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Even new math doesn't elevate SP beyond 24 for me.
I don't hate it ...really want to like it. It's Bond after all.
I poorly managed (produced) and misdirected (directed) film.
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With smiley it's funny, without it's rude. And some people are that touchy that it's better to indicate when it's supposed to be funny.
Do I read this correctly @mcdonbb you rank Spectre No 24? which is the bottom of the list.
He thought the other Craig films were boring too for the same reason and wishes Bond films were more like the Brosnan films.
I felt like tearing my hair out
~X(
I hope you have some hair left.
I agree on OHMSS, CR could have done with some things omitted.
SF is way too long, after the PTS up to Macau it should have been 15 minutes.
'Bloody perfect'?
Adding up your scores it seems to be 0.5 of a mark away from being perfect.
Anyway this seems as good a way to rank the film as any as it allows you to give credit to the good parts while being able to pin the blame on where it all went wrong.
Act 1 - PTS to end of Rome: 8.5/10
Pretty damn good throughout. Loses a few marks for Mendes' pretentiousness, the 'C' naming scene which I've still not seen a logical explanation for (except as the set up to the gag with M at the end) and the phoning MP in the middle of the somewhat disappointing car chase.
Act 2 - Austria to the station in the desert: 8.5/10
Again extremely solid. Only real gripe is that the plane sequence as the big action set piece for the film really had to be a lot better. Would've liked a bit more banter walking through Tangier and on the train with Madeline to strengthen the relationship.
Act 3 - Crater to the end: 5/10
Love most of Blofeld's lair stuff. Was overjoyed with finally seeing the torture from Colonel Sun on screen but after that it's a bit of a shambles. The brother angle is complete bullshit, the escape and destruction of the base extremely poor and the 'climax' in London is as dull as it is shoddily written. And then just to annoy you further they can't resist once again reaching for the goddam DB5 like a baby grabbing for its mother's tit.
Total: 22/30 - Solidly top half of the table but never really in the battle for the champions league places.
I'd like to rank this segment higher but depsite a great PTS ( I still enjoy the previous PTS more, CR is my favourite). I hate that bloody song so marks lost there. The whole C thing is pretty rubbish, the character has all the subtlety of a sledgehammer. Bond's dialogue with Q is good but why oh why more DB5??
The rome segment is great till we get the uneventful car chase, QOS one is so much better. Bond and White's meeting is great but a bit more meat on the bones and it could have been a real classic.
Act 2 - Clinic to Train Fight - 5/10
The clinic is fine, dialogue between Bond and Swann is enjoyable but no Bond & Vesper moment. The plane chase utter rubbish like something out of the Brosnan era, infact the wildly up and down tone of SPECTRE reminds me of Brozzers most jarring entry TWINE, that couldn' make up it's mind what it wanted to be, SP has this problem as well. L'America scene is fine enough. Train fight is good but no FRWL moment here depsite the build up that was generated round this scene, didn't quite have the WOW factor and Hinx's one and only line of dialogue is just plain dumb.
Act 3 - Moroccan Crater Base to End Credits - 2/10
This segment is without doubt one of the worse moments of the Craig era. Moroccan segment is plain dull and the torture chair sequence has some awful dialogue and the ease of Bond's escape robs Craig of his edge, in a desire to make him classic Bond and Moore like it's just lacks tension entirely. Though one scene with no suspense is enough they follow it with a scene which is even worse. That awful photo copies of previous adversaries just in case you haven't worked it out all ready and then climaxing with a generic action sequence that see's Bond so easily win the day. Also taking the DB5 and riding off with Swann was pretty lame.
At the moment it's hanging outside the top 10 for me but in the light of my disappointment and issues I can see it dropping more once I've done another reappraisal of the series which I'm inclined to do at some point. SPECTRE is undoubtably the weakest film of the Craig era and this one thing I wasn't expecting this time last year when I was getting hyped up for the film.
Act 2 - Clinic to Train Fight - 9/10
Act 3 - Moroccan Crater Base to End Credits - 8/10
The only thing I didn't care for was the exchange between M and C at the CNS building. Not terrible, but Purvis and Wade shine through in certain parts of the dialogue. Everything else, MI6, Thames chase, is top notch.
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You are in the same boat now that I am with Skyfall.
Luckily we are a small minority with our views which the success of both movies prove.
But if you don't like one or two or even three movies out of 24 in the same franchise then it's not that bad :)
Which I feel is very obviously translated in the film. To not like it is fine. To not understand it is baffling.
Spectre's plot is indeed one of the most straight forward and easily understandable of the franchise. And believable as well.
No stupid personal vendetta against M or grudge against MI6.
Awww you hid your smilie :o3
If you hate a movie, your thoughts start straying perhaps?
Very possible, although I think most under 10's could watch the film and adequately express the concept of 'Nine Eyes' post viewing.
That, or snapchatting pictures of themselves - 'In da Bond fillm Lolz! Wot iz even goin on m8?!!!'
Dear oh dear. It seems you need to recalibrate the height of your notches because it's not even close to being bottom notch. The Thames chase is so poor it exists in some special subterranean notch near the earths core.
If I had to give Craig's films a letter grade, it would look something like this:
CR: A+
QOS: C+
SF: B+
SP: C-
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Honestly, witticisms are not that hard if you give it some thought.
:D
Yep. And the plot has a true Fleming feel to it. I think Ian approves.