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It should do well enough and get near $400 milion with any luck. Overseas it'll be big enough success.
No point recasting. The series ends with this film or do one more and leave it there.
Don't beat the horse any more than it's already been whipped.
Or a Nicolas Sarkozy type.
Hard to recast, it's not like Bond with lots of trappings like tux, vodka martini, Bond JB catchphrase (though he does have one), car, gadgets etc. It really is just Bruce.
Shame, as for me after Bond, Indy and McClane are right up there as action heroes.
I liked that McClane was more like he was in the original; complaining about jet lag, teasing his son, being sceptical, not really taking the bad guys serious. I also liked the story, the locations, and especially the score! Jai Courtney surprised me as McClane Jr.
I wasn't convinced that he'd make a good McClane (I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but I was rooting for Justin Timberlake to get the part) but he was great!
The bad comes from (at times) poor dialog, McClane's comments really being hit-and-miss, and not too witty, and the piss-poor directing. With Wiseman on the 4th they found somebody that truly loved Die Hard, and made a movie in the vain of Die Hard, but with this one it felt that John Moore was really just doing his take on Bourne or some thing, while the rest of the crew where trying to make a Die Hard film. Also, the film's action was quite frantic, which I think is half because of how it was directed, and half of how it was directed. Willis occasionally also seemed bored, like Connery was in YOLT.
I think with a script polish (especially dialog, maybe by John Logan) and a better director it could have been one of the better Die Hards, but as it stands it remains a good cinema experience, but a sup-par Die Hard adventure.
Films 3 and 4 are in some ways the same, 2 and 5 are similar in aspects, so next film 6 should parallel film 1, if that makes any sense at all.
Kinda like the ending of Skyfall? :D Actually, thinking of that, there are two moments in recent Bond films where Bond felt more like McClane than McClane did :) One was the ending of Skyfall, the other was breaking up the Quantum meeting at Tosca in QoS
What about Die Hard 6 is about a family reunion for the McClanes, in some fancy hotel or something, that then gets attacked by terrorist and John had to save his recently reunited family? Jack could do some spy shit and try and escape and sabotage the terrorist from within and stuff, but John would be on his own
The problem is, God only knows what we'll get. Now, you fear the worst.
Perfect, alright Hollywood, give us a few million and we'll make you a proper Die Hard film :D
I'm seeing number 5 on Saturday, but yes - this is all a new Die Hard needs - John McClane in a building, taking them out one by one. Make him scared about things - after all he is just an ordinary bloke, he even cries in the first film, and that's what the last two (I'm presuming) is missing - John's humanity
He has a bit more humanity/ is a bit more scared about things in the 5th, he's pretty chicken about going to
I didn't peek at the spoiler (even when I quoted you), but I'm glad to hear it - I have higher hopes about Saturday!
Dubai would be a great location. I'd rather see a Bond film there, though.
I haven't gotten that much yet, but here's the story I've worked out so far:
- John wakes up at home, with an attractive British woman with him. This is his girlfriend, Jodie. Jodie tries to talk him into not going, because se doesn’t understand why he’d travel miles and miles to see his ex-wife. John responds that family is important, and he’s going to see his kids.
- The plane sets down in Dubai. McClane gets his baggage from the checkpoint. This is where the title comes in.
- John meets with Lucy and Jack in the arrival hall. They exchange some pleasantries. John asks where their mothers is, to which they respond that she wanted to stay at the hotel. This bothers John.
- As they drive to the hotel, John and his kids discuss the new Nakatomi business that’s being resurrected in Dubai.
- They arrive at the hotel, and John spots a van he doesn’t trust. Jack and Lucy comment that he’s getting paranoid.
- Inside, John finally meets Holly. They are a little awkward and restricted towards each other, but finally they do start talking.
- John investigates his hotel room. He’s amazed at the luxury of it.
- John knocks on Holly’s door. She lets him in, at first he discusses the luxury and how she affords it, but quickly he asks her why their relationship didn’t work. Holly doesn’t like the conversation and sends him back to his room.
- Lucy and Jack are at the pool, and they discuss their parents. We also learn that Jack occasionally still does work for the CIA, but is more of a sleeper agent now. He notices the van is still parked, but before he can voice any suspicion they are picked up by Holly.
- John decides he has jet-lag, and that’s why he talked to Holly, and tries to get some sleep.
- Holly and the kids are brought to their table, and order some drinks. Holly comments Jack is just like his father when he orders a beer instead of anything fancy.
- Outside, a black Mercedes pulls up next to the van. A man exits, and knocks on the van. The backdoor is opened. Inside the van is full of computers and surveillance equipment. It turns out they are MI6-agents protecting someone. The man is their partner, and they trust him, but he turns out to be a double, and shoots them. He walks to the car, whistling, and drives to the underground parking structure.
- He meets up with a van, from which terrorist exit. They all head for the hotel entrance.
- John is still trying to sleep. Unable to do so, he opens the mini-bar and finds some bottles of liquor that he drowns. He comments that Holly isn’t going to be pleased, and crashes back on the bed. He misses a text from Holly asking where he is.
- The terrorists storm the building. Jack tries to fight some of them off, but without weapons he doesn’t get very far.
- John wakes up from the noise of gunfire. He curses his bad luck, and tries to see what’s going on out of the window. He can’t see anything.
- The terrorist group all the people they captured in the middle of a ballroom, and explain that they are looking for a certain individual, and that, as long as they don’t get in the way, nobody will get hurt. They repeat this message over the hotel’s speaker system. John isn’t impressed.
- The terrorist destroy the door-lock system, so nobody can enter or exit a room. John swears loudly as he finds out he doesn’t have his gun with him. He realizes that Jack’s room is next door and that he might have been able to smuggle something with him.
- John destroys his window, climbs onto a ledge and after some acrobatics he gets to Jack’s room. He searches the room and finds a Beretta with some ammo. He praises his son.
In the end I want the bad guys to be British (so we can have Patrick Steward as a villain), the British girl in the beginning has been sleeping with McClane to get information about the new Nakatomi project, and that's what the bad guys are after. But I haven't really figured out what that is and why they want it yet.
...Yuliya Snigir
How is she in the movie, @thelivingroyale?
I hope EON paying attention because Yuliya has Bond girl potential for Bond 24 or 25.
I say put a cameo for Al Powell in there for good measure!
funny you should say that, because I was thinking about having a scene where McClane could give one person a call, and he calls Al.
EDIT: I'm trying to work out a full story, but it's harder than I thought to write a coherent Die Hard story that doesn't just copy the first, and makes sense!
I like 'Old Habits Die Hard' a bit better :)
Appears it wasn't 100% because of the clips of the film, after all.
...Kermode...
Sorry for crappy pun...
*Rushes out in a flash*
Yeah, I know it has a bit of a 'Taken 2' vibe to it, I'm kinda working on the story right now. I've written 11 pages of an experimental draft of the screenplay :) I'll keep you guys posted. It's not only harder than I thought to write a Die Hard story, it's also pretty damn hard to write for McClane. Only very little of the dialog I've written right now feels like it'd come out of Willis' mouth :D But I love working on projects like this, seeing if I could do better than (in this case) Skip Woods