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Is Pierce Brosnan really all that bad ??

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  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Can mods delete the above post?

    I LOVE Bean's cold look as he shoots the scientists, but his delivery of "finish the job James, blow them all to hell" is dodgy". The more I pick through Bean's performance the more I realise his accent is all over the place.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited December 2015 Posts: 1,731
    chrisisall wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    What is it about the Brosnan era that makes the films feel so... generic? I can’t quite put my finger on it, it puzzles me.
    It was the 90's. A lot of movies from that era were trying to outdo the 80's whilst still evolving... this led to films of wildly uneven tone. Look at True Lies- a silly comedy? An adventure? And of course that affected the Bonds made subsequently since it was a thinly veiled Bond movie itself and another Cameron hit.

    Dunno, can we really blame it on the decade..? The 90's also gave us fresh, un-80's fare such as 'Ronin', 'Mission Impossible', 'Heat', 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' ... plenty of stylish, well made action thrillers from the 90's. But EoN somehow managed to almost parody the 1980's in Brosnan's films...
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    The Long Kiss Goodnight is really cheesy and quite tongue in cheek from what I remember. The 90s had Batman Forever, Under Siege, Air Force One, The Rock, Die Hard 2 and Face/Off. All of them are even sillier today than they were in the 90s
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
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    No, he wasn't that bad. On the contrary. But only two and a half of his movies proved his greatness as Bond.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    The Long Kiss Goodnight is really cheesy and quite tongue in cheek from what I remember. The 90s had Batman Forever, Under Siege, Air Force One, The Rock, Die Hard 2 and Face/Off. All of them are even sillier today than they were in the 90s

    Ouch... had forgotten about those :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    AceHole wrote: »
    What is it about the Brosnan era that makes the films feel so... generic? I can’t quite put my finger on it, it puzzles me.
    Some of that is on account of Brosnan himself imho. To my eyes, he had not fully transcended his tv persona at that point. It is only by the early 2000's that he started to do that for me, but his Bond run was almost over by that time.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    It's called having fuuuuuuuuuunnnn. X(
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    No! No fun allowed!
  • GoIdeneye007GoIdeneye007 USA
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    I think part of the Brosnan dislike is the fact he got some lackluster films. Goldeneye obviously is spectacular, but TND and WINE are just kinda meh. DAD of course we shall not speak of hah.

    As much as I would have loved to see Tim Dalton do GE, I'm happy Pierce got it because then Pierces run would have been REALLY bad.

    As bond though, I think he's great. I like his look and charisma.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    There's a time for work and a time for play and that includes working in the porn industry believe it or not ;)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Yeah a Bloody shame too. I wonder how people would treat Connery if all his films were like DAF. [-(
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TND is nearly flawless. That & GE are his best ones.
  • timmertimmer
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Yeah a Bloody shame too. I wonder how people would treat Connery if all his films were like DAF. [-(
    But.all his films are like DAF, brilliantly perfect.
    The Connery 6 pak Eon oeuvre is something to be treasured and savoured.
    Nothing better than watching all 6 films over 3-day 3x double-bill, with NSNA as bonus on the 4th day. DAF, not surprisingly, dovetails very nicely off the back of the epic YOLT.
    Actually pairing NSNA with Connery's turn as the villain in The Avengers, with Fiennes as Steed and Thurman as Peel, is a nice genre capper to the 4 day event.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I have grown to appreciate DAF over time. Connery is brilliant in it imho, although his approach is quite different to the earlier films, and his physical presentation certainly leaves something to be desired - that's what turned me off the most when younger, but now as I've gotten older I've become more forgiving of this.
  • shamanimalshamanimal
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    TND is nearly flawless. That & GE are his best ones.

    Yup. TND is in my top ten. It ticks all the Bond movie boxes. Like Spectre.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    shamanimal wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    TND is nearly flawless. That & GE are his best ones.

    Yup. TND is in my top ten. It ticks all the Bond movie boxes. Like Spectre.
    I'd say it does a better job with the box ticking than SP actually. It's pure formula. No pretensions, no retcons, just good old fashioned Bond fun. They definitely did it better in the 60's/80's imho, but TND is probably the last fun Bond film EON made.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I dunno; I thought SP was fun...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    It was notably and intentionally more fun than the other Craig films definitely, but there were still some dark themes underlying the narrative (author of pain, brother resentment etc.) although characters brushed them aside.

    TND thematically was more consistent for me. It knew what it wanted to be and it just went 100% full speed ahead in that direction. It's not a top 10 for me because I have issues with other aspects (casting/acting etc.) but I applaud its consistency.
  • mepal1mepal1
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    There was no false pretentions with TND, the film just set out to be a high-octane, action thriller, and on that level it succeeded.
    Certainly a more enjoyable effort that the next film TWINE.....zzzzz.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    DRush76 wrote: »
    There was nothing wrong with Pierce Brosnan's portrayal of Bond. He was just fine. It has always been traditional with many Bond fans to bash the previous Bond. Roger Moore went through the same crap, when Dalton was Bond. And Dalton went through the same when Brosnan was Bond. This little tradition is really getting annoying.


    I fully agree witn this.
    But i think this sad situation happens because of hype and its the brand new Bond.

    its like having a new toy which is your favorite till the new one comes out.
    But yes the 6 were great in their own way and one each brought something different.

    Its ok to your favorites i do have mine
    Those are Pierce Brosnan, Sean Connery and Daniel Craig but i do like the other three very much as well.







  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    TND worked because it was formulaic & tailor-made for Brosnan. They dropped the edginess (which Brosnan cannot really handle) from GE and were not hampered by the forced melodrama of what was to come in TWINE.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    He handled edge just fine.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited December 2015 Posts: 1,731
    Murdock wrote: »
    He handled edge just fine.

    With respect, that depends on what your expectations of a Bond's acting abilities are.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    AceHole wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He handled edge just fine.

    With respect, that depends on what your expectations of a Bond's acting abilities are.

    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D

    I have sent a worry note to your shrink.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He handled edge just fine.

    With respect, that depends on what your expectations of a Bond's acting abilities are.

    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D
    He & Dalton are both perfect in very different ways IMO.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D

    I have sent a worry note to your shrink.
    Wrong one!
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Murdock wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D

    I have sent a worry note to your shrink.
    Wrong one!
    tumblr_n461wd4LS91qfr6udo1_500.gif
    Uh...uhhh..Oi...

    Did you just shrink my mind?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D

    I have sent a worry note to your shrink.
    Wrong one!
    tumblr_n461wd4LS91qfr6udo1_500.gif
    Uh...uhhh..Oi...

    Did you just shrink my mind?

    Well...hmmm...Are you a Pierce fan yet? :P
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Murdock wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Well I sure saw perfection out of Brosnan. He is the best Bond after all. :D

    I have sent a worry note to your shrink.
    Wrong one!
    tumblr_n461wd4LS91qfr6udo1_500.gif
    Uh...uhhh..Oi...

    Did you just shrink my mind?

    Well...hmmm...Are you a Pierce fan yet? :P

    Duh...oink...Pierceuhh?

    He the best!
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