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I think we did make some: showing the theistic contradiction.
Could you explain what that's supposed to even mean?
This is an important point about religious belief.
If, as Ludovico suggests, the religious sit down and read all the texts and digest all the evidence for and against each one wouldn't you think that there might be an even spread between religions in different territories? But no instead we see all the Christians in Europe and America and all the Muslims in the Middle East.
Why is this if believers are intelligent people prepared to think critically and assess the evidence which, Draggers and Risico insist, is out there in overwhelming amounts?
Why if it’s an informed decision based on careful reflection were the odds that Draggers (this isn’t a witch hunt by the way Draggers old son, merely that you are a good illustration of the point I am trying to make) living in NI would be brought up as a Muslim rather than a Christian? Thousands to one.
The answer of course is they don’t think about it at all. They are spoon fed it by their parents at an impressionable age and then, for whatever reason, simply cannot let go of the comfort blanket.
If the questions about evidence we ask are proving to difficult for you to answer Draggers and Risico let us rephrase it another way:
Why don’t you believe in Islam?
You don’t need to provide any proof of the existence of a magical deity to answer this question, merely outline what has led you to reject the tenets of Islam.
I know... still worth asking. And still waiting for an answer @Dragonpol ...
Oh man last time I had Bovril I thought it was vile! I might just check in tomorrow morning.
Well get yourself off home for some rest and I’ll do the day shift. See you back here in 12 hours.
#waitingforanswers
Currently at London zoo with wife and son. Marveling at some wonders of evolution.
If evolution is true where are all the half fish-half lizards and half apes-half men?
And how could something as complex as an eye ‘evolve’?
Intelligent design is your answer mate.
The truth is out there if you just took time to educate yourself.
Did you know the human eye could only see colour for the last 20 000 years or so? The first people to talk about what they saw were probably considered bonkers.
It must've been like that time in 1967 when BBC 2 started broadcasting in colour.
I remember when Norwegian tv did the same, but we only had a B/W tv set. Hard to believe, there was no proof.
Just like this thread for the non-believers then. Against the odds you tied it in there, Thundy!
@Dragonpol Since you're back care to answer my question?
Baited question? How in the world can it be baited? It's a straight and honest question requiring a straight and honest answer! And it's an easy one too. From your way of dodging it then simply retreating I'd say that you have simply not even thought things through and has accepted the tenants of your faith without questioning their validity beforehand. Something you are capable of doing as long as it comes to other beliefs.
And what agenda are you implying I have?
Well, let me say I am very ashamed at having poked fun at Islam and I wish to rescind those comments. It was wrong of me to do that and I'm sorry if it caused you or others any offence. I made the joke without really thinking it through but have been hauled over the hot coals ever since. Hopefully this post will draw a line under that matter at the very least.
I do think also that I have nothing of any further use to add to this thread (and possibly this community more generally) and that I should cease posting until I have something worthy to say. I'm not intellectual enough to have these kind of debates and have been outclassed at every turn. One has to know when to stop with something and call it a day and now seems like the right time. No doubt others more worthy will fill the void in time.
While you all are stumbling in the dark here is another video from Dr William Craig
And Wizard and the rest set you clocks by this time tomorrow you will have the reasons I believe
@Dragonpol I do not want to rub it in but... Not long ago you were laughing about the 72 virgins promise now while not saying it's valid you deem it as... plausible? I will not ask what made you change your mind and I found nothing offensive in the mockery, I just wished you and others would apply the same logic and the same critical thinking towards all extraordinary claims. And maybe the same irony while we are at it.
And I intend to make fun of other religions as much as I can didn’t Hugh Hefner say if he got to Heaven he would make sure there wouldn’t be a single virgin left.
Well, no better way to counter a YT video than with another YT video.
This is Dr Craig proven logically flawed in 11 minutes.
Well, no better way to counter a YT video than with another YT video.
This is Dr Craig proven logically flawed in 11 minutes.