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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Jesus! Or rather Mohammad (police be upon him!)
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Jesus! Or rather Mohammad (police be upon him!)
    I'm frankly not interested in your hate. You can take it somewhere else and maybe learn to respect others.

    Disrespect the profit one more time and I'll ban you with the touch of a button.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Jesus! Or rather Mohammad (police be upon him!)
    I'm frankly not interested in your hate. You can take it somewhere else and maybe learn to respect others.

    Disrespect the profit one more time and I'll ban you with the touch of a button.
    You're joking now right?

    You can't even spell 'profit' (sic) such is your devotion.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Of course I meant prophet. Autocorrect got the best of me but I cam assure you I'm not joking.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Aren t you going to ban the Wizard, too? He doesnt t respect your profit, either.
  • patbpatb
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    Being inspired by something doesn't make it real.

    Any religion will be very happy for any new member to ignore this fact.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Oh God, not the button! I'm sure it does more than ban...
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    Oh God, not the button! I'm sure it does more than ban...

    Yes, it launches rockets too.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    ENOUGH!!!!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I am done here anyway. In jail, if I have internet, I also have another IP and will get me another name.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Or maybe just stay here. Jake is dumb, but he can t be THAT dumb.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Oh boy you got me. With Easter being today I forgot the date itself.

    Maybe that quantum physics argument is an April Fool's joke too.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Oh boy you got me. With Easter being today I forgot the date itself.

    Maybe that quantum physics argument is an April Fool's joke too.

    The whole thread is an April Fool's joke. Funny, as I created it in July...
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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    jake24 wrote: »
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    Bastard. That's ruined my evening as I was about to launch into an anti Islamic tirade.

    Fair play though Sir. What a bunch of gullible mugs we are - no wonder we spend so much time in the religion thread.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Maybe that quantum physics argument is an April Fool's joke too.
    Well @Risico007 is certainly a joke but he manages to keep it up all year round though.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
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    Bastard. That's ruined my evening as I was about to launch into an anti Islamic tirade.

    Fair play though Sir. What a bunch of gullible mugs we are - no wonder we spend so much time in the religion thread.
    We were considering waiting for that, but ultimately we felt it was time to pull the plug.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Well at least we can all laugh at ourselves that we got taken in.

    The religious don't have that luxury.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Well at least we can all laugh at ourselves that we got taken in.

    The religious don't have that luxury.

    Careful now! You re on thin ice.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I enjoyed this. Gonna have to bookmark this page.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I have met this beautiful broad whose family are part of the political and financial elite, so my conversion process into satanism has now begun.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    Hopefully this science is dumbed down enough for you wizard if not I will try and find puppets for you



    And since you call me a joke we’ll get mr science teacher in here to did prove this pronto
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    You still haven't explained how do you go from Quantum physics to the existence of souls. Or from: "many historians consider that Jesus existed" to "Jesus resurrected and was the Son of God ". I wonder if you're not picking up words at random and throw them here hoping that one would stick to your faith.

    I had pasta yesterday. Proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true God.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Hopefully this science is dumbed down enough for you wizard if not I will try and find puppets for you

    Another post, another pseudoscientific video that collapses after a simple google search: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Piczek

    Strange how her biog recounts a degree in fine arts from the the Academy of Fine Arts in Budapest but makes no mention of any degree in particle physics. In fact you struggle to find any reference to her as such outside your video whereas if you take an actual renowned scientist at random, let's say Stephen Hawking for example, it isn't difficult to unearth a list of his qualifications.

    The only puppets on show are all the alleged 'scientists' you keep unearthing whose main agenda is to sell books and lectures to the gullible rather that strive for the truth.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I wonder if you're not picking up words at random and throw them here hoping that one would stick to your faith.
    I think you might be onto something here:
    Risico007 wrote: »
    we’ll get mr science teacher in here to did prove this pronto
    Certainly randomly flicking through the dictionary and picking out words would likely yield more coherent results.

  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Oh and the Shroud of Turin has been debunked years ago. Even the Catholic Church knows it's not genuine but keeps saying to the gullible that it's OK to use it as object of devotion.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-43614744

    Heartening news, from a country that is 70% Catholic, that the evangelical Christian candidate got trounced by the one supporting gay marriage. Ever so slowly the pernicious influence of religion is steadily being eroded and people are waking up.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Oh and the Shroud of Turin has been debunked years ago. Even the Catholic Church knows it's not genuine but keeps saying to the gullible that it's OK to use it as object of devotion.

    Debunked? How? If you are referring the radio carbon dating the issue is the tests were done improperly to say the least... I will let some Italian scientists point it out

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10631973/Turin-Shroud-may-date-from-time-of-Jesus.html

    Again Lud have you done any science research since 1988? I hate to tell you this but two things

    Mullets have gone out of fashion
    Science has progressed since 1988


    I know I am shocked to
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Oh and the Shroud of Turin has been debunked years ago. Even the Catholic Church knows it's not genuine but keeps saying to the gullible that it's OK to use it as object of devotion.

    Debunked? How? If you are referring the radio carbon dating the issue is the tests were done improperly to say the least... I will let some Italian scientists point it out

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10631973/Turin-Shroud-may-date-from-time-of-Jesus.html

    Again Lud have you done any science research since 1988? I hate to tell you this but two things

    Mullets have gone out of fashion
    Science has progressed since 1988


    I know I am shocked to
    Not as shocked as I am to see you post a link featuring an actual scientist with a credible CV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Carpinteri

    But of course in your confused state you fail to observe that by triumphantly posting this link you undermine your whole assertion that the image on the cloth was magically seared into the fabric by the power of God:

    "We believe it is possible that neutron emissions by earthquakes could have induced the image formation on the Shroud's linen fibres, through thermal neutron capture on nitrogen nuclei, and could also have caused a wrong radiocarbon dating," said Professor Alberto Carpinteri, from the Politecnico di Torino."

    So if this hypothesis (the article clearly points out that this is all it is, but as we know how desperate you are to clutch at the slightest straw that comes your way we'll ignore that for the time being) is actually true then the image was merely a similar process to an X-ray you'd get at the doctors and so reduces the magical imprint of Christ down to something mundane and explainable.

    Also even if this theory could be proven it would in no way follow that the image on the cloth is Christ any more than it might be one of thousands of blokes with beards who were crucified by the Romans and then had their image seared into the cloth by a convenient neutron burst.

    Once again your attempted 'arguments' are more full of holes than St. Sebastian.
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Science has progressed since 1988
    If nothing else you do a good line in irony, I will give you that.

  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I'd add to what @TheWizardOfIce said what the video Preti I posted before: the Shroud has a picture that is an artistic representation of what people at the time thought a crucified Jesus would look like, not how a man executed by crucifixion by the Romans would look like. Even the Church refuses to commit itself to say it's genuine.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Even if it is proven the shroud dates to c.33AD, what does that prove? Absolutely nothing! It simply proves that you have a 2000-year-old burial shroud. Historically interesting, yes, and relatively unique, but the connection between this cloth and Jesus Christ is stretching the imagination so far as to be ridiculous. Only the faithful will believe it anyway, and those people who need their faith to be bolstered by something as trivial as this need to question why they believe in the first place.
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