Do you believe in ghosts?

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Tracy wrote: »
    Walken is afraid of ghosts according to Walken family reunion skit :D

    He's probably scared of all of those miners he massacred coming after him. ;)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2021 Posts: 18,281
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The funny thing about this thread is that every time it shows up in the "hot list", I read the title and spontaneously answer, "no, of course not." :D
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The funny thing about this thread is that every time it shows up in the "hot list", I read the title and spontaneously answer, "no, of course not." :D

    That's good. Just testing. :)
  • Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts...

    I love vintage documentaries from the UK no matter the topic. Curious use of Howard Blake's Christmas classic "Walking in the Air" at 28:19 though.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts...

    I love vintage documentaries from the UK no matter the topic. Curious use of Howard Blake's Christmas classic "Walking in the Air" at 28:19 though.

    Yes, I started primary school in January 1989. I suppose as well as ghosts we had to worry about the small matter of the Cold War and nuclear conflagration back then too. Different times and different worries. I'm sure that it didn't exercise the mind of a 4 year old boy too much of course though I do remember the coverage of the Berlin Wall coming down later that year when I'd turned 5. I'm sure I was bemused by it all but I distinctly remember the news pictures on the TV screen. It was the big story of that time.
  • Dragonpol wrote: »
    I suppose as well as ghosts we had to worry about the small matter of the Cold War and nuclear conflagration back then too.

    I remember seeing Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2. I’m pretty sure the world was mainly worried about ghosts.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2021 Posts: 18,281
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I suppose as well as ghosts we had to worry about the small matter of the Cold War and nuclear conflagration back then too.

    I remember seeing Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2. I’m pretty sure the world was mainly worried about ghosts.

    No doubt about it then. However, it could be said that their fears went unrealised and were somewhat misdirected given what else was going on in the world at that time. A case of bread and circuses perhaps?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts....

    Were you not there?! :))
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2021 Posts: 18,281
    mtm wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts....

    Were you not there?! :))

    I think he was being dramatic there, Shakespearean even. We can allow him that much on a thread about ghosts. ;)

  • mtm wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts....

    Were you not there?! :))

    Lol, I should have said again. But at that age, I was more concerned about ghosts than Russia.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I suppose as well as ghosts we had to worry about the small matter of the Cold War and nuclear conflagration back then too.

    I remember seeing Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2. I’m pretty sure the world was mainly worried about ghosts.

    No doubt about it then. However, it could be said that their fears went unrealised and were somewhat misdirected given what else was going on in the world at that time. A case of bread and circuses perhaps?

    I'm not sure about bread, but circuses are plenty scary too. ;)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2021 Posts: 18,281
    mtm wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ghost Train - a BBC Halloween documentary from 1989:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1600&v=0_JFxehnXZI&feature=emb_title

    Oh to live in 1989...when all we had to worry about was ghosts....

    Were you not there?! :))

    Lol, I should have said again. But at that age, I was more concerned about ghosts than Russia.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I suppose as well as ghosts we had to worry about the small matter of the Cold War and nuclear conflagration back then too.

    I remember seeing Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2. I’m pretty sure the world was mainly worried about ghosts.

    No doubt about it then. However, it could be said that their fears went unrealised and were somewhat misdirected given what else was going on in the world at that time. A case of bread and circuses perhaps?

    I'm not sure about bread, but circuses are plenty scary too. ;)

    True, though I've never been to one. Only (appropriately for this thread) in spirit by watching Octopussy. For more on the subject, see my 2016 Killer Clowns thread! 🤡

    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/17134/send-in-the-killer-clowns/p1
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The funny thing about this thread is that every time it shows up in the "hot list", I read the title and spontaneously answer, "no, of course not." :D

    Same here. As a fan of old gothic horror and of spooky folklore, I wish I did though.

    Anecdote, I've been to Berry Pomeroy Castle, allegedly England's most haunted castle. According to one of the local books I bought, it has "an aura of malevolence ". Never felt it. It was a pleasant medieval castle on a lovely day.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The funny thing about this thread is that every time it shows up in the "hot list", I read the title and spontaneously answer, "no, of course not." :D

    Same here. As a fan of old gothic horror and of spooky folklore, I wish I did though.

    Anecdote, I've been to Berry Pomeroy Castle, allegedly England's most haunted castle. According to one of the local books I bought, it has "an aura of malevolence ". Never felt it. It was a pleasant medieval castle on a lovely day.

    It doesn't work if you're a sceptic. ;)
  • Posts: 15,123
    Well ghosts should exist or not regardless of one's belief in them.
    On a side note, a few years ago my wife once had a sort of experience that looked like a ghostly encounter of sorts. She's still a sceptic and still would not conclude that the experience was supernatural in nature.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Well ghosts should exist or not regardless of one's belief in them.
    On a side note, a few years ago my wife once had a sort of experience that looked like a ghostly encounter of sorts. She's still a sceptic and still would not conclude that the experience was supernatural in nature.

    I was jesting and of course you're right. Ghosts either exist or they don't.

    If you feel comfortable sharing your wife's experience here in this thread we'd be glad to hear it.
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    Humans have a tendency to not consider the shortcomings off our own senses, and understanding.

    Our eyes are very very easy to trick as anyone who has stated at a lightbulb for 20
    Second s will know. When you then look away there is no green/magenta floating orb it’s just the way your retina works.

    We have a tendency to fill in gaps with the outlandish. And of course fear affects our perception and interpretation of events.

    In short no I don’t believe in ghosts. That’s not to say I don’t get the chills every now and then in the dark.
  • Posts: 15,123
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Well ghosts should exist or not regardless of one's belief in them.
    On a side note, a few years ago my wife once had a sort of experience that looked like a ghostly encounter of sorts. She's still a sceptic and still would not conclude that the experience was supernatural in nature.

    I was jesting and of course you're right. Ghosts either exist or they don't.

    If you feel comfortable sharing your wife's experience here in this thread we'd be glad to hear it.

    I certainly will. Need to ask her first about the details to refresh my memory (and hers), it arrived about a decade ago so it's not very fresh.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    We are spirits in the material world.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    So this is not discussion on Intelligence Officers after all.

    But after that yeah, I was thinking in part Spirit in the Sky. Going to the place that's the best.

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Well ghosts should exist or not regardless of one's belief in them.
    On a side note, a few years ago my wife once had a sort of experience that looked like a ghostly encounter of sorts. She's still a sceptic and still would not conclude that the experience was supernatural in nature.

    I was jesting and of course you're right. Ghosts either exist or they don't.

    If you feel comfortable sharing your wife's experience here in this thread we'd be glad to hear it.

    I certainly will. Need to ask her first about the details to refresh my memory (and hers), it arrived about a decade ago so it's not very fresh.

    I understand, @Ludovico. Well, we'll certainly be interested in hearing it once you have it recalled to mind.
    So this is not discussion on Intelligence Officers after all.

    But after that yeah, I was thinking in part Spirit in the Sky. Going to the place that's the best.

    No, there's no Spooks here. Just spooks.

    Oh, and here's that song too:



    I'll spare us all the Gareth Gates version...
  • Posts: 15,123
    Well here it is, from memory: my wife went to see her sister and her boyfriend in a Wheterspoon that was in an older building, a former hotel if I'm not mistaken. I won't tell which pub because I don't want the place to become invaded by ghost hunters. I wasn't there that day because I was not feeling well (when I didn't want to see my sister in law that was my usual excuse). So at some point my wife went to the bathroom, where she heard, or thought she heard, a child, maybe a boy, talking, saying" "Hello, hello, don't be scared. Do you want to play with me?" Or something of the sort. She was not scared or troubled, she thought it was strange and thought little of it until she got back home and told me the story, saying that it was "just like in a ghost story."

    Now it's important to stress something: my wife is not certain she heard this and does not conclude that she heard a ghost or that the sound was of a supernatural nature. Also, and maybe more importantly, it happened in September. That may sound trivial, but from August until Halloween I read horror and ghost stories almost exclusively, particularly classic ghost stories, and it's a recurring topic in my conversations with the people who know me. So it is very possible that this played a role in her experience, and that it acted as a sort of confirmation bias. I will also add that we came back to this pub numerous times and nothing happened again.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I believe in the belief in ghosts, although I am a Non-believer in ghosts. I fully
    Believe in the rights of those who do believe.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    I believe in the belief in ghosts, although I am a Non-believer in ghosts. I fully
    Believe in the rights of those who do believe.

    I believe you :)>-
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I believe in the belief in ghosts, although I am a Non-believer in ghosts. I fully
    Believe in the rights of those who do believe.

    Yes, under the Ghost Believers' Rights Act 1998. ;)
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited March 2021 Posts: 2,529
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I believe in the belief in ghosts, although I am a Non-believer in ghosts. I fully
    Believe in the rights of those who do believe.

    Yes, under the Ghost Believers' Rights Act 1998. ;)

    That's a very important, well needed Act, indeed :)>-
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm all for the Believer's Rights Act
    as long as Believers don't Act on their Beliefs
    because that wouldn't be Right, or so I Believe. ;-)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Further to the Believer's act. I find some phrases are now unacceptable like.
    " Hasn't a ghost of a chance " . This is offensive to the ghost community not
    to mention the sexist terms like " Ghoulies " and " giving each other the Willies "
    This is 2021 People, we can do better than this. Time for a lot more Respect
    for the Ghost communities. If I ever return as a spirit, I'll be expecting Better.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    Further to the Believer's act. I find some phrases are now unacceptable like.
    " Hasn't a ghost of a chance " . This is offensive to the ghost community not
    to mention the sexist terms like " Ghoulies " and " giving each other the Willies "
    This is 2021 People, we can do better than this. Time for a lot more Respect
    for the Ghost communities. If I ever return as a spirit, I'll be expecting Better.

    You're absolutely correct. "Ghost Protocol"? This is me making a fist as I declare that I shall petition to have that film abolished and all copies of it destroyed! X(

    ;-)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    All your questions about ghosts answered here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0360djc
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