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How graphic are the sex scenes compared to the films?
I know the films normally cut things short but I have heard the books can be quite umm descriptive.
I remember reading LALD when I was like 13-14 and I swear it was super graphic.
I am debating on reading trigger mortis
I know the films normally cut things short but I have heard the books can be quite umm descriptive.
I remember reading LALD when I was like 13-14 and I swear it was super graphic.
I am debating on reading trigger mortis
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I'm reading trigger mortis at the moment it's not bad at all so far, quite enjoyed solo also more than carte blanche which I was a little disappointed with. :-S
Was very erotic ;) made a big impression on me as a lad.
Yes, that's how I'd put it too. I think Raymond Benson sexed things up a lot more in his Bond novels though, but that is the effect of time.
Yes, perhaps @CASINOROYALE could change the title of this thread to something like 'Sex scenes in the James Bond Novels' so as to avoid confusion. :)
Disappointing indeed.
I was all set for an in depth discussion of Eva's work in The Dreamers.
But more importantly, you've got to be a very good writer to put a sex scene in a novel without it becoming tawdry. And Benson, whilst he had his strengths, wasn't up to classy erotica.
If the first Bond film had been made in the '70s, there's a small chance the series would have included more graphic sex scenes, or at least more explicit nudity. But, as @Troy correctly points out, they probably would have had to "clean up" their affairs in more recent times. (Remember how Bond used to smoke... a lot?)
Personally, I can easily do without graphic sex in my Bonds. Yes, Fleming described certain instances of love making in a rather juicy way, but the film medium would use images instead of words, and that might have submitted the films to harsher age restrictions. (Remember, there's an odd subset of the audience that doesn't mind guns and blood but simply cannot handle a naked bosom for reason beyond my understanding.) Also, teasing the fruits of love can heat things up almost as much if not more than going full-on anatomical. Lastly, the Bond films have so much to offer already, we don't really need additional content to spice things up.
The sexy playfulness of the Bonds is now an integral part of the seductive cocktail of the films. If the violence, sex, politics, or comedy in the Bonds crossed a certain line into far more exploitative territory, it might ruin the fun.
Also, those who are hoping for "a glimmer", can always look up our beloved actresses in certain Internet archives. A surprising number of them took off their clothes in front of a camera or engaged in sex scenes in other films.
@ColonelAdamski, I suppose it depends on the context but yes, "clitoris" doesn't sound like a word that rhymes well with a Bond novel. Fleming presented a rather "sweaty" moment in TMWTGG, when describing a girl dancing naked and performing all sorts of pelvic motions in front of several aroused men. I still think he kept things tasteful by using colourful words rather than medical terms. Also, while I can appreciate a good sex scene in a film that knows how to handle it, I'm not so sure I need it in a book. Most sex scenes I have "read" in books come off as absurd attempts by an author to find some elevated poetry. It's not my thing, usually.
Given how global modern audiences are, no doubt EON are very aware of the differing cultural standards around the world
I often do wonder what the age-group of those who are censors is. I mean, do kids grow up thinking "man, I'd love to be a censor?"
Elderly busybodies.
At the risk of sounding ageist, I presume the older some people get, the more "censory" they become. While some of us grow more relaxed, others tense up. They become scared, forget who they once were, fail to understand the "new world", see a few kids play loud music and think society is in full decay. Moral panic ensues... That said, youth can be easily startled and shocked too.
Huh. Now I'm not sure anymore. My ageism may be a knife cutting two ways. Okay, I'll just say, my generation is the more tolerant. :-D
Make sure to take notes and copy down all conditions (temperature, pressure, ...) for the sake of reproducibility of your research. Oh, and share your findings with us.
Pictures and video, pictures and video...for research, of course, and thorough analysis.
I'm really looking forward to @mattjoes' Law of Conservation of Sex Scenes.
I've heard there's some on the internet but I'm not sure if it's true.
Everytime my, uh, scientific curiosity takes me there, my wife looks at me funny. I don't get it. My interest in these things is purely professional.
What is this 'sex' you speak of?
Put on something nice and I'll buy you some ice cream.
Oh, I don’t know about that. When I grew up in the 1970s, there was far more tolerance. - eg naked breasts were commonplace on prime time tv, whereas now it’s seems to be banned on the grounds it’s exploitation.
In the 70s, one of the few things to be banned was swearing, now there are far more ‘problematic’ issues. Just think about how many 20th century tv programmes are no longer allowed to be shown.
In reality, every generation seems to have its own hang ups.