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For you yes for me I have only begun to fight
LOL.
I knew you were a part of that sect. Well, more power to you. Just don t push it on us.
Wizard “ well clearly all of this is rubbish... I am basing my beliefs on what my 7th grade science teacher tough me as a lad of course I could do research but nah I think I am right there for I am”
Lud “ I just want evidence not any or the archalogical or historical evidence that has been discovered over the last 2000 years mind you and if you bring any of that she uff I will laugh it off no what I want is evidence that I claim is evidence”
Rc7 “ well anyone who believes is an idiot I can say this because I have done no research whatsoever”
Darth “look if god came down from Heaven I might believe but beyond that my days of searching for the truth are behind me. I am far more comfortable sitting in my chair and utilizing things I learned a few decades ago to keep the faithful away in spite of those things might not be as accurate as they were”
Jake24 “wait people take this seriously hahahaha man that is funny especially like my brethren I have done no research whatsoever, I mean who the bell has heard of books anyways”
Did I leave anyone out again this isn’t a debate it’s a Ritz Brothers comedy hour
That was funny. Now do me.
Your argument are so poor that you must build a straw man for each and everyone of us? I'd say when you're in a hole don't dig but that's taking things too mildly with you. So please, when you're in a hole, at least don't dig using an excavator.
@DarthDimi that last picture... it nearly killed me.
Lud me thinks you protest too much
You post videos like you spout words. Without rhyme or reason, hoping one will stick to defend your faith.
'I didn't come to rescue Risico007 from you. I came here to rescue you from him.'
If you're going to 'some up' (sic) my 'pedantic arguments' by putting your own speculative words in my mouth at least make them coherent. I know you are happy to ride roughshod over the rules of logic but could we at least agree that correct English is a matter of fact and not faith?
I think we all had a blast reading that. Epic Sir, simply epic. Please keep it coming.
Yeah I'm with you there. Luds is putting it all on just to fit in with the cool kids when he really thinks that people are raised from the dead on a daily basis. I mean, like, uhm!
And rather than just continually bombarding us with videos about the possibility of Christ existing (something we have all acknowledged numerous times as being highly probable) any chance you can unearth some videos about how why God decided to give babies cancer or cause earthquakes or the big one - how he made talking snakes?
Yeah you've sent us this stuff before. Here's the link you sent last time: https://iands.org/about/about-iands27/leadership.html (see we do click on your links and read them) of the board members which you claimed were all prominent doctors and scientists when actually even the most cursory research reveals them to be cranks, people with books to plug and in one case, if I recall correctly, a coffee shop worker.
I find it curious that unverifiable hallucinations in the subconscious of people who were clinically dead with their brains temporarily starved of oxygen constitutes cast iron proof of God for you, yet the consensus of the global scientific community counts for cock all.
Anyway although we're all having a riotous time it's actually getting rather pathetic to watch now to be honest. It's got to the point where your corner really should throw in the towel as everyone is starting to fear for your safety such is the pummeling you're continually taking.
This is an interesting point. Say what you like about @Risico007 (and we all do, frequently) but at least he turns up for the battle. The only other defender of religion in this thread is @Dragonpol (although he tends to scarper and hide in a ditch somewhere the moment it starts getting a bit tasty) which I find rather odd.
This is a global forum and a quick wiki states that the global breakdown by religion is:
Christian 31%
Muslim 24%
None 16%
Hindu 15%
Buddhism 7%
So how come the 16% is so massively overrepresented on here?
Two hypotheses spring to mind:
1. Religious people are not, by and large, Bond fans. This makes sense as Bond enjoys plenty of sex (outside the sanctity of marriage), gambling, drinking and generally hedonistic living and not too much in the way of praying, coffee mornings and condemning homosexuals. Although to be fair Bond films do feature plenty of violence which most religious groups are partial to.
2. There are more than the two known believers of @Risico007 and @Dragonpol on here but they, for some reason, prefer to remain silent and do not wish to defend the most important and fundamental thing in their life. I mean if someone came on here slagging off OHMSS I wouldn't rest until I'd demolished their arguments, but OHMSS doesn't represent my philosophy for life (unless you count only eating Belgua from the north of the Caspian) and my eternal soul isn't at stake so where are all the fellow believers helping out @Risico007 and Draggers (and I think we can all say they are in direst need of your help)?
Why so timid believers? Surely you couldn't make a worse fist of defending God than @Risico007?
1. Interesting theory but I think it's false. I just did a survey on twenty of my friends who are also Christians. Fifteen are Bond fans. The other five just haven't seen them. I know this doesn't mean anything but just found it somewhat interesting after reading this.
2. Well Wiz, if I'm ever in the mood to get mocked for my beliefs, especially by you lol, I'll be the first one here. As our mutual friend @barryt007 said at the beginning of this thread, you'd need a sword and suit of armor to survive in this snakepit of a thread. Personally, I try to avoid snakepits lol. Sounds like @Risico007 has more balls than me on the subject.
Carry on.
Again let’s look at these stories for a split second
The neurologist whose video I posted first and foremost pointed out that is was scientifically impossible for him to have hallucinated his experience but ignoring that because in Thunderfingers parallel world we live in god doesn’t exist and Wizard knows more about neuroscience then a neurologist but moving on he had no idea he had a sister untill he met her in the afterlife and hen found out later that surprise surpise the woman he meet in the afterlife was his half sister who died 3 years earlier... again science it’s not just for skeptics anymore
Mussolini was a socialist, before he championed Italy's entry into the Great War and later invented Fascism, but he was never a communist. There is a difference between the two.
What kind of prophecy you are referring to? What was said what event was accurately predicted?
And who cares about these videos you post? Some neurologist claims one thing or another so what? I've heard a Muslim telling me the story of a man whose body froze to death but somehow survived and he then converted to Islam for whatever reason. Does that mean Allah is the one true god?
@Dragonpol My mistake about Mussolini. Either way, he went from an extreme to another and was wrong both times. Although I'd say he was more wrong and dangerous as a fascist.
In February 1924 Fascist Italy was the first country to recognise the USSR as a state, however. So there is that.
Yes, they are on the same spectrum and I agree socialism is more socially acceptable than communism. And that's true too. To rail against something, you often have to be that thing first of all. I suppose it stands to reason really. It also helps to explain the passion many atheists go on to express about religion and faith.
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1655632,00.html
Then compare this: https://ki.se/en/about/startpage which is the homepage of the institute doing the above research and the one for your esteemed body: https://iands.org/
A few quotes from their websites:
The Karolinska Insititute: 'Karolinska Institutet is one of the world’s foremost medical universities.
As a university, KI is Sweden’s single largest centre of medical academic research and offers the country’s widest range of medical courses and programmes.
Since 1901 the Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet has selected the Nobel laureates in Physiology or Medicine.'
IANDS: 'Don't NDEs prove that there is life after death?
Certainly this is a very popular interpretation, although there is no "proof" in a statistical sense and no consensus of opinion. A more cautious explanation is that NDEs suggest that some aspect of human consciousness may continue after physical death. '
I let the reader make up their own mind as to which is the more credible organisation.
Very good of you to do some impromptu research and despite the small sample concentrated on only Christians that does seem to disprove that theory and suggest that the religious (or at least Christian westerners) are more than happy to be Bond fans.
Well I think this thread is very fair in that we only mock people who hold ridiculous beliefs sans any discernible proof. If your beliefs fall under this description then sorry old boy but yes you are fair game. There's no sword or armor required to survive in this thread, merely logic and reason.
If we are to give your small survey some credence though then there should be plenty of believers on these boards but they never pipe up in this thread. Now I'm not saying you speak for everyone but it says a lot about the religious that they keep quiet for fear of ridicule. Where's your faith guys? The apostles were happy to die for their belief in God but you are worried about a bit of piss taking from some infidels? How's it going to look when you face St Pete at the pearly gates and he says 'What did you do when people were ridiculing the Lord? Why did you not speak up?'
Personally I'd counter with 'That's a bit rich coming from the bloke who kept denying his faith until the cock crowed mate. Now open up.'
I think because you predicted the outcome of the thread very well in the first post it received!