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Quite. Despite Bond's flaws, he is a fundamentally good person, being courageous and incorruptible. To me that is what makes the Bond persona so diverting. The dichotomy of the good/bad conflict.
You're being short-sighted. Khan is right. Underneath it all there's a man doing what he thinks is right. Bond didn't like killing in the books, but he knew it had to be done. He's not a see you next Tuesday. Never has been, never will.
Being an assassin doesn't mean one cannot be good. It depends upon the cause behind the assassination. I contend that Bond, going all the way back to Fleming's Casino Royale, is a fundamentally good person.
Totally agree.
Bond is an assassin that does good things.
But he is an anti-hero.
Spectre certainly didn't feel fresh in the way that CR did. However, if you look critically at the whole series you can level a lot of these criticisms at other Bond movies too.
Spectre may seem to copy from previous movies, but SWLM is a re-run of YOLT, MR is a redo of SWLM, DAD is a redo of DAF, AVTAK copies GF etc.
There are probably a lot of points in Spectre where people can feel it could be better, but I wonder if people tend to be as critical about the other Bond movies.
Doing good things and being a good man are two different things. Unless you just see things in black and white, in which case this is a redundant conversation.
As Bond is constantly on a war footing defending Queen and country. He is a good man
who when needed does what's needed, he is the " Blunt instrument " .
I think the point is that Bond isn't supposed to be some cheerful chap, Moore and Brosnan might have played it that way and to some degree Connery but Craig has been about showing a more layered and conflicted Bond.
In reality Bond wouldn't be wise cracking playboy and Dalton was just as moody as Craig if not more so because he has no ability to display humour, at least Craig can deliver dead pan lines capably.
Craig is fine with the more subtle humour but shackling with some of P&W awful oneliners in SPECTRE was a mistake, that "doesn't time fly" line is atrotious.
Craig is much better suited to "yes considerably", "what if I felt compelled to" or "time to get out", he delivers those lines confidently but attempting cheese is not his area and the desire to make him more classic Bond was done with all the subtelty of a sledgehammer by those 2 hacks that should never be allowed near Bond again.
Before Bond Craig was an acclaimed character actor, you can tell those that spout he's ltd and wooden have no idea of his previous work. I'd like to see someone say that after witnessing him play Geordie Peacock in Our Friends In The North.
I'm quite looking forward to seeing him play roles with more range like he did before, I'm hoping this upcoming TV show he's signed up for will show those who don't know what range the man has, Bond has unfortunatley convinced some he's one note.
True. At least to some. ;) Like you & I.
Which goes this way
Huge favorites
1 The world is not enough
2 Goldeneye
3 Die another day
4 Tomorrow never dies
5 Dr No
6 Thunderball
7 Goldfinger
8 Skyfall
9 Casino Royale
10 SPECTRE
Love
11 The living Daylights
12 From Russia with Love
13 Quantum
14 The Spy who loved me
15 licence to kill
16 on her Majesty's secret service
Like very much
17 Moonraker
18 You only live twice
19 Diamonds are forever
20 for your eyes only
Mehh
21 Octopussy
22 The man with the golden gun
23 A view to kill
24 live and let die
=D>
@Szonana
You're unique and I'm glad you are here. :)
Thanks so much to both @JasonBond and @Chrisisall fir accepting my weird taste when it comes to Bond. Lol
No seriously im glad you liked my top 10 but i think we all are unique in our own way
You're certainly right and I also think that Craig is a very good actor. I think it is a matter of expectations. For me the gritty and emotional Bond character works very well in Casino Royal and Skyfall and even in QoS (even though I dislike the latter). But in Spectre it is somehow ... I don't know... cold blooded but also funny.
I am also more into the cinematic Bond who had been probably different from the moody Bond Flemming created. Everyone has certainly a different view on that because we all prefer a different type of Bond and that's fine.
About Dalton: Well I think his performances are somewhat different. IMO in TLD he is closer to Brosnan than Craig whereas he is closer to Craig in LTK. In TLD you see him having a lot of fun in Vienna and there are some funny sequences (Cello). He is also very charming in that film. I found this character to be very similar to the one portayed by Brosnan in Golden Eye.
Let's find out...
I give the 1st act 9 out of 10
I give the 2nd act 9 out of 10
I give the 3rd act 7 out of 10
9/10 + 9/10 + 7/10 = 25/30
25/30 ÷ 3 = 8.3/10
That's rights, I give SPECTRE:
8.3/10
Quite simply, SPECTRE delivers on Skyfall's promises.
Act 1: 8/10
Act 2: 7/10
Act 3: 7/10
Act 4: 5/10
Act 1: 8/10
Act 2: 8/10
Act 3: 8/10
Act 4: 8/10
Let's do some quick math:
8/10 + 8/10 + 8/10 + 8/10 = 32/40
32/40 ÷ 4 = 8/10
So you would SPECTRE about the as I would. Interesting.
Anyway:
Act 1 - Gunbarrel to Mr. White - 8/10
Act 2 - Clinic to Train Fight - 9/10
Act 3 - Moroccan Crater Base to End Credits - 5/10
22/30, which seems low but I am harsh on my movies.
to me the film is 9/10 up until the final twenty minutes with the old mi6 building. That seemed very cliched to me. From when Bond gets to the Building, to when he is holding the gun to Blofeld's head, I feel like I have seen that section in 1000 other films before. I wished they had been a bit smarter, a bit braver, and had more of a low-key, thriller type ending. I don't think their was a need for more action at the end, the film is already action packed as it is.
Anyway, with a different ending SPECTRE would be a 9/10. As it is, it's a 8.3/10.
Act 1 - Gunbarrel to Mr. White - 9/10
(this part of the film is probably as good as any Bond film)
Act 2 - Clinic to Train Fight - 6/10
(this part is redeemed only by L'Americaine and perhaps the actual Hinx fight - but not the buildup. Otherwise I'd rank it even lower. The clinic is awfully dull, and the chase in the Alps is a textbook way on how to blow money while dulling the senses)
Act 3 - Moroccan Crater Base to End Credits - 3/10
(not much to say here. This part of the film just collapses for me. From that Omega advertising torture scene to the end. - I've actually not been able to get to the very end during my two blu ray watches without tuning out the entire London sequence).
9+6+3=18/30. My current Spectre rank out of 24 is 17.
Perfectly reviewed!
I also think that the third act is probably the most important one in any film. I can accept an inperfect and even a boring second act if a great third act is yet to come. The thrd act is also the last thing you see in the film.
The whole setting in the destroyed MI6 headquarters is eerie, tense and visually bloody great.
PTS and title sequence
10/10
everything to and including Rome
10/10
that's where SF failed miserably, everything after the PTS up to Macau is boring.
Austria
10/10
OHMSS and GE redux, bloody brilliant
L'Americain
10/10
The hotel, the mouse, Swann, the room, a classic already
The Train/train station
10/10
one of the best sequences of the franchise
Meeting Blofeld in the meteor room/villain's lair
10/10
at last we get a classic villain's lair that Ken Adam would be proud of.
Waltz is spectacular and puts every other Blofeld to shame, especially parodic YOLT Blofeld.
The destruction of the base is bloody fantastic.
London
9.5/10
The perfect contrast in every way to the desert setting. M shines in this sequence.
The building is visually stunning and has a great atmosphere.
Bond chasing the helicopter is great and the bridge scene is such a great setting to "end" Blofeld.
The very last scene in the Aston Martin may just be the best ending ever in a Bond movie.
In short, the movie is bloody perfect, there have not been many of that kind in the franchise. Also performance wise.
I can only think of GF, FRWL, OHMSS and TSWLM who seem to be iconic and classic from start to finish. From the "newer" ones I'd include GE.
Act 2- austria- morocco before train
Act 3- train- base
Act 4- london
Oh very good. I still think that's a curious way to divide the movie honestly.
GF and GE were definitely great from start to finish. Never let you down whilst watching.