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Half sleep lol well said, he does sound like that. May be bond and moneypenny finally got intimate that explains why he was a bit jealous in Rome car chase while on phone.
That could be 20 years away.
Good place to have it.
No 10 years from the film is released for skyfall in 2022 and for Spectre in 2025 especially when next bond arrives presumably in 2022 when bond films will celebrate 60 years.
They made that DB10 car chase look SLOW (even Bond gets so bored that he makes a phone call to the office mid-chase); the twist with the villain was a bad idea and a poor retcon that finally broke Daniel Craig’s movies from the official series timeline (before Spectre, all his other Bond Films could have existed on the same timeline, with CR and QoS as a prequel, and SF as a sequel to DAD); Bond does idiotic things the character wouldn’t ever do, like risking the lives of thousands of people in Mexico, the whole plane car-chase in Austria that in reality wouldn’t have worked out, or delivering himself unarmed to the villain but with no plan of action at all?
It’s in place #13 in my list.
1. Counter Intelligence : as in gathering information by establishing new world order program Nine Eyes(Information is all).
2. Terrorism: Mentioned by Tanner attacks in Hamburg/Tuinisia(North Africa) which makes sense they would go to Tangier and Sahara desert & also Mexico.
3. Revenge: I will take revenge because daddy loved bond more than me.
4. Extortion: On South Africa to join the Nine Eyes motion.
Where did it go wrong?
None of these points worked particularly well, IMO.
The thing is, even as a lot of Spectre really frustrated me, it was still entertaining all the way through and some of the action sequences really really got me.
I just took issue with some of the way the plot was handled, the torture scene's ambiguities, and the need to connect things that probably didn't need to be so explicitly connected. Can't really go deeper without spoiling anything. But there was also kind of a nastiness to it - the scene with Mr. White, the tone of the torture, etc. - that was jarring compared to how over the top a lot of it was.
It's by far the most polarized bond film for me, but I am struck by how not one of the Craig films has really fallen flat for me the way some of the Brosnan ones did. I think the fact that the new series relies on having very intense action sequences and layered intrigue-based plots makes it very watchable even at its least inspired - whereas the reliance on gadgets to solve problems in some of the Brosnan ones make it less fun for me to rewatch. Say what you will about Spectre's plot issues, you get to see a helicopter fight above a crowd. There's a lot of vintage Bond moments even if it didn't hold together for me. If anything, I'd probably love it if it had been a little less ambitious in terms of twists and retconning and had just kept the bare bones of the plot and worked on its own terms instead of as the movie that "explains" everything.
So it would probably still be higher than average on my list of overall Bond films, but it didn't do it for me as much as the last few.
Below Golden Gun and above Moonraker.
Could I possibly view SP (and consequently the entire Craig era) more favourably depending on how I end up perceiving B25? Maybe. I'm not sure. We shall see.
My ranking of Craig as a Bond actor could also improve, but only slightly. He was always #3 for me and then dropped to #4 behind Dalton recently. He could possibly move back up to #3 after B25, but I don't see any further improvement. After 11 odd years, I've pretty much formed my impressions of him in the role, and any adjustments are likely to be moderate at best.
And if you look at the history of Bond, apart from a modest Moore renaissance with FYEO and OP, you'd be forgiven for think that EON usually only revitalizes the brand with a new face.
Having said that, I believe B25 will be quite special. I base that on nothing but unscientific gut feel.
23. QOS
22. TMWTGG
22. AVTAK
21. SP