Where would you rank SPECTRE? (no spoilers)

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Interesting list, @BondJasonBond006. :-)

    It's surprising to say the least to see you put DAD above such films as DN, TB, SF and YOLT, but okay. :)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited November 2015 Posts: 9,020
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Interesting list, @BondJasonBond006. :-)

    It's surprising to say the least to see you put DAD above such films as DN, TB, SF and YOLT, but okay. :)

    Behind every film there is a personal story that explains why it gets ranked as it is, I'm sure that's the same with everybody.

    If I would rank all Bond movies objectively (if such a thing is even possible) the list would look quite different in places and the Connery movies would rank much, much higher.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    I don't really have a ranked list in my head (mainly because it's too difficult and fluid) but if I had to give it a guess, I'd say it sits no lower than number 10.
  • It is a bit early, but it is in my Top 5 and it is my second favorite Craig Bond film.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 212
    Still climbing: now top 3 :x
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited November 2015 Posts: 45,489
    Tell us when it stops.
  • Top 20 for me currently, probably around the 15ish range. Definitely room for improvement as I felt a bit overwhelmed at times with what was happening on the screen, making it hard to take everything in. Replay value for sure.

    Understandable. This is a complex, sprawling and very ambitious film. And for that reason, I think it will repay multiple viewings.

  • zerozerozerozero The far far east
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    Top 5 somewhere
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    I need to view it a few more times, without morons behind me chatting, and one of them using his mobile phone..... ~X(

    But even with those minor distractions going on around me in the cinema, I could still see the positives with SP. This is Craig's TB. From the minute we see him walking coolly on the rooftops of Mexico, I knew this was the Bond film I had been waiting for Craig to appear in. I think its better than SF and QoS, but not as good as CR on first viewing, so this will most likely reside in my top 5, or thereabouts. I also think this film will be the most re-watchable of all the Craig films, the same way I can watch GF or OHMSS over and over again.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I don't know how people come up with that this is Craig's TB when it's so clearly Craig's YOLT
  • In terms of the DC Bond movies I tie this in second place with Casino Royale behind Skyfall. Overall i rank it 3rd behind CR at 2 and OHMSS at 1.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    I need to view it a few more times, without morons behind me chatting, and one of them using his mobile phone..... ~X(

    Yes, on my second viewing the people next to me were talking, I asked, politely, if they would mind stop talking and the woman next to me (who was quite tasty, actually), said, 'yes, when it starts.' and this was after the gun barrel - I said 'it has started' and she thought this hilarious and said something about Mr Grumpy. Thing is I didn't spend my hard-earned to listen to idiots prattle on during the film. And as she left she remarked 'well that was a pile of crap!'. So because she and her silly fiends weren't enjoying it they thought it okay to spoil it for those of us who were! Grrr.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Overall, number 9.

    #2 in the Craig era.
  • I need to view it a few more times, without morons behind me chatting, and one of them using his mobile phone..... ~X(

    This is the main reason i so rarely bother going to the cinema anymore.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Fortunately my theater was playing it a day earlier so I was in a huge Imax sized theater room with less than 20 attendees. Can't wait to do it again with The Force Awakens.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 503
    The top 10 is pretty much solid , the rest of them move up or down occasionally (apart from the last two)
    01CASINO ROYALE
    02 ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    03 GOLDENEYE
    04 SPECTRE
    05 FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    06 OCTOPUSSY
    07 SKYFALL
    08 GOLDFINGER
    09 THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    10 THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH

    11 THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    12 LIVE AND LET DIE
    13 TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    14 QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    15 MOONRAKER
    16 DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17 THUNDERBALL
    18 LICENCE TO KILL
    19 FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    20 DR NO

    21 YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    22 A VIEW TO A KILL
    23 THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    24 DIE ANOTHER DAY
    25 NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited November 2015 Posts: 17,801
    I don't know how people come up with that this is Craig's TB when it's so clearly Craig's YOLT
    It's Craig's YOLT with TB's restraint & good writing.
    :D
  • Birdleson wrote: »
    You ranked TSWLM twice and left out DAF.
    Fixed.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @bondjames, anyone willing to acknowledge the fact that TWINE is a lesser film to DAD is on my short list. :D And you, sir, at least put TB in your top 5. I find the lack of support for TB on this forum... disturbing. :-)

    TWINE is Brosnan's weakest film by far! Michael Apted short of destroyed all potential TWINE had.

    Renard might have morphed into a hobbit but I always be curious as to what Peter Jackson would have done with that film.

    Still peeved at Apted.
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    I would say that this was Craig's second best Bond film after "CASINO ROYALE". As for the overall list of Bond movies, I have to think on it.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    I haven't quite decided yet but somewhere in the top 24. :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I haven't quite decided yet but somewhere in the top 24. :D
    Silly silly Texan man...
    :))
  • Third time's a charm. This is my favorite Bond movie. Whoah.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Don’t do 'ranking' anymore as it fluctuates too much.
    Now I have 4 ‘tiers’ that haven’t changed in a good ten years, and I’ll stick SP in the first, for now, but it may slip into Tier 2 upon repeated viewings:

    Tier 1 – top stuff:
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    CASINO ROYALE
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    SPECTRE
    GOLFINGER
    THUNDERBALL
    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY


    Tier 2 – good but nothing special:
    DR NO
    LICENCE TO KILL
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    GOLDENEYE
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES


    Tier 3 – below par, but I’ll watch it if it’s on:
    SKYFALL
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    OCTOPUSSY
    YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    A VIEW TO A KILL
    MOONRAKER


    Tier 4 – switch it off, please:
    THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    LIVE AND LET DIE
    DIE ANOTHER DAY


  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited November 2015 Posts: 5,131
    Whats wrong with LALD??? It's Moores best jointly with FYEO in my book.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    AceHole wrote: »
    Don’t do 'ranking' anymore as it fluctuates too much.
    Now I have 4 ‘tiers’ that haven’t changed in a good ten years, and I’ll stick SP in the first, for now, but it may slip into Tier 2 upon repeated viewings:

    Tier 1 – top stuff:
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    CASINO ROYALE
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    SPECTRE
    GOLFINGER
    THUNDERBALL
    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY


    Tier 2 – good but nothing special:
    DR NO
    LICENCE TO KILL
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    GOLDENEYE
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES


    Tier 3 – below par, but I’ll watch it if it’s on:
    SKYFALL
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    OCTOPUSSY
    YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    A VIEW TO A KILL
    MOONRAKER


    Tier 4 – switch it off, please:
    THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    LIVE AND LET DIE
    DIE ANOTHER DAY


    And three of the four 'switch offs' are Hamilton directed films with Manckiewicz scripts. How 'bout that!
    I'll watch all of 'em but you Tier 4 would be very much my Tier 4 - If There's Nothing Better On!
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,731
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Whats wrong with LALD??? It's Moores best jointly with FYEO in my book.

    It would be completely outside the scope of this thread to explain fully - but I find LALD lacklustre to the extreme. The NY sequences are cringeworthy & there is little or no thrill to speak of. Moore is ball-achingly boring as 007.
    How anyone can rate it, apart for sentimental reasons, is beyond me.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    AceHole wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Whats wrong with LALD??? It's Moores best jointly with FYEO in my book.

    It would completely outside the scope of this thread to explain fully - but I find LALD lacklustre to the extreme. The NY sequences are cringeworthy & there is little or no thrill to speak of. Moore is ball-achingly boring as 007.
    How anyone can rate it, apart for sentimental reasons, is beyond me.

    I used to love it as teen, but with each passing year I find it not quite as good as it could have been, put that down to TM and GH. It's still watchable just not a fav.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    The croc escape and ensuing boat chase is better than any set piece in SP bar Mexico imho. Worth the price of admission on that alone.

    The rest of it is so-so, but Moore is in top form here. New York is one of my favourite parts of the whole thing (so retro-70's with the Afro's and all) with superb charisma by all the actors (including the cabbie and the shopkeeper) but Martin's marvelous funk score really holds that section together.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,731
    AceHole wrote: »
    Don’t do 'ranking' anymore as it fluctuates too much.
    Now I have 4 ‘tiers’ that haven’t changed in a good ten years, and I’ll stick SP in the first, for now, but it may slip into Tier 2 upon repeated viewings:

    Tier 1 – top stuff:
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    CASINO ROYALE
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    SPECTRE
    GOLFINGER
    THUNDERBALL
    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY


    Tier 2 – good but nothing special:
    DR NO
    LICENCE TO KILL
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    GOLDENEYE
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES


    Tier 3 – below par, but I’ll watch it if it’s on:
    SKYFALL
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    OCTOPUSSY
    YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    A VIEW TO A KILL
    MOONRAKER


    Tier 4 – switch it off, please:
    THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    LIVE AND LET DIE
    DIE ANOTHER DAY


    And three of the four 'switch offs' are Hamilton directed films with Manckiewicz scripts. How 'bout that!
    I'll watch all of 'em but you Tier 4 would be very much my Tier 4 - If There's Nothing Better On!

    Not really coincidence - '71 to '74 represents the nadir of the franchise for me, the team were out of ideas and it showed horribly. There is just nothing exciting there imo - the early 70's were parodies of what Bond had been the decade before.
    So after Saltzman bailed they went back to what worked (big plots & big stunts, literally copying most of the earlier stories) and at least started making entertaining movies again, if not really increasing the quality of the writing...
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