don't think that means it's bland or generic. The majority of the action sequences are fairly original and inventive. The parahawks, the gadget packed boat chase through London, the helicopters with the saws, etc, even if you don't like them, we haven't seen anything like this in a Bond film before, so they can't be considered bland or generic. Boring maybe, like you said, the direction is a bit dull, but paint by the numbers? Nah.
That is the complete interview. Great reading and as for his Bond remarks I can very much understand and see where he is coming from.
A very nice interview that gives some insight in Brosnan, and yes I do find him an actor that represents an acting era that is gone with the likes of Cary Grant, George Sanders & Dacid Niven.
I dont remember any action scene from any film being like the BMW chase or the saigon bike chase in TND.
TWINE has one of the best PTS action scenes ever and the docklands battle is outstanding also.
Really like the hovercraft chase in DAD as well as the car duel.
These were all brilliantly executed and original action sequences.Again, i think those who continually bash the other Brosnan bonds besides GE are just trolling really.
Coming from someone who's criticised Craig in the exact same manner ever since he joined. That really is a laughable comment.
I actually like all the Bond actors. I have my favourites but I think they all did a good job and each one was perfect for the time they were cast.
I think Craig and Brosnan bashers are just as bad as each other. It's alright if you have a laugh about it and respectfully disagree (like @Thunderfinger) but I can't stand it when people just post nasty, mean spirited comments about a certain era and it's even worse when they have a go at people who disagree with them.
I agree. The Brosnan Bonds had a lot going for them, and they are really fun movies. Once a new Bond comes to the scene, the previous one is seen as crap. I think more people will appreciate Brosnan's tenure over time. As I recall, Brosnan's movies were loved, as was he, when he was Bond. It's a shame that people (not all) backlash the same person they once supported.
I do think that's true when it comes to the last few actors. People are always slagging off Brosnan now while Craig is perhaps the most popular Bond and Dalton has more fans than ever before, but back when Brosnan was Bond he was the best since Connery while Dalton's films were seen as failures.
It'll be interesting to see how most people view the Craig films in 20 years time.
In my opinion, a lot of the criticism of Brosnans Bond films ( particularly DAD ) come from fans who really take their Bond films too seriously.I enjoy DAD for what it is, a fun action movie thats not meant to be taken very seriously.Its also really laughable when the bashers criticise Denise Richards in TWINE saying along the lines of '' Oh she was just NOT beleivable as a nuclear scientist! ''.Really? Guys the characters name is Dr CHRISTMAS JONES...we are not supposed to take her seriously.She is just a fun bit of camp and sex appeal in a movie to lighten the mood of what was othewise a darker than usual Bond film.
If you want realism, go watch a documentary.I like Bond movies because they are fun escapism.
Moonraker is not meant to be taken seriously and I'm not it's biggest fan, but at least that's a competently made production with a bit of class. We all know Bond films are meant to be fun but I think most people expect a certain standard from a long running series like this. Saying "oh its not meant to be taken seriously" can be a bit of a cop-out. Michael Bay films "aren't meant to be taken seriously".
I agree that some of the flack Brosnan gets here is mean-spirited BUT some of it is valid. I love Brosnan but you can't argue that even he isn't satisfied with his films.