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Yes, but sadly not Bond.
if there are fans insane enough to claim that GE is a classic it doesn't surprise me there are others laying into GF and TSWLM - two sides of the same coin
Quite a lot of people would call GE a classic Bond film in the sense that it was the one which got them into the series. I'm one of them. As I've said before its hands-down my most watched Bond film in the 22 years I've been a fan. That makes it a classic in my eyes...or at least an important Bond film.
i'd happily watch woody Harrelson and Bill Murray in king pin until the cows come home. doesn't make it a classic.
actually may be it does.
But GE definitely is not. it doesn't deserve to clean the boots of the Connery era. DAF included
I will admit that GE objectively is not as good as most of the Connery era, but it is a film I'm fond of as it played a huge part in my Bond fandom. The term "classic" is utterly subjective anyway. A lot of fans would call OP a classic but I know of other perfectly intelligent, sane people who call it dull, boring and one of the worst in the series.
FRWL is a classic. OP is highly entertaining twaddle. the fact I happen to love OP doesn't mean I think it's a classic.
of course we can diverge from mainstream opinion and disagree on what is classic but over time it is hard to avoid the fact that some things just retain their appeal and continue to resonate.
I have no doubt that GE was immensely popular with a certain (now ageing) demographic but do today's 15 year olds hold GE in such high regard? May be. frankly I don't know and probably care less. if they do then I feel sorry for them.
A classic is defined as "judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind" according to google.
In this case I would say the early Connery films are almost universally regarded as classics of their kind. All the films since seem to be subject to personal opinion. Some regard them as classics, others don't.
In nearly all cases nostalgia and how you viewed the film at the time of it's release seems to be a factor.
perhaps the only bona fide classic post Connery is TSWLM IMO.
I agree but there are people out there who don't like the film.
I do agree that something being regarded as a classic isn't very subjective, but still, no need to berate others for how they feel.
+1 Goldeneye sure is a classic to me, it's my personal number 1 and even without nostalgia would easily make the top 5. And i have not seen any reason why i should change my mind on that. And i sure won't find any on this site.
I know many people who agree with that. What is rather sad to me is, that so called Bond fans will trash the movie even though it brought a ton of new Bond fans into the series and consequently helped keep the series alive for years.
It tells you something about popular demand.
Thank you.
If one loosely defines a classic as a film that's more than a couple of decades old that's still fondly remembered by some, then sure. But that would apply to most of the Bond films, aside from the few films that are usually reviled (and even those have their defenders). GE was well-reviewed and well-received at the time for predictable reasons, but I don't know if its reputation has significantly risen since then. And the Brosnan era as a whole doesn't seem to have aged well in light of Craig's tenure.
Perhaps because of the weakness of the remaining competitors--Brosnan's subsequent films and Craig's other two films. As for Dalton's entries, fewer people have watched them, but those who have often place TLD in the best of the past three decades list.
It’s difficult to envision how the film changes when one element is tweaked. Tonally, so forth. Smallest changes can have huge impacts. Almost butterfly effect.
That said, very interesting to see some of the suggestions. I agree with a few of @Birdleson’s. Strongly disagree regarding Xenia, as I think Famke’s performance is deliciously savage. She often feels like an amped up Fiona, unapologetically unhinged and sexually vicious. I think GE is one of the best examples of balancing/utilizing OTT elements and characters and not allowing them to careen out of control into pure camp (which also has its charm).
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Overall that’s a great list of Top 11 most definitive Bond films. I think you could argue for LALD and FYEO as well. Not to say there aren’t other good Bond films, but those 13 are probably the best representation for what James Bond is all about.
nothing after TLD qualifies for me personally. I can see why CR is on there but it's not an easy rewatch for me - drags and is overlong