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It's closer to Moore's films than SF, certainly, but as someone who watched all of Moore's films in the cinema, I can say with considerable certainty that this really isn't a Moore film.
I consider the Slate fight, along with much of the first third of QOS, to be lousy.
A some of what you mention there are surely just 'scuffles'...?
TLD car fight is hardly a full blown punch up and the SF silhouette fight is just too arty to make a really good fight scene.
Craig definitely makes the fight and action scenes more realistic which is partly why he's my favourite Bond.
That's a pretty good observation. But whether you count it as a true fight scene or as an aesthetic spectacle, it's awfully, awfully good. One of the greatest sequences in all of Bond, IMO.
I disagree with you, they are scenes that involve fighting - hence they are fight scenes
The scene you mentioned is certainly well photographed, but you can't tell who is who during the fight and it takes all the excitement out of it.
Are you sure? I can tell who's who ...
Fair enough, but I have pretty strict rules as to what I personally consider a fight scene.
Only after about the 3rd viewing of the film
I would also omit the silhouette scene from Skyfall. To arty to be a proper fight scene.
My favourite Bond fights are (In no particular order)
Bond v Grant FRWL
Bond v Oddjob GF
Bond v Duvall TB
PTS OHMSS
Hotel fight OHMSS
Elevator fight DAF
Rooftop fight TSWLM
Bond vs Chang MR
Yo Yo fight Octopussy
Bond v Necros TLD
Bond v Trevalyan GE
PTS CR
Stairwell fight CR
Hotel room fight QoS
Bond v Hinx SP
I had no problem whatsoever telling who was who. I did, however, have problems distinguishing one car from the other during the QOS PTS chase scene.
Could never mistake an Aston Martin for an Alfa Romeo surely??!!!!
I would certainly count the SF silhouette fight as a fight (what else is it? A love scene?) but I wouldn't rank it that highly. It's decent but I prefer there to be some interaction with the scenery in terms of shit getting smashed up so I much prefer SP.
Obviously that's not the sole criteria as not much gets smashed up in FRWL and loads does in the DAD sword fight (which I rate as very average) but SF just comes across as too minimalist and despite the arty camerawork it's not a patch on Campbell's CR fights.
I'd have the Hinx fight possibly 3rd after Grant and Obanno. I think it's slightly better than OHMSS (Che Che), GE (Alec), CR (Fisher) and QOS (Slate) which are the only other serious contenders.
I do wish Dan had been properly smashed up in it though like he was in CR or like Indy against Pat Roach in Raiders. The fact that there's not a mark on him at the end does seem a bit Rog-esque.
All this talk about FRWL CR SP SF GE OHMSS QOS and even DAD.
BUT THE BEST FIGHT OF THE FRANCHISE GETS OVERLOOKED AS USUAL [-(
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When their colors and year models very similar and the editing is so rapid that one never gets a really good look at either car, yes.
A lot of people don't like the editing. I think it's razor sharp.
A lot better, IMO. And a lot easier on the eyes.
It couldn't have been much worse.
I agree.
I'd have that certainly in the top 10.
Not only the Dalton era. Is there a fight to better it between Bond v Franks and Bond v Alec?