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  • Posts: 15,125
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Any Australian will confirm they are upside down, case closed.
    I did like the guy's 'Can you show me a photo of planes flying upside down' that would've proved it once and for all.

    Why give these idiots screen time and any kind of exposure?
    You could say the same about Songs of Praise.

    Song of Praise is downright embarrassing. Out of place and out of time. It's basically C of E propaganda.
    I disagree.

    SOP is what modern religion should be. A collection of OAPs, do gooders and virgins getting together for a sing song that harms nobody (although don't spend the licence fee on it and put it on BBC1 FFS) and makes them happy.

    It's when people - and governments!!!! - in this day and age actually take it seriously and give it respect and privilege that is not extended to other crank beliefs that I take umbrage.

    My issue is that I pay for it. And on BBC1 no less. That's what's anachronistic.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Any Australian will confirm they are upside down, case closed.
    I did like the guy's 'Can you show me a photo of planes flying upside down' that would've proved it once and for all.

    Why give these idiots screen time and any kind of exposure?
    You could say the same about Songs of Praise.

    Song of Praise is downright embarrassing. Out of place and out of time. It's basically C of E propaganda.
    I disagree.

    SOP is what modern religion should be. A collection of OAPs, do gooders and virgins getting together for a sing song that harms nobody.

    72 of them.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    From this week, the King of Norway is no longer to be considered a holy person.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Interesting.
    So men can marry several women, but women can't marry several men?
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    That seems to be the case
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    That is only common sense.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2018 Posts: 24,184
    Can I persuade you all to see this little video?



    Stephen Fry sums up a few interesting points, in my opinion.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    No one can deny that he is a smart man.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.
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    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.

    I can bet that some Christians here will comment on this saying "well see, Christianity isn't all that bad in comparison" and of course "well it's Islam so of course it's ridiculous."
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.

    I can bet that some Christians here will comment on this saying "well see, Christianity isn't all that bad in comparison" and of course "well it's Islam so of course it's ridiculous."
    Yep. There's some on here quite partial to piling in on Islam seemingly blissfully unaware that they believe in something equally ridiculous.
  • Posts: 15,125
    Ludovico wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.

    I can bet that some Christians here will comment on this saying "well see, Christianity isn't all that bad in comparison" and of course "well it's Islam so of course it's ridiculous."
    Yep. There's some on here quite partial to piling in on Islam seemingly blissfully unaware that they believe in something equally ridiculous.

    Nobody came back to me when I pointed it out.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.

    I can bet that some Christians here will comment on this saying "well see, Christianity isn't all that bad in comparison" and of course "well it's Islam so of course it's ridiculous."
    Yep. There's some on here quite partial to piling in on Islam seemingly blissfully unaware that they believe in something equally ridiculous.

    Nobody came back to me when I pointed it out.
    They are a little quiet these days aren't they. I wonder why they don't post links to all the positive aspects of religion like we do daily about the other side of the argument? There must be good news stories about religion they could unearth surely?

    Perhaps @Risico007 is too busy on that revelatory thesis he promised how many months ago?
  • Posts: 15,125
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    The 'religion of peace' in full flow there.

    I can bet that some Christians here will comment on this saying "well see, Christianity isn't all that bad in comparison" and of course "well it's Islam so of course it's ridiculous."
    Yep. There's some on here quite partial to piling in on Islam seemingly blissfully unaware that they believe in something equally ridiculous.

    Nobody came back to me when I pointed it out.
    They are a little quiet these days aren't they. I wonder why they don't post links to all the positive aspects of religion like we do daily about the other side of the argument? There must be good news stories about religion they could unearth surely?

    Perhaps @Risico007 is too busy on that revelatory thesis he promised how many months ago?

    The one about archeology and Quantum theory proving the resurrection? I don't know if I envy or feel sorry for the thesis examiners.
  • Posts: 4,617
    More funding for faith schools in the UK, great start to the day....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44067719
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    patb wrote: »
    More funding for faith schools in the UK, great start to the day....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44067719

    'These will be able to be fully selective on grounds of religion'


    So it's fine to discriminate in favour of religion? Just not against it.
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    42035511821_e4bba7bf05_b.jpgfunny by pat.beardmore, on Flickr
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    patb wrote: »
    More funding for faith schools in the UK, great start to the day....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44067719

    So although the UK is becoming less religious (apart from one certain minority) there's more funding for 'faith schools'....

    Well that makes a lot of sense.

    How the hell does this make for a progressive society?

    Or is this just more pandering to religious minorities so they can keep their children brainwashed with hateful tripe and separate from outside interference?
  • Posts: 15,125
    patb wrote: »
    More funding for faith schools in the UK, great start to the day....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44067719

    So although the UK is becoming less religious (apart from one certain minority) there's more funding for 'faith schools'....

    Well that makes a lot of sense.

    How the hell does this make for a progressive society?

    Or is this just more pandering to religious minorities so they can keep their children brainwashed with hateful tripe and separate from outside interference?

    The latter unfortunately and shamefully. Eduucation and religion just don't go together.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    patb wrote: »
    42035511821_e4bba7bf05_b.jpgfunny by pat.beardmore, on Flickr

    Spot on.
  • Posts: 15,125
    I'm going to a First Communion tomorrow. A friend of my wife has her daughter becoming a Bride of Christ and she invited us. It's the second First Communion I'll see since my apostasy. Will write about it here.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm going to a First Communion tomorrow. A friend of my wife has her daughter becoming a Bride of Christ and she invited us. It's the second First Communion I'll see since my apostasy. Will write about it here.

    Are you going to tell them how wrong they are?
  • Posts: 15,125
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm going to a First Communion tomorrow. A friend of my wife has her daughter becoming a Bride of Christ and she invited us. It's the second First Communion I'll see since my apostasy. Will write about it here.

    Are you going to tell them how wrong they are?

    I'll behave. That's their celebration and they have the right to believe whatever they want, however ridiculous. Beside my wife's friend knows that we are a family of atheists. I won't hide it if someone asks about it but won't pick up a fight or start taking names of what have you.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    One I've probably posted on here before as it's quite amusing/sickening (depending on your mood) but we just had an issue at work that reminded me of it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044222/UK-hands-free-pedestrian-crossing-devout-Jews-cross-road.html#ixzz1ZiZUamEb

    As usual the religious force the rest of us to bend over to accommodate their infantile beliefs.

    Leaving Wembley on a Saturday? Enjoy sitting on the A406 for ages as it takes an eternity to get through Henly's Corner. Get a call in the early hours of Saturday morning that your father has had a heart attack and is at death's door? Rather than race to the hospital why not just sit pointlessly at the lights while they give green time to pedestrians who aren't there.

    Where are the hands free crossings for people who lost all their fingers in an industrial accident and cant press the button? What about Dr No? Are TfL going to install a crossing for him? Of course not. Those people can bugger off but if religion bleats about something society is expected to just roll over.
  • Posts: 9,847
    Btw I am not quiet due to lack of anything other then time (sorry wiz as ego centric as you are there are things that take presidence over segueing with you I know I was shocked to find the world doesn’t revolve around you either CNN plans to do an 8 night special on it)

    I do have a few minutes though and why also I have put less emphasis on this forum well let me tell you all a parable

    There was once an atheist so full of himself he said there is no way a god could possibly exist he then died only to discover to hit horror Christianity was right all along as he was dragged to hell he pleaded with God “let me go back and warn my atheist brethren” god responded “they have Moses the prophets and my son to convince them surely they will not be moved if another should rise from the dead”
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Btw I am not quiet due to lack of anything other then time (sorry wiz as ego centric as you are there are things that take presidence over segueing with you I know I was shocked to find the world doesn’t revolve around you either CNN plans to do an 8 night special on it)

    I do have a few minutes though and why also I have put less emphasis on this forum well let me tell you all a parable

    There was once an atheist so full of himself he said there is no way a god could possibly exist he then died only to discover to hit horror Christianity was right all along as he was dragged to hell he pleaded with God “let me go back and warn my atheist brethren” god responded “they have Moses the prophets and my son to convince them surely they will not be moved if another should rise from the dead”

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  • RC7RC7
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Btw I am not quiet due to lack of anything other then time (sorry wiz as ego centric as you are there are things that take presidence over segueing with you I know I was shocked to find the world doesn’t revolve around you either CNN plans to do an 8 night special on it)

    I do have a few minutes though and why also I have put less emphasis on this forum well let me tell you all a parable

    There was once an atheist so full of himself he said there is no way a god could possibly exist he then died only to discover to hit horror Christianity was right all along as he was dragged to hell he pleaded with God “let me go back and warn my atheist brethren” god responded “they have Moses the prophets and my son to convince them surely they will not be moved if another should rise from the dead”

    You forgot your pills again.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Btw I am not quiet due to lack of anything other then time (sorry wiz as ego centric as you are there are things that take presidence over segueing with you I know I was shocked to find the world doesn’t revolve around you either CNN plans to do an 8 night special on it)

    I do have a few minutes though and why also I have put less emphasis on this forum well let me tell you all a parable

    There was once an atheist so full of himself he said there is no way a god could possibly exist he then died only to discover to hit horror Christianity was right all along as he was dragged to hell he pleaded with God “let me go back and warn my atheist brethren” god responded “they have Moses the prophets and my son to convince them surely they will not be moved if another should rise from the dead”
    And people claim faith schools give kids a good education? Clearly bible studies come higher on their list of priorities than punctuation.
  • Posts: 15,125
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Btw I am not quiet due to lack of anything other then time (sorry wiz as ego centric as you are there are things that take presidence over segueing with you I know I was shocked to find the world doesn’t revolve around you either CNN plans to do an 8 night special on it)

    I do have a few minutes though and why also I have put less emphasis on this forum well let me tell you all a parable

    There was once an atheist so full of himself he said there is no way a god could possibly exist he then died only to discover to hit horror Christianity was right all along as he was dragged to hell he pleaded with God “let me go back and warn my atheist brethren” god responded “they have Moses the prophets and my son to convince them surely they will not be moved if another should rise from the dead”

    @Risico007 you surpassed yourself with that parable. It's both a stupid and a morally repulsive one.

    Okay let's say one of my atheist friends comes back from the dead as some kind of Jacob Marley to warn me that God and hell exist and I'd go right there if I don't start worshipping Jesus. Assuming I'm sure he IS the soul of my friend and not some hallucinations caused by alcohol, grief, too much rich food or a combination of all these factors. I might decide that it is convincing enough to believe there is a God and it is the God of the Bible. I would then no longer be an atheist but would REFUSE to worship or even respect such god, as he proved himself to be a maniac, tyrannical, narcissistic deity. The criteria to go to heaven is worship and obedience? BS! I'd find the tortures of hell less painful than sucking up to God for all eternity in heaven.

    But when you're down to threats of hell you have no argument.
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