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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    @Birdleson Are you interested in my idea?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    If we're not counting songs that weren't used/written for the production, it really would be rather easy. There's not a massive amount of instances where a then popular song gets injected into the films.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    No. We wouldn't count songs in the score.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Could we get the moment and time stamp for "longest single take in each Bond film"? This means no editing, i.e. SPECTRE's intro doesn't count. We should allow fade-ins or fade-outs as part of the shot. Once the next image is completely on screen then stop timing etc.

    For example; the roof shot in YOLT which lasted around 20 seconds. Or as in CR (2006) when Vesper and Bond are sitting in the shower (1 minute ish). We can time this.

    Anyone agree?
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Sure. If someone wants to do that, go ahead. I think it would be interesting. Or, if you don't want to do all the movies, can you do the first three? I just watched them yesterday.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    edited March 2017 Posts: 1,889
    How about if we source it from anybody who wants to participate, which would make it easier? So if anyone is going to watch a James Bond film and wants to take part;

    1) Find the longest take [might be tough i.e. two takes are only 1 second off, but we'll
    allow your best guess] But most of the time it should be fairly obvious (+1minute).

    2) Use a timer (round to nearest .5 sec, where 1.25s => 1.5s) and note the moment or it'll be useless.

    3) Finally we rank them by length. I'm really interested in the longest single take of all the films and also the film having the shortest-longest take, if you get what I mean. (5 secs in QoS perhaps? :D )

    I'll note FYEO, QoS and SPECTRE although you can do it as well just to check if I'm correct. Remember, don't time it when you first watch it. Instead pick one or two moments where you think it's the longest take and then go back and spend 2mins finding out which actually is. Don't kill yourself over it heh
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Has anyone else taken part in the "find the longest single take per film" ?

    I've got 8 down already and I wouldn't mind cross-checking the moment and length of the takes. I've noted the 'scene' and any memorable line in the shot but not the time stamp (i.e when it started) because BluRays might have a different absolute length compared to digital etc.
  • vzokvzok
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    No. We wouldn't count songs in the score.

    Aren't most of the songs featured in the score? I'm struggling to think of many others.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    How about songs?
    For your consideration, and not a tune played in the film, but I take Graves' line in DIE ANOTHER DAY as recognizing the song "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" by my good friend Mr. Warren Zevon.

    He was fighting terminal cancer back in 2002, and won a battle of sorts.

    http://ew.com/article/2002/09/01/werewolves-rocker-warren-zevon-has-terminal-cancer/
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    vzok wrote: »
    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    No. We wouldn't count songs in the score.

    Aren't most of the songs featured in the score? I'm struggling to think of many others.

    Off the top of my head:

    1. "London calling" by The Clash, in DAD
    2. "Three Blind Mice" in DN.
    3. "Te Deum" from Tosca, in QoS
    4. "California Girls,": Beach Boys, in AVTAK
    5. "Regressa" and "Cholo Soy" by Jamie Cuadra, in QoS
    6. "Boom Boom" by The Animals, in SF
    7. A snippet of "New York, New York" in SP
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    There's also Charles Trenet's "Boum" in Skyfall and "Where Has Everybody Gone" from The Pretenders in The Living Daylights, but I struggle to think of more.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    "Stand By Your Man" as sung impressively terribly by Minnie Driver with a Russian accent in GoldenEye.

    Also Tim Feehan's dirty "Dirty Love" and Ivory's "Wedding Party" in Licence to Kill and Rage's "Make It Last All Night" in For Your Eyes Only. You could put together quite the mix-tape of sleazy 80s songs from James Bond films.

    Then Dr. No has "Jump Up" by Lord Creator & The Dragonaires, and of course Live & Let Die has B. J. Arnau's cover version if we're counting songs written for the film that are featured diegetically. And in the same film, "Just a Closer Walk With Thee" and "New Second Line" for the funeral procession.

    Are we counting classical music such as that heard in The Spy Who Loved Me and A View to a Kill? Or borrowed film music (Spy and Moonraker)?
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
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    FYEO: Nobody does it better
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Crazysoul95 wrote: »
    FYEO: Nobody does it better

    Where in the film is that?

    If we're including self referencing there's GF theme being whistled in OHMSS and LALD theme making a short appearance in TMWTGG. And of course the James Bond Theme being played by Vijay in OP.

    It's in Q's lab on a keypad to the Identigraph door.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    edited March 2017 Posts: 6,844
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Crazysoul95 wrote: »
    FYEO: Nobody does it better

    Where in the film is that?

    If we're including self referencing there's GF theme being whistled in OHMSS and LALD theme making a short appearance in TMWTGG. And of course the James Bond Theme being played by Vijay in OP.

    I think diegetic use should count, such as the OHMSS janitor humming Goldfinger or Vijay playing the James Bond theme, but I'm not sure I'd count references in the actual scores. That could run into a very, very long list. In fact, just today, I think I discovered a part of Casino Royale in the cue "Triple Aces" that references a somewhat obscure part of OHMSS.

    Where is the L&LD reference in TMWTGG? I've never caught that before.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Wow, that's cool! I'll look out for that next time.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Whoa, now I really can't believe I'd never caught that before. John Barry referencing part of somebody else's James Bond score. Now I've heard everything!
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited March 2017 Posts: 9,020
    DN
    Three Blind Mice (Byron Lee & The Dragonaires)
    Jump Up (Byron Lee & The Dragonaires)
    Under The Mango Tree (sung in part by Ursula Andress and Sean Connery)
    Under The Mango Tree (Diana Coupland)

    OHMSS
    Goldfinger Theme (whistled by actor)

    TLD
    Where Has Everybody Gone (The Pretenders)

    LTK
    Dirty Love (Tim Feehan)
    Wedding Party (Ivory)

    LALD
    Live And Let Die (B.J. Arnau)
    Just A Closer Walk With Thee (Gospel) at funeral
    New Second Line (Gospel) at funeral

    TMWTGG
    Live And Let Die Theme (in Sheriff Pepper scene)

    TSWLM
    Music used from Lawrence Of Arabia

    MR
    Music used from:
    The Magnificent Seven
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

    FYEO
    Make It Last All Night (Rage)

    OP
    James Bond Theme (played on instrument by Vijay)

    AVTAK
    California Girls (Beach Boys)

    GE
    Stand By Your Man (Minnie Driver)

    DAD
    London Calling (The Clash)
    I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (Warren Zevon) is referenced by Gustav Graves.

    QOS
    Te Deum (from Tosca)
    Regressa (Jamie Cuadra)
    Cholo Soy (Jamie Cuadra)

    SF
    Boom Boom (The Animals)
    Boum (Charles Trenet)

    SP
    New York, New York

    I will add to this post anything you'll find more. Thank you for all your great catches.
  • vzokvzok
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    TripAces wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    No. We wouldn't count songs in the score.

    Aren't most of the songs featured in the score? I'm struggling to think of many others.

    Off the top of my head:

    1. "London calling" by The Clash, in DAD
    2. "Three Blind Mice" in DN.
    3. "Te Deum" from Tosca, in QoS
    4. "California Girls,": Beach Boys, in AVTAK
    5. "Regressa" and "Cholo Soy" by Jamie Cuadra, in QoS
    6. "Boom Boom" by The Animals, in SF
    7. A snippet of "New York, New York" in SP

    The top of your head is quite right. but isn't three blind mice on the soundtrack over and over again. They just give it different names.
  • vzokvzok
    edited March 2017 Posts: 4,044
    I thought that someone over the page said we weren't counting songs featured in the soundtrack / score.

    If we are then -

    Dr No:

    Underneath The Mango Tree - Monty Norman (yes he sang it)
    Underneath The Mango Tree - Nikki Van Der Zyl (Diana Coupland only sang a demo)

    FRWL:

    From Russia With Love - Matt Monro

    OHMSS:

    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown - Nina
    Medley of Underneath The Mango Tree / FRWL / TB (if we are straying from songs)

    MR:

    Snoopy's Theme
    Do Yorubá à Luz, A Aurora dos Deuses (that's what my iTunes says)

    AVTAK:

    California Girls - Gidea Park

    TLD:

    Sacred Heart - Chris Blackwell
    Kara plays several classical pieces that I don't recognise

    CR:

    Linstead Market - Gary Trotman

    QOS:

    Zanmi - Nickenson Prud'homme
    El Provinciano - Jaime Cuadra & Luis Abanta Morales
    24 E Tan Pou Viv - Jerry Duplessis & Wyclef Jean
    Business Before Pleasure - George Akaeze

    SF:

    Konyali - Ensemble Hüseyin Türkmenler

    SP:

    Theme From New York, New York - Ray Quinn
    Cum Dederit - Andreas Scholl
    Day Of The Dead - Tambuco
    One Furtive Tear - Geoff Love & His Orchestra
  • GerardGerard
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    OHMSS:

    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown - Nina

    And Isabelle Aubret. From what I heard, she sang the song in French during the scenes in the alpine village.
  • vzokvzok
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    If anyone knows anything about classical music, then TSWLM, MR, AVTAK and TLD feature several pieces. I remember the MR gondola scene is called Trisch Trash Polka and AVTAK has something from Vivaldi's Four Seasons.

    DAF has that military music cue that Bond enjoys on cassette.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited March 2017 Posts: 4,515
    QOS: Alicia Keys sings bang bang at the end of "Another way to die"
    As reference to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (What mean James Bond) / Thunderball and
    Nancy Sinatra - Bang Bang.

    And of course there is that Dutch element (sound effect) to the real story/terrible truth of Daniel Craig era in the clocktower scene.

    Spectre: The jazz music in Spectre elivator in Mexico sound like Portugues Fado music from Cesária Évora.


  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I don't think "Three Blind Mice" was part of the score, because it wasn't composed for the film.

    @vzok is right about the traditional Turkish music used in the bar scene (one of my favorite scenes of the DC era):

  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Has someone else timed a "longest take" in any Bond film yet? Maybe posting the half-completed list might make others join in? @PropertyOfALady
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Actually I haven't been doing that at all. It's kind of a hard one to keep track of. I guess I can start soon.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Actually I haven't been doing that at all. It's kind of a hard one to keep track of. I guess I can start soon.
    Oh... Well I've completed FYEO, LTK, CR (2006), QoS, Skyfall and SPECTRE. There are others (FRWL, YOLT, TSWLM, AVTAK) that I've quickly done but there might be a potentially longer shot. I chose a few scenes and timed them but we need someone to watch the entire film to be certain. I'll eventually do it but crowdsourcing is optimal.

    So far Skyfall is winning with a 100.5 sec take of Silva's entrance. QoS has the shortest longest-take so far (shocking I know :D ).
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    When you guys are ready to post I will change the thread's title accordingly.
    @BondAficionado
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Is posting a preliminary list not allowed? It would certainly be much faster and we would be able to cross-check the times etc.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited March 2017 Posts: 9,020
    Yes please @BondAficionado start at any time you like. Any way you do it is fine. It's all fun and no rules here :)
    And thank you by the way for your great contribution!

    I can do a film too if you like. I am currently serving in the army, but I have all the Bond films ready on my Mac Book Pro as I also own all of them digitally on iTunes :) Just tell me which one I should do, I love them all*

    *ok, I don't love SF so much :P
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