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Well, better than Doc Ock, I guess.
Meanwhile :
And isn´t that Djimon Hounsou from GotG? Is he the same character? Should I read more Comic books?
Of course he's a bad guy. But is he the bad guy? That's the real question.
Are Coulson, Fury and the cat in the same pose?
This is awesome. I hope she plays more than just a throwaway role.
Djimon Hounsou was recently in Aquaman, and he'll be in both Captain Marvel and Shazam!.
This is truly baffling to me. Important or not, it was above average at best.
Though at least it didn't get any VFX nods.
It's somewhat predictable, given the nature of these award things these days.
And, yes, he was in Guardians of the Galaxy.
And I’m boycotting the oscars
Especially in the current climate where identity whether it be national, race, gender seems to be at the forefront of all society issues/conversations, a movie that touched on that between the african/african american diaspora when it comes to race/national identity and did it that well with that end credit scene deserves every award it gets. Killmonger is arguably one of the best written villains in the MCU; pretty much every character had their value to the story and the costume, set production and soundtrack are amongst the best in the MCU if not the best.
Yes the action could've been better, MUCH better and although I feel the cgi issue is way overblown its still a minor mark on the movie in the third act, but the story, characters and themes and how well they combined is what spoke to me and so many others about the movie so all things considered it couldn't have been a more deserving movie to represent the genre.
Amandla!
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/01/22/black-widow-mcu-filming-start-date-production/
This is good news.
First of all, to all the people going on about, “It got a nom because of politics!”, “SJW propaganda!”, “The Dark Knight or Logan should’ve been the first!”, etc. and just being overwhelmingly bothered or raging about Black Panthers best picture Oscar nomination:
Yeah, Oscar win or lose I'm happy regardless despite the legions of people who apparently still lose sleep over award nominations.
This best picture nomination legitimizes a genre many people love and is practically carrying Hollywood when everyone had/has looks down on it. Maybe one day Bond can actually get a best picture Oscar nomination. We now know it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility.
Now secondly, thanks for sharing your opinion on what you think is Oscar-worthy art. Arguments can be made the world went mad when Denzel didnt win best actor for Malcolm X or the fact that SF and SP won Oscars for best song. One can say a lot about how the Oscars have played out. Any awards show isn't always going to align with persinal preferences obviously. People will and can think what they like. I saw Roma and as much as i can appreciate it for what it is, it was an ardous and laborious chore to get through. In fact I found it to be a waste if time having sat through it but that's my informed personal opinion. I don't care that you don't care that I liked black panther even if you liked it. That wasnt my point. I've seen so many baseless reasons as to why black panther or certain films or actors isn't worthy of Oscars when such people don't even fully know how the Oscars actually work. Speaking of agendas, Roma typically, because of the film's screening format wouldn't even get a nomination at the Oscars let alone one for best picture and director; but now Tom's in the running? It's not hard to see why that is; but in any case the unfair and nonsensical privelage that the Oscars have been afforded for the better part of forever is finally slowly but surely seeing a correction towards being a lot more reasonable. However, in light of subjective perspectives and in this case regarding black panther, Oscar nominations deserved or not; Oscar win or not, there are some actual facts cemented to consider that no amount of dissapproval or salty tears can take away from. Objectively speaking:
Significant cultural impact
First film with a predominantly black cast to have a budget of over $100Million
The 3rd film cowritten and directed by a 32 year old
$700 mil domestic
Highest grossing domestic film of 2018
$1.344 billion WW
A+ Cinemascore (Very Important testament to audience opinion)
97% RT score
8.2/10 RT rating
100% Top Critics RT score
8.9/10 Top Critics RT Rating
88 metacritic score
First and only comic book film to get an Oscar best picture nomination
7 Oscar nominations
MTV Award winner
Teen Choice Award Winner
Peoples Choice Award Winner
BET Award Winner
Satellite Award Winner
Critics Choice Award Winner
Dominated the money (aka the audience), dominated the critics, dominated awards....
Amplified:
Domestic Total: $700,059,566
#1 Super Hero Movie
#1 MCU Movie
#3 Movie, only 3rd movie to cross $700 million
#1 Movie of 2018
#1 February Release
4th Fastest to $300 million
2nd Fastest to $350 million
2nd Fastest of $400 million
#30 Movie All-Time Adjusted for Inflation
Worldwide Total: $1,346,913,161
#8 Movie (currently #9) All Time
#1 Solo Super Hero Movie All Time
#1 Movie by a Black Director All Time
#3 MCU movie (currently #4) All Time
33rd Movie to reach one billion
#2 Movie in 2018
#33 Movie All-Time Adjusted for Inflation
Opening Domestic Weekend: $202,003,951
#2 Comic Book Movie (currently #3)
#5 Movie (currently #6)
#1 President's Day Weekend
#1 Movie by a Black Director
#1 Monday Gross
#1 Non-Sequel
#8 Single Day
#8 Friday
#4 Saturday
#2 Sunday
Other Statistics:
Five Weekends at #1 (first movie since Avatar, 4th movie in 20 years)
#2 Non-Opening Weekend ($111.6 million)
#2 Non-Opening Saturday
#2 Ten Day Domestic Total
#3 Third Weekend Domestic Gross ($66.3 million)
#3 Fourth Weekend Domestic Gross ($40.8 million)
#4 Fifth Weekend Domestic Gross ($26.65 million)
#4 Sixth Weekend Domestic Gross ($16.7 million)
#7 Seventh Weekend Domestic Gross ($11.263 million)
DVD Sales:
1,495,840 Units Sold
$26,119,993
#3 in 2018
Blu-Ray Sales:
2,922,802 Units Sold
$64,445,224
#2 in 2018
Critics:
A+ Cinemascore:
2nd Comic Book Movie (Avengers first)
2nd MCU Movie (Avengers first)
Rotten Tomatoes:
97% Tomatometer
8.2/10 Average Rating
100% Top Critics Tomatometer
8.9/10 Top Critics Average Rating
#1 ranked movie, action/adventure, scifi/fantasy of all time by adjusted score
Metacritic:
88 Rating
55 Positive Reviews
0 Mixed Reviews
0 Negative Reviews
#1 (tie) Rated Wide Release of 2018
#1 Most Shared of 2018
Award Wins:
Critic's Choice Movie Awards:
Best Art Direction
Best Costume Design
Best Visual Effects
MTV Movie and TV Awards:
Movie of the Year
Best Actor- Chadwick Boseman
Best Hero- Chadwick Boseman
Best Villain- Michael B. Jordan
BET Awards:
Best Movie
Best Actor- Chadwick Boseman (Black Panther and Marshall)
People's Choice Awards:
Male Movie Star of the Year- Chadwick Boseman
Action Movie Star of the Year- Danai Gurira
Teen Choice Awards:
Choice Sci-Fi Movie
Choice Sci-Fi Movie Actress- Letitia Wright
Choice Villain- Michael B. Jordan
Golden Tomato Awards:
Best Reviewed Wide Release
Best Comic Book/Graphic Novel Movie
Best Movie Wide Release
Satellite Awards:
Auteur Award- Ryan Coogler
Best Visual Effects
Saturn Awards:
Best Comic-to-Motion Picture Release
Best Supporting Actress in a Film- Danai Gurira
Best Film Director
Best Film Production Design
Best Film Make Up
American Music Awards:
Favorite Soundtrack
Award Nominations:
Oscar/Academy Awards Nominations: (seven nominations is the highest for a superhero film)
Best Picture (first superhero movie)
Best Costume Design (first superhero movie)
Best Original Song
Best Original Score
Best Sound Mixing
Best Sound Editing
Best Production Design
BET Awards Nominations:
Album of the Year
Best Actor- Michael B. Jordan
Best Actress- Angela Bassett
Best Actress- Lupita Nyong'o
Best Actress- Letitia Wright
Billboard Music Awards Nomination:
Best Soundtrack
Critic's Choice Movie Award Nominations:
Best Picture
Best Action Movie
Best Acting Ensemble
Best Supporting Actor
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Cinematography
Best Hair and Make Up
Best Song
Best Score
Golden Globe Award Nominations:
Best Motion Picture- Drama
Best Original Score
Best Original Song
Grammy Award Nomination:
Album of the Year
Song of the Year
Record of the Year
Best Rap/Sung Performance
Best Song Written for Visual Media
Best Rap Performance
Best Rap Song
Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media
MTV Movie and TV Award Nominations:
Best Scene Stealer
Best Fight- Black Panther vs M'baku
Best On-Screen Team
People's Choice Award Nominations:
Movie of the Year
Action Movie of the Year
Action Movie Star of the Year- Chadwick Boseman
Screen Actors Guild Award Nominations:
Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture
Outstanding Performance by a Stunt Ensemble in a Motion Picture
Writer's Guild of America Nomination:
Adapted Screenplay
Teen Choice Award Nominations:
Choice Sci-Fi Movie Actor- Chadwick Boseman
Choice Sci-Fi Movie Actress- Lupita Nyong'o
Choice Sci-fi Movie Actress- Danai Gurira
Choice Collaboration
Choice Break Out
Choice Lip Lock- Chadwick Boseman and Lupita Nyong'o
Choice Ship- Chadwick Boseman and Lupita Nyong'o
Choice R&B/Hip Hop Song
Satellite Award Nominations:
Best Film
Best Original Song
Best Cinematography
Best Costume Design
Best Art Direction and Production Design
Best Sound
Saturn Award Nominations:
Best Actor in a Film- Chadwick Boseman
Best Actress in a Film- Lupita Nyong'o
Best Supporting Actor in a Film- Michael B. Jordan
Best Performance by a Younger Actor in a Film- Letitia Wright
Best Film Screenplay
Best Film Editing
Best Film Music
Best Film Costume Designer
Best Film Special/Visual Effects
Roma was also nominated, though I don't know for what categories, so I think your own personal agenda is a little misguided here.
Listen, I like action flicks as much as the next dude. I'm on Bond forums, aren't I? But I don't have delusions and I am a cinephile and always have been. So I do know what makes for a good film. Damn it, I've studied it intensively throughout my life. I've even have written thesis about the subject. Not that any of that matters.
I knew you guys would react to my opinion like that, but remember, I'm only analysing the film through the cinematic quality of the piece. I don't care about agendas, I care about art. Sure, everything in today's world is subjective - way to decharacterize and censorship informed and valuable opinions! To conclude, I'm in the wrong here, because I shouldn't consider the oscars or any form of prize/award attribution as a marker for good art. It isn't in cinema, it isn't in literature, it isn't in painting, nor in music.
It's all politics, my friends - and I use the term here as is used in politology. All awards are.
So, why am I dishing it out on a Marvel thread? Damn, you're right. I must leave. I do apologise for the intrusion. Not my turf. Wait, maybe I do have a personal agenda. I'm sick of superhero films having this much attention. It's ridiculous. Spielberg said it would be worse than with the Westerns. And he was right. It's a fever, and a low quality one a that. Yeah, so the public wants it. It also wants pop music made on automatic computer generators and sang by made up teen stars or sold out wannabes. And books about vampire teenage love or bdsm acephalic characters.
Again, what am I doing on a superhero thread? You're absolutely right. My renewed apologies. Carry on.
Cherio ;)
The real problem is that you're barking up the wrong tree. What makes "great cinema" is a subjective thing, not set in some stone that is now being pissed on. I've seen Oscar winners I've felt extremely undeserving, but I'm not in charge of picking the nominees or the winners.
So while you may consider superhero movies or Bond movies "not great cinema", understand that someone, potentially someone who makes these decisions, disagrees with you, and neither your word nor theirs is invalid. You see this as an agenda, others do not. I see your own statements as an agenda, you do not. Mere differences of opinion and not statements of supreme fact.
I wonder what route they are going to the Black Widow film down? Is it post snap, Nat struggling to adjust being only a spy. I do hope this is going to be thriller-equse and suspenseful like.
I thought something along the lines of a Red Sparrow would work as a origin story.
Any thoughts chaps?
Just one more thing before I leave the thread. Remember when I said this:
Sure, everything in today's world is subjective - way to decharacterize and censorship informed and valuable opinions!
I stand by this. The weapon of the uninformed is the subjectivity card. Sure, globalisation and social networking have widen the range of opinions and given an apparent validity to each and everyone. But let's not fool ourselves. There are still people on the know and people who just opinate because they can. Many of us are the latter (see that I did here, I was nice enough to put us in the same smallish box).
See you in another threads, dear chap. I promise to be even nicer there.
Cheers.
As a massive fan of Winter Solider, I hope that Marvel will double down that "thriller" aspect. No doubt this will be a smaller production, but will it find an audience? After a big, purple alien wiped out half the lifeforms in the Universe, who cares about a Russian spy. (Is the inevitable complaint, one would expect to hear)
That would be a perfect route for a Black Widow film. Keeping it a bit more grounded and smaller in scope would be a welcomed contrast to the rest of the MCU too.
I still have my doubts that this film is actually happening though.
Agreed that the contrast would be the big draw. Although I wonder how Black Widow will fit in with the rest of Marvel's Phase 4?