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Where would you rank SPECTRE? (no spoilers)

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  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »

    SP is also basking in post-release glory here, and it's likely to fall a bit after a few months or years, as happened to SF.

    That's pretty much a sure bet.

    Lord knows I find the current consensus baffling. But then I'm still confused by the significant portion of Bond fans who adore Thunderball, so it could well stay near the top for many people.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    Birdleson wrote: »
    No, SPECTRE will not stand up to repeated viewings, it's far too hollow.

    I keep THUNDERBALL in my Top Ten. It is not as strong as it's predecessors, but it does contain the best dialogue in the series, and Connery give his last great performance.

    @Birdleson we are dinosaurs here. My Son appreciates the past in film (mainly because I put on older s**t all the time) but times are changing... SP is a glance at the past...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    All of the homages and in-jokes are great, but there needs to be a solid film underneath for me to enjoy myself.
    I'm certain it will fall over time in the rankings for many, if not all (some will see it as their new favourite, which is fine). The same, as you noted, happened to SF.

    I currently have it at 10.

    If some of the things I disliked weren't there, it could easily be a top 6 film for me. Most of the sequences I liked were the inventive ones (pretitles, funeral, needle, Moroccan hotel, train etc.). The ones I didn't like were the ones that evoked the past (clinic, meet where Hinx was introduced, villain HQ etc.) because they seemed a little derivative (although they tried to make them fresh).

    I'll see it one more time in the theatre (ranking probably won't change at that point) and then see how I feel in 6 months or so, after the blu ray release. It may all look better on the small screen (like QoS did for me).
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    Ok from 41 MI6 rankings I have:
    5. SF (684)
    6. SP (670)

    How do you arrive at those numbers? @w2bond

    My calculation is this.

    Spectre gets 344 points after 41 rankings, 8.39
    Skyfall gets 352 points after 41 rankings, 8.58

    @BondJasonBond006
    I'm giving 24 points to 1st and 1 point to 24th, whereas you are doing it the other way

    I've rounded my average/medians, I've got average of 8.76 for SP and 8.39 for SF
    Median is SF 6, SP 8
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Dubble_uh_oh wrote: »
    Thunderball007 wrote: »
    Not sure where it ranks all time, but for the for Daniel Craig era, so far:

    1) Casino Royale
    2) SPECTRE
    3) Skyfall
    4) Quantum of Solace

    SPECTRE is highly fun! :D
    Thunderball007 wrote: »
    Not sure where it ranks all time, but for the for Daniel Craig era, so far:

    1) Casino Royale
    2) SPECTRE
    3) Skyfall
    4) Quantum of Solace

    SPECTRE is highly fun! :D

    Terrible soundtrack! But the movie itself is 10000000000000 light years better than Brosnan bond films imo! Walked out of his goldeneye!

    As a Bond fan, how could you walk out of GE? I'm no advocate of Brosnan but he still was an 'ok' Bond. GE was his best film too. I guess you never even showed for DAD based on this.
  • Dubble_uh_ohDubble_uh_oh
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Dubble_uh_oh wrote: »
    Thunderball007 wrote: »
    Not sure where it ranks all time, but for the for Daniel Craig era, so far:

    1) Casino Royale
    2) SPECTRE
    3) Skyfall
    4) Quantum of Solace

    SPECTRE is highly fun! :D
    Thunderball007 wrote: »
    Not sure where it ranks all time, but for the for Daniel Craig era, so far:

    1) Casino Royale
    2) SPECTRE
    3) Skyfall
    4) Quantum of Solace

    SPECTRE is highly fun! :D

    Terrible soundtrack! But the movie itself is 10000000000000 light years better than Brosnan bond films imo! Walked out of his goldeneye!

    As a Bond fan, how could you walk out of GE? I'm no advocate of Brosnan but he still was an 'ok' Bond. GE was his best film too. I guess you never even showed for DAD based on this.

    Well I did walk out!! It was pure pile of crap with crap song crap soundtrack and crap imitation bond!! I did enjoy the game though! As for the rest of his miovies, when I saw their posters on the entertainment guide of one of our local newspapers I thought that perhaps it's better to witness my grandma getting raped!!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Dubble_uh_oh wrote: »
    Well I did walk out!! It was pure pile of crap with crap song crap soundtrack and crap imitation bond!! I did enjoy the game though! As for the rest of his miovies, when I saw their posters on the entertainment guide of one of our local newspapers I thought that perhaps it's better to witness my grandma getting raped!!
    I'm not exactly the biggest Brosnan supporter, but I'm sorry to hear this....truly. It must have been difficult for you.

    GE was one of my best experiences in a cinema ever. I was almost in tears of joy. Sadly, my Bond experiences declined since then until 2006.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
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    Top 10. After my second viewing I can confidently say that I loved it
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited December 2015 Posts: 4,399
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  • Matt007Matt007
    Posts: 1,314
    @haserot we seem to be similar in our tastes. A few discrepancies but overall that's a list and ranking I can't find much fault with.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    No, SPECTRE will not stand up to repeated viewings, it's far too hollow.

    The last act won't stand up very well but I think there's a lot of good in the first hour of the film. The meeting with Spectre for instance is very well done and could possibly be one of the best scenes in the Craig era.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited November 2015 Posts: 11,189
    Dubble_uh_oh wrote: »
    Well I did walk out!! It was pure pile of crap with crap song crap soundtrack and crap imitation bond!! I did enjoy the game though! As for the rest of his miovies, when I saw their posters on the entertainment guide of one of our local newspapers I thought that perhaps it's better to witness my grandma getting raped!!

    You sound like such a lovely person
    8-| 8-|

    The likes of @Cowley may not like GE but at least they don't resort to coarse comparisons like that.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,589
    #3. Right behind GE and CR. Skyfall drops to #5 and FRWL moves to #4.

    GE
    CR
    SP
    FRWL
    SF
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    #3. Right behind GE and CR. Skyfall drops to #5 and FRWL moves to #4.

    GE
    CR
    SP
    FRWL
    SF

    Good boy ;)
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited February 2016 Posts: 4,043
    TBC

  • mepal1mepal1
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,098
    Birdleson wrote: »
    My Craig films:

    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    9. SKYFALL (2012)
    11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE (2008)
    24. SPECTRE (2015)

    It may seem harsh, in regards to SP, but it has actually improved with my last viewing. Though it's at the bottom, it is a Bond film and I have to love it for that in some capacity. Just less than the others. Even at it's best it tends to bring me down.

    So, you reckon QOS a film that was barely watchable, had virtually no story, weak characters, is 13 places above SP?
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    mepal1 wrote: »

    So, you reckon QOS a film that was barely watchable

    Opinion.
    mepal1 wrote: »

    So, you reckon QOS a film that had virtually no story

    Opinion.

    mepal1 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    My Craig films:

    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    9. SKYFALL (2012)
    11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE (2008)
    24. SPECTRE (2015)

    It may seem harsh, in regards to SP, but it has actually improved with my last viewing. Though it's at the bottom, it is a Bond film and I have to love it for that in some capacity. Just less than the others. Even at it's best it tends to bring me down.

    So, you reckon QOS a film that...weak characters

    Opinion.

    Sorted.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    Posts: 2,341
    It is so easy to pick a top and a bottom but placing the other films and where to rank them is rather dicey. I like SPECTRE and I may go see it on the big screen once more before the DVD comes out.

    I daresay it is not as good as CR or SF but a very solid (and like we used to say in the seventies) uptight, outta sight.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    I haven't decided on a final position but somewhere in the lower top half of my rankings (around the #7/#8 mark).
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    Still can't decide :-(
  • chrischris
    Posts: 11
    1. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    2. The Living Daylights (1987)
    3. Dr. No (1962)
    4. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    5. Live and Let Die (1973)
    6. A View to a Kill (1985)
    7. GoldenEye (1995)
    8. Thunderball (1965)
    9. Moonraker (1979)
    10. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    11. Goldfinger (1964)
    12. From Russia With Love (1963)
    13. Die Another Day (2002)
    14. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    15. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
    16. Casino Royale (2006)
    17. Spectre (2015)
    18. Skyfall (2012)
    19. Licence to Kill (1989)
    20. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
    21. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    22. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    23. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    24. Octopussy (1983)
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    Among the Craig films...

    Casino Royale
    SPECTRE
    Skyfall
    Quantum of Solace

    Among all the Bond films, at least in the top ten, if not five.
  • valentinzukovskyvalentinzukovsky
    Posts: 503
    This is my top 10 as of today , a couple of films have moved around a bit but Spectre is staying where it is for now.
    1.The Spy Who Loved Me
    2.Goldeneye
    3.Casino Royale
    4.Goldfinger
    5. Spectre
    6.The Living Daylights
    7.The World Is Not Enough
    8.DR.NO
    9.Skyfall
    10. For your eyes only

    Ranking of Daniel's movies
    1) Casino Royale
    2) Spectre
    3) Skyfall
    4) Quantum Of Solace
  • TellyBlofeldTellyBlofeld
    Posts: 489
    The first act of this picture is in my opinion magnificent, the rest becomes a good but not great Bond film, which is still fun.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    Posts: 1,984
    As of now, for me it's behind Skyfall but still in a fairly good area. I think it's something of an above-average entry.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    Even now that the dust has settled a bit I'd still rank it around the same as I did the day after seeing it - 8th.

    I really do think it is almost a great Bondfilm. Just a shame it suffered from having the same creative team as SF... otherwise it may well have ranked higher for me.
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
    Posts: 389
    TellyBlofeld wrote: »
    The first act of this picture is in my opinion magnificent, the rest becomes a good but not great Bond film, which is still fun.
    I could´t agree more with you.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    I'm still not sure where I'd put it in my full ranking, as I want to do a proper, straight-through Bondathon in a few months once it's out and I've seen it a few more times. The novelty has most certainly worn off for me and the minor nuisances and complaints stand out more, but it's still Top 10 for me.
  • TellyBlofeldTellyBlofeld
    Posts: 489
    I'll have to watch this movie again, and soon, but as soon as they hit tangiers the story loses it's intensity and I start to question stuff, like a hotel that has a spare room that it is unaware of for a decade.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,430
    The pre-credits sequence, the opening scene with M/C, the whole sequence in Rome, the plane chase, confrontation with Mr. White, fight with Hinx,waiting for the Rolls, meeting Blofeld, torture scene, Driving off with Madeleine. Sorry, couldn't disagree more with you!
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