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Berry is capable of better, but she's terribly directed. She should have casually delivered at least half of her lines but instead she milks them like a Swiss maid.
And not a very good Swiss maid !!
If she was a maid she'd go on strike complaining that everyone was racist.....as usual....yawn!
Then she would need a jolly good milking,as Sir Roger would say !
About the characters:
About other aspects
That's about it. With this new-found knowledge, go watch The World Is Not Enough and bask in its brilliance.
Perfect post. Well said. I agree on everything. Such an underrated film. It different but doesn't forget that it's a Bond film.
I can't say about over- or underrated, I am new to these films. In a way TWINE feels like a foreshadowing of Skyfall and I would say both films did a lot of good for the actors. It's no wonder both are linked in my ranking side by side so to speak.
TWINE has a timeless feel to it that makes it a sure Bond classic for the future I might think. Especially because there is no color filters and bad editing style, shaky camera work or way too much CGI like in later films to this day.
TWINE even feels, to me, like the last of the "classic" Bond films with old-school directing, editing, DoP etc.
There are only four films in my Top 13 that are newer than 1977!
Those being CR - GE - SF - TWINE
I think it's sort of a prototype for the Craig era. It's a bit rough around the edges but you can see what they were trying to do, and to be honest I prefer it to a lot of the Craig movies because it's (for its time) more original and because they went in a different direction without feeling the need to ditch all the trappings (okay Christmas was pointless, they didn't need to do the Bond in bed with the girl trope, but y'know what, I like the gunbarrel, the gadgets, the one liners and I'm glad they kept all that).
I'm glad you mentioned the action scenes too because I've always thought they were really cool and inventive, I've never had an issue with them. Loads of memorable concepts and moments. Even when the caviar factory devolves into a simple gunfight you've got the henchmen popping up on different levels keeping things interesting, Bond shooting through the floor/ceiling, great stuff. I think the submarine finale is great too. It's original, the shots of Bond swimming outside are really tense, and even though the fight scene isn't exactly Bond vs Grant it feels really passionate, like both men are exhausted but giving it their all because they properly hate eachother, so I think the sloppiness is justified and it makes it enjoyable in a different sort of way.
Great point about Bond's resourcefulness in this one too. The whole "Brosnan's Bond relied on gadgets not his wits" is a myth. Tons of examples in TWINE of him using his wits/environment to get out of tough situations. And like you said, he really feels like a proper spy in this one.
I love this film and your post really summed up why, really well put.
By the way, to clarify, regarding the underwater swimming scene, I meant to say seeing Bond swimming outside the submarine while Christmas waits inside as the water flows in makes for a tense moment.
Same here,brilliantly done.
I think the whole caviar factory scene is excellent from start to finish.
And indeed,excellent post @mattjoes !!
I always find this a difficult film to pin down. The muted colours used (dark blues, browns) tend to subdue the look of the film, so it appears to be less vibrant and less visually pleasing than it actually is.
The attempt at a more dramatic and tense film is appreciated but the material is maybe not up to a standard worthy of a very solid acting cast. Any film featuring Pierce Brosnan, Sophie Marceau, Judi Dench, Robbie Coltraine and Robert Carlyle should never be sniffed at, but the dialogue doesn't always work, and I'm not convinced that the chemistry between Marceau and Carlyle works at all.
The direction is sometimes ponderous and the action sequences don't always work. But I like how the plot unfolds, the casino providing cover for the illegal payment, M's history with the King family and Bond's eventual doubts surfacing about Electra.
The intent is there, and I do enjoy watching it more now than I did at the time.
I feel that too. He is a bit weak, but then this weakness is necessary to show how really manipulated and used he is by Elektra.
Renard even realized that himself in a later scene.
Making him too menacing may have not worked.
Still, it's possible Renard was miscast.
Do you know a track that I really like? Welcome To Baku. Skip through the first 30 seconds.
Robert Carlyle is a great, intense actor and i would not have anybody else portray such a desperate and tragic man.
It's rather in the Nature of the Character itself to be less meanacing once you realize that he is just a pawn.
Same goes for Bane in TDKR once you realize that Thalia was behind it all.
A lot of fans felt that way about his character.
I enjoyed reading your post. It's nice to see some love over this misunderstood, underappreciated classic.
Another favorite track of mine as well. First 30 seconds included. :-bd
Love this, but for some reason I prefer it without the female voice, like in the film.
TWINE is my favorite Bond movie. Some days it's 2nd, some days is third, but some days it's first. It's definitely top5 Bond movies of all time, no doubt about it.
Great story, great PTS, great villain. Seriously, Renard is one of the most underrated villains in history. Elektra was bloody amazing in her role. Everything in this movie worked. The third act of the movie is so tense and amazing. Bond as his most cold blooded. He's joking while being tortured but the minute he's out he's the same old cold blooded assassin. I just love the movie.
*Fleming title.
*Bond actually seems to fall for Elektra because he sees her as this broken vulnerable young woman and wants to protect her. Fleming's Bond girls were often wounded and vulnerable and Bond was more of a romantic than he is in most of the movies, it wasn't just sex. And then when she shows her true colours Bond is in full on "the bitch is dead" mode.
*There's a torture scene.
*Bond a proper spy/detective who's loyal to the people he works for. He really comes across as a "sort of policeman" in this one.
*Bond is at his most physically resourceful.
*The characters. Physically deformed villain, a mix of posh high society types on the British end (could easily imagine Robert King being a mate of M's from Blades if it was a Fleming book) and colourful seedy characters when Bond is out in the field. The main characters are given real depth and backstories, and even the minor characters have little gimmicks to make them stand out (Goldie, Dreadlocked guy, cigar girl's leather catsuit) in the same vein as characters like the eyepatch guy from CR.
*Bond ends up emotionally involved as it goes on but what it still comes down to is him on a mission. He's got no personal stake in it when he's given the assignment and it is a real spy story.
*It's dark but isn't "gritty", the characters still live in that old fashioned high society world of posh blokes in suits, there's no sense that they're slumming it. A down to earth story but one set in casinos and historic castles, in offices offering eachother cigars and drinks, Bond's ally even owns a caviar factory. The snobbery is there in full force and it isn't just Bond, it's the world he's in, and that reminds me of Fleming because that was what he knew about and when his books were most convincing.
It's hard to put into words but I really do think TWINE nails the "feel" of Fleming's Bond. I think TND with its generic modern 90s take makes people forget about that, people seem to sort of lump them in together.
Again CR is a different kind of film, due to the story with large parts in a Casino and a love story at its center.
But TWINE has it all really. Probably the best film "on the whole" since The Spy Who Loved Me.
There's really nothing that doesn't work.
The Pts is out of this world in every single aspect and puts everything that came later in the series to shame.
The title song is classic Bond all over. Again what came afterwards can be discounted easily except YKMN.
David Arnold's best score and that's saying something.
Best villainous Bond girl by a country mile. Most complex character too. You can write a small book about Elektra, Renard, Bond and M.
Clearly Purvis and Wade's best script. In a way it's the only script that's really outstanding from them.
The only reason I have GoldenEye over TWINE is the dynamic between Alec and Bond, Xenia and Bond, the tank chase and a Brosnan that has all the fun in the world.
I have Skyfall pretty much tied up with TWINE in my ranking. SF's advantage over TWINE is Judi Dench ironically. While she's wonderful in TWINE, her leading part in SF makes it The Dench Chronicles. SF without Dench would simply fall apart and nothing much would be left. TWINE on the other hand has so many great leading characters.
This is the truth.