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The worst actor and ugliest is Daniel Craig - he has zero sex appeal. He has completely ruined my hunger for any more 007 movies. I can't understand why the Broccoli's cast him. I didn't think Dalton was good...but I still enjoyed the movies. The last three 007 movies with Craig have taken the Bond series down the toilet. They are sad and gloomy...that's not what 007 is.
He doesn't fall victim to "PC" dialogue.
"Filthy habit"
"Never argue with a woman...they're always right".
Can't see early Sean Connery saying that.
It actually started subtly and jokingly in GE with "Yes Sir".
I never liked "Filty habit" because Bond to me is a smoker. If they wanted to stop him smoking that was one thing, but him giving a lecturing comment on it was unacceptable and not Bondian. Bond wouldn't do that.
"Never argue with a woman...they're always right" is just wrong for Bond imo.
I'm glad it seems like they seem to be finally done with this whole angle now (The death of Dench's M hopefully finally kills it for good). Bond is Bond. Let the poor guy be Bond, misogyny and all imo.
I always took the 'Filthy habit' as a bit of an ironic quip and Brosnan delivers it in such a way. It's supposed to be a little tongue in cheek, not a lecturing comment.
Same with the 'Never argue with a woman', I don't think it emasculates him in any way, quite the opposite. I really don't see too much of this supposed 'PC' stuff that others suggest is creeping in. I just see it as an updating of the character. I don't know why one would actively make a character in the 21st century deliberately misogynistic. I don't get the logic. He should reflect a modern man. The only misogynists I know in this day and age are abhorrent people in general.
In Dalton & Brosnan's day they were trying too hard to clean him up and put him down (as if he had to explain his behaviour for the benefit of certain women - not all). That was not something I was happy with.
As I said, he's Bond - let him be Bond imo. We have enough PC fools in the Twilight, MI and other movies.
I didn't really get this impression, although my wife did once comment that Dalton's Bond was her favourite because he didn't treat women like shit. I always found this interesting, given that for most of us here he's regarded as very Flemingesque.
I don't think you need to worry, though. His scene with Severine was enough to suggest he's still a bit of an arsehole.
Exactly. I could tell he was back due to the Severine scenes and his scenes with MP in particular. Also his early Vesper scenes in CR.
Bond is a man's man imo who loves women but does not need to explain himself or his behaviour to them.
I think the key is, he shouldn't need to explain himself to anyone. At a push, 'M'.
:D Hehe, these quips were very firmly tongue-in-cheek and are typical stoic, British jibes. In no way are they 'PC', if anything the 'woman' line is actually pretty condescending..!
Yes I took it as an ironic joke, not Bond literally disapproving.
Funny how several of us have had a twine/dad reappraisal and now rank DAD higher. TWINE is truly awful.
Exactly.
In fact this reminds me of a discussion that was had a while ago re. Silva's entrance and verbal sparring with Bond. So many people got their knickers in a twist shouting 'PC' because they were assuming Mendes and the screenwriters were trying to bring a level of ambiguity to Bond's sexuality. Maybe these subtleties get lost in translation.
With Broz, the lines in themselves are ok I suppose. It's that in combination with him moping around on the beach (in GE) and in the hotel (in TND) and through most of the TWINE Electra scenes that made the lines stand out to me as being too PC (especially for the benefit of women in the audience). It's the whole thing.
That's why I say I liked him best in DAD, since he was more alpha-manly throughout the whole thing for once.
Yes, but Bros never actually fell in love. Dan falls for vesper in CR and convinces us he's really fallen head over heels . He's found what he wants - a woman he can spend the rest of his life with, so he can turn his back on his ghastly 'job'.
Dan is just a better actor. Conveys more in one scene than pierce does in an entire movie.
Is it that time of the month?
I know this is an old post but I'm quoting to shout YES(!) I want this to happen in this era.
Tight with money, tips etc, Then again many from poorer backgrounds
Are very careful with money.
What happened? While I can't stand his Bond, I've always had the impression that Brozzer the man is actually a pretty decent guy. There will always be the odd fan who comes away with a bad impression. And no one is perfect. But overall he has always struck me as okay.
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You didn't.
That's so gauche.
Me & my friends were on line for The Empire Strikes Back in 1980 in NY and we spotted Mark Goddard crossing the street near to us and someone in the line shouted "HEY! Major WEST!" He looked down & we grimaced at the shouter.
Actors are craftsmen. Imagine an architect being addressed as "HEY- Kennybunkport Bush house!" :))
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Danger, Will Robinson!
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