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One thing I really didn't like is when they remade the GoldenEye 007 game and cast Daniel Craig... at the very least it should have been a generic Bond persona in respect for the Brosnan era.
Didn't the Russians and the Cold War also feature in GoldenEye?
Strangely enough the same thing happened to me over Christmas as well. Quite enjoyed it. They could have used Renard's strange affliction more creatively, but otherwise it was ok.
Well i think that aspect Pierce Nailed is the one i find the most important in Bond and that's big part of why Pierce is my favorite.
And even if his scripts werent the best his films as Bond are still very fun and full of action so that for me compensastes the lack of depth and maybe its a justficcation many Pierce fans use but if Pierce didn't have great scripts and were much more action based its because the times asked for it.
I totally get that.
We live in a different world than in the 20th... we grew up expecting a lot, then we got less...
I know. Don't get me wrong, I like Craig's Bond, but it seems like the culture as a whole, not just in regards to Bond, but to all cinema, TV, and even video games, is so obsessed with seriousness, grit, and "realism" that it can't have fun anymore. Anytime a movie or show does something fun and/or over the top, it's criticized for being "cliched" and "outdated". Apparently we're all to grown up for that now. Sometimes I wonder if, somewhere down the line, the Bond movies are going to have to stop trying to appeal to the masses and become a cult franchise, if they are to retain any sense of the fun that makes Bond, Bond.
Story of my generation... raised by baby-boomers, I then naturally expected to have the same kind of life. See how that turned out.
He wasn't perfect but he's a better image of Fleming's bond portrait than Craig is atm. Craig is in better bond movies that's the difference.
On the other hand anyone saw Daniel Craig interviews? He's by far the clumsiest and most awkward of all Bond!
Little substance, often troll like.
It gets tiresome very quickly in case you haven't noticed.
Why not look at some of the longstanding threads, where you can rate the actors, films and books. And give reasons as to why you feel the way you do about Bond.
Too much negativity makes it awfully dull. Just a thought.
Brosnan is the worst Bond is the worst movies. He was neither as smooth as Moore or as suave as Connery. You need to read the books as Craig (bar the blonde hair and not being 6 ft) is very much like Fleming's depiction. Craig is a better actor, that's the difference.
Well said, and Craig is anything but suave his performance is sometimes a cross between a thug and a bulldozer.
Who is the better actor?- That depends on which movies you prefer but Brosnan has more of actor glamour style from the 40's & 50's. A kind of class which is difficult to find these days.
I agree but also have to disagree. Bond was so cool back in the day, and Pierce Brosnan is arguably the most popular Bond of them all. Pierce made Bond cool again. Sure the films weren't anything spectacular take away GE and pre-dive scene TND, but they weren't unsuccessful by any means.
Mainly, TWINE, like QOS, is too generic IMHO, while DAD brings the comic book element to the max. I have a hunch that in 5-10 years and another generation of viewers, DAD could gain a cult following.
But even if I don't take that into account, Pierce made a great Bond. The way he moves across the screen oozes elegance. He also has a commanding and self-confident presence, even with cliched lines or silly gags. For instance, look at Craig struggling with the "Bond, James Bond" and "shaken not stirred" lines in SP, compare that to Pierce's deliveries of those lines to Elektra and the casino bartender in TWINE.
Pierce continued the tradition of the suave, elegant gentleman spy with commanding confidence or as Valentin would say: charming, sophisticated secret agent. Something I have been dearly missing in this century so far.
That said, despite his lightweight build sometimes I think he had a strong presence about him on camera.
He looks closer to Fleming's description of Bond than Craig does but that's really it in terms of his resemblance to Fleming.
That said, had they toned down the overall cheesiness in the writing I think Broz could have been a lot closer.
Broz still seems to be the more popular figure away from the series.
Brosnan on the other hand responded more to the blockbusters and appeal of Hollywood, and as a result has made a decent career of it.
"James Bond: James Bond is a blunt instrument wielded by a Government Department. He is quiet, hard, ruthless, sardonic, fatalistic. In his relationships with women he shows the same qualities as he does in his job, but he has a certain gentleness with them and if they get into trouble he is sometimes prepared to sacrifice his life to rescue them. But not always, and certainly not if it interferes with his job. He likes gambling, golf, and fast motor cars."
"Neither Bond nor his Chief, M, should initially endear themselves to the audience. They are tough, uncompromising men and so are the people who work for and with them."
Ian Fleming.
Ignoring raw acting talent.....Style and glamour of the 50's and 60's would be Daniel Craig. He looks quite a lot like Steve McQueen and has the same presence. Brosnan is hardly in the same class as Niven & Grant.....only in a dream world.
I don't agree that Craig has the style and glamour of the 50's and 60's though. He is definitely a 21st century thug in a suit. He physically looks like McQueen in some ways, but Steve had a certain classic style to him.
He was the leader of a street gang, carried a gun everywhere, smoked weed every day, was a motorcycle and race-car driver, ran away to join the circus at one stage and was arrested on a number of occasions. Even his police mugshot is effortlessly cool and with just a hint of a smirk while flashing the peace sign at the arresting officer. He wasn't the usual clean cut leading man type.
And The Tailor of Panama.
Very fair comment @0Brady.
Timothy and Pierce both continue to do varied work in all sorts of genres, especially the latter, and it's them that are the real interesting ones to watch post-Bond. Dan hasn't hit post-Bond yet, so he doesn't really count.