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Same! I think it’s fair to say that, in general, as time passes Skyfall keeps falling down the rankings while QOS keeps rising. Skyfall’s flaws just become so apparent with more views and QOS’s flaws have become quite forgivable.
Shame they missed QOS but no real surprise considering the way that film is regarded outside the fanbase.
Although the fact they didn't consider a ltd re-release of OHMSS for it's 50th is even worse in my book.
Now if they could do OHMSS in concert that would be like a dream come true, the fact they've done SW, ESB, ET & Jurassic Park, surely someone can take on conducting Barry's Bond masterpiece in sinc with the film?
Anyway I digress.
QOS of my well raise in the fanbase rankings but it's fair to say SF will sustain it's position with the general public.
This film is like GF, SWLM & GE, it's going to be continued to be loved by the general public for years to come.
That being said I think on here the SF detractors just shout louder than it's fans which give it the impression of it's stock dropping. Possibly SF isn't as derieded here as it's dissenters would have us believe.
I still love the film as I did on original release and can't wait to soak it up on the big screen with a live orchestra at the end of the year
I must admit that I'm in the same boat as @The_Bleeding_Heart. QOS has a surprising rewatchability, perhaps because the fast pace and epileptic editing made me miss so much the first ten times, the film just keeps giving. ;-)
In truth, though, QOS presents a lot of images I love and a James Bond who is confident and almost undefeatable. The whole "you might be too old for this game" thing from SF angers me a bit; it came much too soon in Craig's career as Bond and now we're stuck with a 007 who has already suffered a midlife crisis of sorts.
Overall, while QOS felt like a botched project the first time I watched the film, it has grown on me--tremendously. SF has more or less stayed the same. I'm not saying that makes QOS the better film for me, but it is the more rewatchable IMO, and not just because of the shorter feature length.
I just think with the editing so frenetic, the boat sequence improved, no sink hole CGI nonsense and a bit more space to breathe with some more scenes like the ones between Bond and Mathis. The film would have been much better, I don't agree that the length is right, I think this would have been better sitting at the 1.50 - 2hr mark personally but that is me.
That being said it sits inside my top 10 and I much rather watch it than LTK, the film I find it has the most in common, it sticks to it's guns and maintains it's tone, unlike Dalton's 2nd film.
SF is more the plot holes but hell I'm having such fun watching it and it totally engages me that I can forgive it. SF for me despite some small issues is a blast and I don't get the it's too long comments one bit.
Mendes for me made a cracking film but it should have been a one shot deal with him.
Total guilty pleasure. I love it. Such a unique style, its something different for sure.
Great action film, girls, I actually like the music (Greene’s party music), the opera scene was really well put together. The car chase is one of the greatest car chases of all time.
Seeing the car chase in theaters, you felt like you were sitting in the passenger seat.
👏👏👏👏
Not subtle...but I would have to agree.
Regarding Q and Moneypenny, I thought they were much better in SP.
Moneypenny came across as trying too hard and Q as not trying hard enough!
The action is pretty poor throughout apart from parts of the pts, and the scene where Bond turns the tables on his captors. It has grown on me a little, but it will never better QOS in my estimation, which just gets better and better with every viewing. Dare I say it is seriously challenging CR as Craig's best Bond!
Agree with your comments on SF. It's a clumsy film.
Always nice to hear QOS has gained credibility with people. I must be one of the few who really enjoyed it first time round. Forster is a talented director and although flawed, QOS is for me probably the best of the Craig era. Definitely the film that has the most rewatch value.
QOS could have been a decent Bond film. I'm not complaining about the plot, as many do, just because it seems to be "only" about a country's water supply. But the finished product could have been so much better. The car chase in the beginning as well as the chase in Siena are a complete waste, IMO. I wish they'd do a re-cut, really. And make it 20 minutes longer.
In comparison, I still think SKYFALL is truly the best Bond movie since FRWL (with GF and CR also sharing my personal top tier, but still). It's the Bond film I enjoyed most at a cinema (Odeon Leicester Square on public day one, by the way, and later in Hamburg), and the only one where there were actually ovations by the crowd in certain scenes (like the appearance of the old DB5, and to hell with continuity). I left the cinema in a really enthustiastic state, and had the feeling that so did many others.
Or in short: QOS 7/10 (benevolently), SF 9/10.