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Nutz doesn't begin to describe it :))
A handgun brings down a helicopter. From a distance.
C'mon.
Bond.
Of course Bond is Bond and should be able to do almost everything when saving the world but we should at least see him struggle on the way doing that. We should feel the danger and see how people are affected by either Bond's or the villain's action. In Spectre, however, nobody really seem to care about anything. A car chase is not intense when there are only two cars on the road, a train fight is not that natural if there do not seem to be any other passengers on the train. For me this makes the film a little lifeless. There should be some threat that I was just missing in that film. And where other Bond films offer creative and sometimes even convincing solutions of how Bond escapes a dangerous situation, Spectre offers too little (just think of the diappointing escape from the crater).
It was still one shot that brought it down. Bond shot at a helicopter multiple times in TWINE, did that bring it down?
If there had to be a helicopter in the finale, I would have Bond fire a signal flare into the helicopter to make a homage to AVTAK. It would have also been more believable.
I agree with a lot of this. There's train passengers that just disappear without a shot of seen them scatter, he escapes from the base with absolutely no problem, and somehow he knowshwhere M's safe house is. There's ONE care out in Rome and they run into it. Just a lot of stuff that takes the air out of an awesome first part of the picture.
I like the film based on the strength of an awesome opening, but there's an awful lot of flaws afterward.
I strongly advise you never to watch any Bond movie of the Moore era, or DAF, or LTK, or DAD, or QOS, or SF, especially SF. Or TLD, or even YOLT, or GE, or TWINE.
Have fun with Dr. No >:)
More so if it's a new actor and they do a soft reboot because they inevitably cut the budget in these instances due to higher risks with the new guy. So story becomes all important
Even iIf it's Craig again, although the approach may be similar, I'm sure the script will be much tighter next time around. Count on it.
As usual spot on.
I too believe the next Bond will be more down-to-earth. Like FYEO after MR for instance.
Cubby and Barbara and Michael seldom or never did the same thing twice in a row.
Maybe the most similar back to back movies are TB-YOLT, TSWLM-MR, GE-TND.
It could go in the FRWL direction or the FYEO direction or maybe another QOS like movie (with proper editing of course).
If Craig can still convince being tough and good in hand-to-hand combat I would like to see another QOS like movie.
If Keanu Reeves can kick ass big time as John Wick at his age, then Craig should be able as well.
In any case, I will be happy, even if they should decide to do another GE-SP type of movie. They are my No 1 and 2 :)
But for the franchise something different would be better.
2. SF
3. CR
4. FRWL
5. SWLM
6. TLD
7. LTK
8. TB
9. QOS
10. GF
11. DN
12. YOLT
13. SPECTRE
14. FYEO
15. MR
16. MWTGG
17. LALD
18. OP
19. VTAK
20. GE
21. TND
22. DAF
23. TWINE
24. DAD
I shocked myself with my ranking of SPECTRE, I didn't think it would rank so low but the childhood connection, the lame ring scanning plot element as well as a dull flat finale has to justify it's placing for me.
13?!?!?!?! The way you talk about it, one could think it's No24 :P
It's actually a great list. OHMSS (My No 3) is simply perfect, I wish I had seen this in the cinema, it probably would then be my No 1.
Dalton is my No 1 Bond and TLD was my first cinematic experience although I was too young back then. Both Dalton Bonds in your Top 10, good boy :))
FRWL and GF are the best of Connery's imo as well and just have to be in the Top 10.
CR naturally belongs in any Top 5.
Seeing that list, it now makes more sense that Spectre is your No 13 and not higher, with Moore and Brosnan being by far your least liked Bonds.
:))
An Aston that doesn't have a self destruct mechanism? If that was all that was wrong with the film then it would be the best Bond of all.
If that winds you up how do you feel about the step brother reveal?
Presume you rate CR as a travesty also because that Aston is left a wreck in a field instead of self destructing?
There's plenty wrong with SP but that's pretty desperate nitpicking for nitpicking's sake.
Also the secret room does have a door. You can see the door frame when Bond walks through. Given how much of the rest of the screenplay I have to write myself to fill in the holes I reckon that either Mr White made the secret room then the owners died in an 'accident' so the new owners don't know it exists or he just paid the owner to rent that room as his own on a permanent basis hence the bookshelf with the bottle of vodka stashed.
Exactly. I don't know how any anal retentive person could possibly enjoy Bond, whose very essence is extremely far-fetched.
Quite. Fascinating what seems to bug certain people.
As I was watching MR last night--admittedly, not the best test case--I put the film under strict scrutiny in certain sections, and unsurprisingly, found "plot holes," inconsistencies, and shrieking unlikelihoods galore. The simple reality is that one is supposed to suspend disbelief to a certain degree when watching most films, and in particular Bond films. If you go into a Bond film hoping to catch out irregularities then you really don't understand what Bond films are all about.
That film hooked me in and the contrivances and holes didn't bother me. Bond surviving the fall, Silva's scheme etc. For me the film had an emotional resonance, tension and a compelling factor. The previous Craig entries had this, SPECTRE entirely lacked this.
Maybe previous Bond entries had that safe element and going forward especially the Moore era and even elements in Tim's and especially Brosnan's where we never thought Bond wouldn't escape the situation he was in.
With Craig in Casino Royale it came established that Bond would seem more uncertain and not so confident of getting out of a tight spot unlike previous era's of the character. Craig's Bond just doesn't work making him look invincible and lacking uncertainty and giving him gadgets to get out of the situation renders him nothing special.
If they wanted to revert to this cosy inevitability then they should of waited till they recast Bond, his version now seems redundant and the very thing that established his take on the character is gone.
Wanting familarity and all the tropes that came with the universal acceptance that Craig had started to convince the world was not necessary anymore its no wonder a good number of people have commented he looks bored in the role.
This might be a misconception but its not what makes Craig's Bond 007. Just because it works for other incarnations of the character it doesn't for Craig. Unless he can re-establish his hard edged persona he lacked in SP I'd rather see him resign than watch him continue down this path thank you.
To search for plot holes is kind of senseless.
It's another matter if a film wants to be all serious and realistic (SF).
1) OHMSS
2) TLD
3) CR
4) LTK
5) GF
6) FRWL
7) SPECTRE
8) OP
9) QoS
10)FYEO
Having viewed SP on blu-ray twice since release, I don't see my list changing!
Oh, hey, I have 9 out of 10 of the same movies in my TOP 10!! :)