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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,134
    Somewhat positive for me as I think 50% of DC films are great and the other not so great, DC5/Bond25 will be the deciding film for me regarding DC Bond tenure.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    I put very positive. CR I admired and appreciated what they were going for but didn't really enjoy and I hated QoS. So if you'd asked me this a few years ago it would have been somewhat positive veering on negative. But SF was great, SP was even better, and while I wasn't excited for Craig's return at first if they continue this trend of getting better and better with a YOLT adaptation it could be my favourite Bond film. So no complaints at the minute. I love the direction they're going in and SP has even made me in retrospect like his first two a bit better, because the wait/build up for all the classic Bond stuff has made it feel really earned.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    I'm very positive about the Craig era, although I admit that SP was a messy little step back. However, ever since DC took over the role, he made a very unique stamp and owned it, right from the get-go, and with supreme confidence.

    I didn't know too much about Craig before CR, but have since been able to explore his diverse filmography, including LOGAN LUCKY, this past weekend.

    I apologize and give notice to the anti-Craigites, but I must express that we have been gifted quite a wonderful actor as Bond, and I look forward to what he will give us in B25...
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I have voted very positive.
    While I have no intentions whatsoever to disparage anything that's come before, the Craig era has consistently supplied material of the highest quality in terms of acting and production value. I've had mixed responses to the stories of the last three films, but if story would serve as the ultimate barometer, many Bond films would suffer tremendously, starting with some of the Connery Bonds. When people knock on the Craig Bonds over their somewhat weaker stories, I often feel like they're forgetting what came before...

    I agree about the stories, but they are not my main issue. What I don't like is Bond's lack of sophistication, snobbery and the overall refined nature of the character that they seem to have forgotten about.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,134
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.

    That's the same for me SF and SP are very low in the rankings, where CR and QoS I rate highly I have said it before it's down to Craig's character in the respective films.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.

    That's the same for me SF and SP are very low in the rankings, where CR and QoS I rate highly I have said it before it's down to Craig's character in the respective films.

    And i thought i was the only one with those opinions.

    Anyway criag is getting the chance brosnan never did. To redeem himself after two shitty films. Will this be his FYEO?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,134
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.

    That's the same for me SF and SP are very low in the rankings, where CR and QoS I rate highly I have said it before it's down to Craig's character in the respective films.

    And i thought i was the only one with those opinions.

    Anyway criag is getting the chance brosnan never did. To redeem himself after two shitty films. Will this be his FYEO?

    Will be interesting to see what tone Eon go with for DC5, I am hoping a more down to earth film
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.

    That's the same for me SF and SP are very low in the rankings, where CR and QoS I rate highly I have said it before it's down to Craig's character in the respective films.

    And i thought i was the only one with those opinions.

    Anyway criag is getting the chance brosnan never did. To redeem himself after two shitty films. Will this be his FYEO?

    Will be interesting to see what tone Eon go with for DC5, I am hoping a more down to earth film

    I just want to see DC get pissed off and go ona a rampage against blofeld and spectre to conclude this continuity. Kind of like Qos i guess but more appealing to the masses this time.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,134
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've been debating this for days, see-sawing back and forth between 'Somewhat Positive' and 'Somewhat Negative.' His first two films make my Top 6 or so, whereas his latter two installments make the Bottom Two. I think B25 will be the decider for me, because right now I'd likely fall directly in the middle.

    However, if I was discussing Craig's actual take on the role and how I've perceived him in the era, then I'd definitely go with 'Somewhat Positive,' as he shined for me in CR-SF. In terms of general entertainment, it's a tough decision.

    That's the same for me SF and SP are very low in the rankings, where CR and QoS I rate highly I have said it before it's down to Craig's character in the respective films.

    And i thought i was the only one with those opinions.

    Anyway criag is getting the chance brosnan never did. To redeem himself after two shitty films. Will this be his FYEO?

    Will be interesting to see what tone Eon go with for DC5, I am hoping a more down to earth film

    I just want to see DC get pissed off and go ona a rampage against blofeld and spectre to conclude this continuity. Kind of like Qos i guess but more appealing to the masses this time.

    Gritty and Bond taking no prisoners no matter who the Villain is, if Blofeld did not return I would not be that bothered due to messing up the character so badly in SP.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,807
    Very positive. No reservations on that. No regrets.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    Current results:

    How would you describe your feelings about the Craig Bond era?
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    Vote: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll1848585x38f34bAd-49

    Results: http://www.poll-maker.com/results1848585xd19C4d96-49
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 732
    Very positive. CR, QoS and SF are awesome Bond movies to me - right next to the Connery classics of DN, FRWL, GF and TB. The Craig era to me is the best since Connery - but Sean remains King even some of his movies have been surpassed by CR.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,020
    1st good
    2nd so so
    3rd disastrous
    4th great
    That never happened to the other guys.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    1st good
    2nd so so
    3rd disastrous
    4th great
    That never happened to the other guys.


    DALTON RULEZ™

    Silly Mr Kleenex....

  • SharkBaitSharkBait
    Posts: 2,107
    Very positive. I enjoy CR, SP and QoS the best. But Skyfall isn't bad either. Just overrated.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Somewhat positive.

    CR is excellent, Skyfall is very good, QOS has grown on me over time. The only real downer for me is where they took Craig's arc in Spectre.
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044
    Somewhat slow
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Somewhat negative
    Love CR
    LOVE QOS
    HATE SF
    REALLY DISLIKE SP
    Bond 25 will be the decider but for now, its not going for a good trend
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited August 2017 Posts: 8,399
    CR 7.5/10

    Quantum of Solace 3/10

    SF 4/10

    SP 5/10

    Craig era overall 5/10
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited August 2017 Posts: 11,119
    I'm surprised that so many people can easily vote one of Craig's films lower than 4.0/10 or even 3.0/10. I know a lot more movies that are truly groce and deserve such a rating. Not the four Craig films. Furthermore, there's never "HATE" involved in any of the Bond films.

    So here's my list
    09.0/10: "Casino Royale"
    05.5/10: "Quantum Of Solace"
    08.5/10: "Skyfall"
    07.5/10: "SPECTRE"
    07.6/10: AVERAGE

    And to compare it with Brosnan's four film:
    06.5/10: "GoldenEye"
    05.0/10: "Tomorrow Never Dies"
    07.0/10: "The World Is Not Enough"
    04.0/10: "Die Another Day"
    05.6/10: AVERAGE

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    I'm surprised that so many people can easily vote one of Craig's films lower than 4.0/10 or even 3.0/10. I know a lot more movies that are truly groce and deserve such a rating. Not the four Craig films. Furthermore, there's never "HATE" involved in any of the Bond films.

    So here's my list

    09.0/10: "Casino Royale"
    05.5/10: "Quantum Of Solace"
    08.5/10: "Skyfall"
    07.0/10: "SPECTRE"

    What's your overall ranking? Eight?
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    1. Casino Royale (10/10)
    2. Skyfall (9/10)
    3. Spectre (7/10)
    4. Quantum of Solace (7/10)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,304
    Very positive. CR and SF were top-notch, and I'd classify both QoS and SP as "the parts are greater than the sum" movies (there are some really good scenes, and the ending of QoS is one of the defining scenes in the series, in my book). The talent, especially in front of the screen, that the Craig era has commanded is very impressive. I do think that Mendes has tilted the series a bit too far into nostalgia/bloat and I hope that someone else helms Bond 25.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,020
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  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    I'm surprised that so many people can easily vote one of Craig's films lower than 4.0/10 or even 3.0/10. I know a lot more movies that are truly groce and deserve such a rating. Not the four Craig films. Furthermore, there's never "HATE" involved in any of the Bond films.

    So here's my list

    09.0/10: "Casino Royale"
    05.5/10: "Quantum Of Solace"
    08.5/10: "Skyfall"
    07.0/10: "SPECTRE"

    What's your overall ranking? Eight?

    See my above update :-)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    I'm surprised that so many people can easily vote one of Craig's films lower than 4.0/10 or even 3.0/10. I know a lot more movies that are truly groce and deserve such a rating. Not the four Craig films. Furthermore, there's never "HATE" involved in any of the Bond films.

    So here's my list

    09.0/10: "Casino Royale"
    05.5/10: "Quantum Of Solace"
    08.5/10: "Skyfall"
    07.0/10: "SPECTRE"

    What's your overall ranking? Eight?

    See my above update :-)

    Thanks. Here's mine for Brosnan for context:

    GE 9

    TND 7

    The World Is Not Enough 7

    DAD 4
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited August 2017 Posts: 9,020
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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    GE 8
    Tnd 7
    Twine 2
    Dad 3
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    CR 7.5/10

    Quantum of Solace 3/10

    SF 4/10

    SP 5/10

    Craig era overall 5/10

    Seems a reasonable way to go about things Mendes:

    CR - 9.5/10
    QOS - 5.5/10
    SF - 8/10
    SP - 6.5/10

    Overall - 29.5/40 average of 7.4/10.

    Thats a pretty solid run of films I guess and overall and despite the glaring faults I am pretty happy with the Craig era.

    And certainly when compared with the rest we are in a golden era and only Sean has come close to consistently delivering similar scores.

    Sean

    DN - 8.5/10
    FRWL - 10/10
    GF - 8/10
    TB - 5.5/10
    YOLT - 7/10
    DAF - 3.5/10

    Overall - 42/60 average of 7/10

    George

    OHMSS - 10/10

    Overall 10/10 average of 10/10 (The George era is going to be pretty tough to beat for any future Bond!!)

    Rog

    LALD - 5.5/10
    TMWTGG - 3/10
    TSWLM - 7.5/10
    MR - 7.5/10
    FYEO - 7.5/10
    OP - 8/10
    AVTAK - 5/10

    Overall 44/70 average of 6.2/10

    Tim

    TLD - 8/10
    LTK - 6/10

    Overall 14/20 average of 7/10

    Pierce

    GE - 7.5/10
    TND - 7/10
    TWINE - 5.5/10
    DAD - 2.5/10

    Overall 22.5/40 average of 5.6/10

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