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Me, it was the trash compactor reference that made me chuckle.
In fact, i can't actually remember the equivalent scene in SWTFA that well, as it was so mediocre by comparison.
Honestly though, I was so anxious about Han that I wasn't as emotionally engaged with the space battle. I'm sure on future viewings I'll soak it all in and see what a spectacle it is!
It was, BUT the destruction of the Death Star in the first film is one of THE most iconic moments not only in Star Wars but in modern cinema history. Lightning was unlikely to strike twice.
Out of all the members here who could of given me a satisfactory answer, i ended up with @Thunderfinger replying, with one of his or hers smart ass comments. ;)
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I'm going to have to agree as well. It's also why I loved Spectre. :D
That too!! ^:)^
Like it you must, Mmmm yes yes but now, we must eat!
I like how both the First Order and Kylo Ren seem so not-yet-quite-professional, like teenagers in the middle of their education. However that jars a bit with them being able to build a battle station a thousand tims bigger than the Death Star.
It's a Death Star on the cheap. A planet with alterations.
My big issue with the movie is the Death Star on steroids. otherwise I really enjoyed it, SW cliches and all. Oh and we saw too little of Poe. An original character who fits so perfectly with the Star Wars universe. Far more than any of the characters from the prequels.
First being that it borrowed too many elements from the OT (Original Trilogy) that it would be quite hard to appreciate this film as an original (sort of =/) addition to the SW trilogy. I see parallels everywhere, from the characters involved to how the plot unfolds to even the main plot points. There is a fine line between mirroring and ripping off, but I couldnt help but believe that JJ had started with the OT plotline and slowly built onto it to make it what it is now. Too many parallels.
Second would be that it seems to be written in a way that sets up another film, instead of focusing the main threads, like Age of Ultron in the MCU. A big chunk of the movie's start was devoted to establishing the characters, which is entirely acceptable (commendable even), if not for the fact that the same amount of time was used later to rush through the climax and resolution of the film. I do recognise that there is a main plot of the plan to destroy StarKiller base, but the plan was introduced (imo) too late into the film and the execution of the mission to the destruction was too rushed, relative to the time for the film to introduce the characters. Furthermore, there were quite a lot of subplots and most of them were left unresolved at the end. From Rey's parentage to Snoke to Kylo Ren to Luke to Hux...it felt mostly as a set-up for another film. A minor issue really but nitpicking is what I do =P
Third: Too little lightsaber battles. Actually, there's only one. And its anticlimatic too imo. Too much suspense and the action itself (the duelling) came across as slow relative to the prequels. (or maybe its just me, I'm not sure).
In conclusion SW Episode 7 is a great film. Loved it but the above are just a few issues that I feel could have made it a better film. =)
My main gripe would be that the bulk of the new characters are in no way as rounded as those in, for example, Star Wars (ANH for those under 25). There's nothing particularly at stake for any of the characters, neither is there any definable motivation. It's all a bit linear. Finn as a character is pretty flaccid, there's no real weight behind his reasons for fleeing the first order, other than some sort of vague moral obligation, and his stimulus to tag along appears to be Rey. That's all well and good, but we've see that done better with the classic scoundrel in Han.
Even from the end of the very first movie, if you asked a viewer to describe what Han would do in a given situation they'd be able to tell you. The same goes for Luke, Obi-Wan and Leia. They were fully formed, not the finished article (far from it) but they were a character, not just a conduit for exposition. With Finn it's far more opaque (non-existent imo), similarly with Rey and also Poe to a lesser extent. It's masked well by Abrams ability to pull off pure entertainment and pantomime (I mean that in a good way), but I hope these characters are more developed in EP VIII because they need to be elevated, particularly now there is a gargantuan hole following the death of Han.
We know very little if anything about Darth Vader. Hazy back story glossed over in two lines.
Nothing about moff tarkin
We know as much about Han as Finn, arguably less. Come on we know Finn was taken by the first order as a child, trained, had a crisis of conscience, escaped etc. what do we know about Han Solos back story at the end of Jedi? Nothing. But that adds to his mystique.
If argue you would know what rey, Poe and Finn would do in a situation.
@RC7 You've probably seen this but this is a great argument as to why the phantom menace character suck....
I'm not talking about backstory, backstory isn't character. Character is qualities, attributes, behavioural patterns etc. Han is a scoundrel, a mercenary, he's in it for himself first and foremost. His charm gets him everywhere. He operates on a wing and prayer. He trusts very few people, but those he does are treated with loyalty. I could go on for quite a while. What I'm saying is, faced with a situation most of us could take a stab at what Han would. The same way we could Bond. All this is shown to us in Star Wars (ANH). I don't know what sort of a character Finn is really. I couldn't describe him to you, bar a few vague adjectives.
Edit: I have seen that video, yes. Honestly, Finn and Rey are about as well drawn as some of the characters in EP1, hence why I think they need to flesh them out in VIII. When the Droid is more three dimensional than some of the leads you know you've got a problem.
I've not seen any attacks on TFA only positive reviews. Whose been slamming it?
You have been less than complimentary, albeit in positive feedback style. Wish you were as critical about SP.
My only problem is this lack of characterisation and it's patently obvious. While Han's death was necessary, dramatically, it's going to leave quite a void. He's the best thing in TFA. It may be a case of Hamill to the rescue. I genuinely think they'd have been better going their original draft with Leia copping it. A vengeful Solo would have been quite awesome to see in EP VIII. Which reminds me, they got over his death pretty quickly.
I have been critical of elements of SP. Characterisation isn't one. I pretty much get the motivations of everyone involved.