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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I will certainly give it a go then, thank you. I see it has just appeared on Disney+.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    mtm wrote: »
    I will certainly give it a go then, thank you. I see it has just appeared on Disney+.

    Just watched GOTG 3 myself on Disney +, resubbed just for GOTG 3. The villain really is a nasty piece of work, arguably the best villain the MCU has ever had The High Evolutionary is just pure evil.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited August 2023 Posts: 8,183
    GOTG3 is why I have faith in Gunn handling SUPERMAN, assuming WB just lets him do his thing without executive meddling.

    I also think this is Chris Pratt’s best acting performance. I haven’t liked him in a lot of non-GOTG stuff, and even in the first two films he didn’t quite nail the emotional beats like when he finds out what happened with his mother (IMO). But on 3 he really sold the raw emotions his character goes through,
    like at the very beginning when he’s at the bottom of the barrel with his drinking. I really bought his despair when he thought he lost Rocket for good on the operating table.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I think Pratt has been consistent throughout the GOTG films, I think his reaction to how his mother got cancer is one of his best moments.

    Gunn is not afraid to go dark which adds a lot of weight to his films, I am still not sure what to expect regarding Superman Legacy though it will be fun.

    Gunn's DC Universe will likely be close to the Justice League Unlimited animated series which is probably the best way to go regarding his style. I won't complain when I see Watch Tower in Earth's orbit.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    DCAU’s JL was what I always hoped to see depicted on the big screen. The first AVENGERS came close to that in spirit. Ironically, even with Whedon’s cut it didn’t come close to that.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    Punisher: Dirty Laundry | Bootleg Universe (2012)
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    LOKI SEASON 2 "Loki Gets Pulled Through Time" Trailer (NEW 2023)
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    If they did a period Marvel film/series that were to be a tribute to the classic Marvel era, what decade would you prefer it to be set?
    The 50's? the 60's? The 70's?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’d say with their respective origin eras, like Fantastic Four and Spider-Man being in the 60s.

    It’s least we got a WWII era film with Captain America.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 5,993
    Found that one in a little videoshop in Paris :

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    But after buying the Batman 1966 TV series set, I had no money left to buy this one.

    Oh, and one thing more : despite being an american pressing, it's all regions. Great for me.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Loki S2 Ep1 promising start, I think it was a mistake featuring Kang n Quantumania, they should have built the intrigue and back story here. The scene's with Shortround were a lot of fun. I will definitely give this a second watch.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited October 2023 Posts: 4,626
    https://www.cbr.com/zak-whedon-on-joss-whedon-the-avengers/

    https://www.cbr.com/kevin-feige-two-names-not-work-with-again/

    Doesn’t surprise me. Both of their careers are done, due to their difficulties. Sadly, the MCU is still copying Whedon’s writing with trying to write poor, quippy one-liner humor. Joss Whedon doesn’t practice what he preaches.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I think there’s a big difference between Whedon’s writing and everyone’s imitation of his writing. Whedon had a better understanding of character dynamics which is why the quips worked as well as they did in his films, whereas the films that tried imitating his humor made the mistake of having every character making quips. That’s the Marvel machine at work. They take something that worked for certain characters and try to make it into a one size fits all, which doesn’t work.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2023 Posts: 25,092
    Marvel Studios' Echo | Official Trailer | Disney+ and Hulu
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    THE MARVELS Final Trailer (4K ULTRA HD) NEW 2023

    Talk about getting desperate.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Marvel Studios' Echo | Official Trailer | Disney+ and Hulu

    That's a pretty brilliantly-made trailer. I don't particularly want to watch the show, but whoever made the trailer did a great job.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Loki S2 Finale The season was a mixed bag though the finale ended on a strong note and made me interested again. The finale is easily the best thing MCU have done in quite some time.
  • edited November 2023 Posts: 311
    THE MARVELS Final Trailer (4K ULTRA HD) NEW 2023

    Talk about getting desperate.

    I don't understand this big criticism of Marvel post-Endgame movies.
    Yes, the last few films since Shang-Chi and Spiderman: No Way Home were weaker, but Marvel is still on top when it comes to films based on comic books.
    Sometimes I have the impression that after Endgame, people criticize films for the sake of criticism.

    BTW. Yes. I watched The Marvels and really liked the movie. It had a lot of humor and action. Especially Ms. Marvel's family was very lovely.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited November 2023 Posts: 24,177
    Librarian wrote: »
    I don't understand this big criticism of Marvel post-Endgame movies.
    Yes, the last few films since Shang-Chi and Spiderman: No Way Home were weaker, but Marvel is still on top when it comes to films based on comic books.

    There is almost zero competition, and DC shot itself in the foot by trying to be the MCU. I agree, though, that the MCU hasn't been piling up stinkers one after the other, but for me, the issue is two-fold:

    1) The greed is becoming too obvious. Of course, films like these exist for the money--I'm not naive. But the MCU has so blatantly become a factory that is squeezing its oranges dry, almost to dust, both the big and the small ones, that one cannot but feel like our pockets are being shaken for all the pennies and small change that we have left. We're not allowed to breathe, to take a pause, to build anticipation, and to look forward to another big event. We can't even rewatch the MCU at a normal pace between the 'last' one and the 'next' one anymore, because meanwhile we have another Disney+ show to catch up with. You walk out of the theatre with half a dozen other ones lined up. It's like we're back in the '80s when Hasbro released toy after toy for Transformers and G.I. Joe, with kids screaming they "want it" and parents barely able to keep up. It's no fun anymore when watching the MCU has become homework with deadlines to meet.

    2) While not always disappointingly bad, many of the MCU films have become either 'more of the same, again' or 'have they gone mad?' [In the voice of the captain of TND. ;-)] Part of the reason why comics constantly start over is that eventually, all those plot twists and events and substories and what have you become one big mess, too large and too intricate to maintain some kind of grip on. Throw too many good ingredients on a plate and you're stuck with something inedible. I honestly think that by now the MCU has reached the point of narrative oversaturation. If they want to include the X-Men as well in the future, it's going to get even bigger. One wonders what sort of 2- to 3-hour canvas can hold such a big world. And to be honest, I have read Avengers/X-Men team-up comics, and I generally dislike them. When every character gets a panel or two and nothing more, it's hard if not impossible to tell a compelling story anymore.

    Phases 1 and 2 of the MCU were doing it for me. The balance was perfect. Phase 3 was starting to flirt with danger. But since Endgame, it's not so much that the films have lost it, but that they both feel exhausting and unoriginal. And let's just be honest, the multiverse thing isn't doing them any favors either. It may be fun, in that moment, to watch all three cinematic Spider-Men in one big adventure, but how can we tell a follow-up story to that with a straight face?

    Now, I'll probably just continue to tag along, even though I'm currently a few films and series behind -- no way you can combine a job and raising a child and watching films in various genres with keeping up with the MCU. Right now, in fact, I'd rather keep up with The Kardashians (not true, only with Kendall Jenner ;-) ) than with the MCU.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Just caught THE MARVELS, I thought it was a light fun lark of a movie. Definitely do not get the hate it’s supposedly getting.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    Just caught THE MARVELS, I thought it was a light fun lark of a movie. Definitely do not get the hate it’s supposedly getting.

    It's because it has Brie Larson in it, that's why.
    Also, ever since Phase IV began, people have been calling out it's utter "poopo".
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Just caught THE MARVELS, I thought it was a light fun lark of a movie. Definitely do not get the hate it’s supposedly getting.

    It's because it has Brie Larson in it, that's why.
    Also, ever since Phase IV began, people have been calling out it's utter "poopo".

    I don’t get the hate.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I like Brie Larson.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    I like Brie Larson.

    But most people do, for no reason at all.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I like Brie Larson... the MCU since Endgame has not been very good, I can only think of 2 films that were of pre Endgame standards.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't despise Larson or anything like some folk seem to, but I don't find her especially charismatic as a star. And when I watched the Capt Marv film I remember she had this peculiar thing of doing a sort of smirk all the time which was just a bit weird.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't despise Larson or anything like some folk seem to, but I don't find her especially charismatic as a star. And when I watched the Capt Marv film I remember she had this peculiar thing of doing a sort of smirk all the time which was just a bit weird.

    I agree with you on both things. She always looks kind of constipated in promotion materials as Captain Marvel. Plus, her mole on her face is really distracting. I still think Scarlett Johansson is worse. https://www.insider.com/scarlett-johansson-controversy-timeline-most-divisive-moments
    Overall, I don’t want the MCU to be done, but I think it really needs to take a break. Also, rethink on some of the ways they portray themselves, namely in humor.
    P.S. Samuel L Jackson is getting boring. When he’s Nick Fury, he’s truly in autopilot mode.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Post Endgame. I only enjoyed Spiderman NWH, Loki, and to an extent, Hawkeye. Ever since Disney took over, it's just too saturated. 10 years ago, we were only getting the franchise films and that was more than sufficient.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2023 Posts: 16,377
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't despise Larson or anything like some folk seem to, but I don't find her especially charismatic as a star. And when I watched the Capt Marv film I remember she had this peculiar thing of doing a sort of smirk all the time which was just a bit weird.

    I agree with you on both things. She always looks kind of constipated in promotion materials as Captain Marvel. Plus, her mole on her face is really distracting. I still think Scarlett Johansson is worse. https://www.insider.com/scarlett-johansson-controversy-timeline-most-divisive-moments
    Overall, I don’t want the MCU to be done, but I think it really needs to take a break. Also, rethink on some of the ways they portray themselves, namely in humor.
    P.S. Samuel L Jackson is getting boring. When he’s Nick Fury, he’s truly in autopilot mode.

    I find Johansson better: she's got more presence for my money.

    I agree with it being done for a little while- they slowed down on Star Wars so I wonder why this is still full steam ahead. I think an issue with this film is it's some not-terribly famous superheroes who aren't massively imagination-grabbing, and not even played by big loved stars. They can fly and shoot lasers and are really strong and wear silly, over-designed outfits... just like all the other ones. There's not much exciting or new about their powers. I just don't feel the need to watch it. I've heard it's pretty decent fun and is less than 2 hours which is great, but there's no incentive to go and see it right now.
    I think a Fantastic 4 or X Men might make a bit more of a splash.
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