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Is Pierce Brosnan really all that bad ??

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  • JinxJinx
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    his voice isn't thin and reedy. fyi it's actually smooth as vanilla.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 7,584
    Vanilla.....looks thin and reedy to me

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  • JinxJinx
    Posts: 102
    "oh God you're even worse than your file says". tell me what looks thin and reedy about him?

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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,584
    His.Voice.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    What looks thin and reedy about him? That pic, for starters.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    He's beyond Bond now. Time to let him go. Let Pierce make rom-coms and films he enjoys. I must say his acting has improved in several of his films. But the accent hasn't.
    Where Connery can play Sean Connery in any role, Pierce has that Irish / American accent pop out all to often, and in Bond it was painfully obvious. Much like his painface.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm actually not that crazy about where Brosnan's career is at now. I miss his earlier post-Bond films, like 'Tailor of Panama', 'The Thomas Crown Affair', and 'The Matador'. These rom-coms don't impress me, and the only film that I was pretty interested in was 'St. Vincent', and now it is no longer on his IMDB filmography. Granted, IMDB is none too reliable, but still. I want him to do another raw, filthy character like Julian Noble, or someone with a unique secret, like Gideon in 'Seraphim Falls' or Richard Langley in 'Married Life'.
  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492
    He's beyond Bond now. Time to let him go. e.
    Amen to this. He has moved on so should his non/fans. I dont watch his era much because it doesnt interest me. But I accept he kept the franchise going - and at least deserves credit for that.

    I have never seen fandom divided so much since the Brosnan era. Back in the Rog Moore days there would be a letter to the JBBFC saying "I miss the seriousness of the early Connery films but it doesnt stop me enjoying the current films"

    That was as nasty as it got. But nowadays with Brosnan podders and CraignotBond its all become abit unpleasant.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    "oh God you're even worse than your file says". tell me what looks thin and reedy about him?

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    Well I'll say this much, he's by far the least intimidating and least physically imposing Bond. It looks like a stiff breeze could knock him over.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Pierce has that Irish / American accent pop out all to often, and in Bond it was painfully obvious.
    Why thank you @Benny. I'm not the only one who thinks this.
    "oh God you're even worse than your file says". tell me what looks thin and reedy about him?

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    Well I'll say this much, he's by far the least intimidating and least physically imposing Bond. It looks like a stiff breeze could knock him over.
    Indeed. As is always said, if all six Bonds were in a ring, Brosnan would be the first out.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited August 2011 Posts: 1,778
    Thanks @Jinx. And im sure someone will mention Roger Moore. But keep in mind Moore actually served in the Navy for a couple of years and was a policeman for a short amount of time. Like James Bond theres more to him than meets the eye.

    And I agree, Brosnan's voice always annoyed me. He sounded like he should be doing shampoo commercials not James Bond.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    I think the difference with Brosnan and Moore was that Brosnan had a youthfulness and could move quicker. Hence I think he would last SLIGHTLY longer in a fight than Moore. Take the scene when on the boat in GE when he fights that thug who runs up behind him? I never saw Moore do that. Seemed pretty convincing to me.
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    I think the difference with Brosnan and Moore was that Brosnan had a youthfulness and could move quicker. Hence I think he would last SLIGHTLY longer in a fight than Moore. Take the scene when on the boat in GE when he fights that thug who runs up behind him? I never saw Moore do that. Seemed pretty convincing to me.
    In Moore's defense I recently rewatched TMWTGG after several years and I was suprised how good he looked in the karate dojo scene. And he was 46 at the time. It was just his age and the fact that he did most of his films in his 50s. Still niether compare to a young Connery, Lazenby, or Craig in that dept.

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited August 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Still niether compare to a young Connery, Lazenby, or Craig in that dept.
    Agreed, all three would pummel both (and Dalton too I suspect).
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
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    Still niether compare to a young Connery, Lazenby, or Craig in that dept.
    Agreed, all three would pummel both (and Dalton too I suspect).
    Dalton's firmly in the middle. He'd hold his own or atleast last longer than Moore and Brosnan.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited August 2011 Posts: 11,189
    I think it would go like this:

    6. Moore
    5. Brosnan
    4. Dalton
    3. Connery
    2. Lazenby
    1. Craig

    We never saw Dalton in a full on no-holds-barred fight Connery or Craig style. I suppose that bar fight in kill was the closest we came.

    However he was pretty good in Hot Fuzz with Simon Pegg even though he got beaten.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I think it would go like this:

    6. Moore
    5. Brosnan
    4. Dalton
    3. Connery
    2. Lazenby
    1. Craig
    There's absolutely no way Lazenby would beat up Connery. Back then or now.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2011 Posts: 28,694
    David Blaine has once again made me double post. Ha ha you magical joker....
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited August 2011 Posts: 11,189
    It would be a close call that's for sure but I suspect a young Laz would edge it slightly. He did have a bit of martial arts training with Bruce Lee afterall.

    Back on topic.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    It would be a close call that's for sure but I suspect a young Laz would edge it slightly. He did have a bit of martial arts training with Bruce Lee afterall.

    Back on topic.
    Lazenby couldn't have handled Grant, that's for sure.

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    The thing is Connery almost lost too but only won thanks to Q's case.
  • JinxJinx
    Posts: 102
    Lazenby would have choked on dinner saving Grant the trouble. what an uncultured scoundrel.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2011 Posts: 28,694
    The thing is Connery almost lost too but only won thanks to Q's case.
    He didn't lose. A fight is not measured by its start but its finish. Bond was held by gunpoint, and the fight was made fair when Grant was disarmed. Then Connery won the fight, man to man.
  • JinxJinx
    Posts: 102
    However he was pretty good in Hot Fuzz with Simon Pegg even though he got beaten.
    he got impaled on a miniature and started crying about ice cream! once a pansy always a pansy.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited August 2011 Posts: 11,189
    The thing is Connery almost lost too but only won thanks to Q's case.
    He didn't lose. A fight is not measured by its start but its finish. Bond was held by gunpoint, and the fight was made fair when Grant was disarmed. Then Connery won the fight, man to man.
    The thing is if Q's case wasn't there or conveniently in his reach Connery would have probably been garotted by Grant.

    If you want a fight where Connery wins fair and square then the PTS of TB is the one to watch.

    We need to stop this argument :)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Agreed @BAIN123, I didn't mean anything by it. Just fun Bond banter! ;-)
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 15,169
    Gents this is veering off topic slightly. Let's leave who's dad could beat up the other alone and get back to the topic at hand.

    Was Pierce really that bad?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Gents this is veering off topic slightly. Let's leave who's dad could beat up the other alone and get back to the topic at hand.

    Was Pierce really that bad?
    We already settled matters if you looked at the above post. I know when a topic has gone off track. @BAIN and I were simply doing a comparison.
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
    Posts: 543
    I wonder if he breaks down everytime he hears people's positive feedback about Craig. Oh no! Creative juices are flowing! Here's how things could have happened in 2006 for Brosnan:

    Brosnan is roaming around and happens to pass by an unknowing couple. From a few feet away he takes in the conversation: "Hey, did you see the new Bond film this weekend?"
    "What? Casino Royale?"
    "Yeah."
    "No I haven't. Is it any good?"
    "Any good! Why it's one of the best of the series! Craig is amazing, much better than that guy from the show Rermington Stehle, or something like that. It doesn't matter."

    Brosnan looks to the man at afar and coughs *It was Remington Steele you ass*
    @BradyM0, this is just too funny. :-)) I can just picture those things happening to poor Pierce.
    Back to the topic. I didn't think PB was all that bad. Like a few mentioned, I also grew up on Brosnan as my Bond and I will always associated him as the one that got me into the series. Watching him is what I thought Bond would be like.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thanks for commenting so positively @Artemis! I too could see Remington Steele and Taffin used against poor Pierce. I am much a Brosnan Bond in the sense that I was born closest to the time of his films. I remember seeing the films as I was growing, but I never paid much attention to them. I was just a kid. Sean's GF got me into Bond, and then I was hooked. He steadfast became my favorite.
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