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  • Posts: 15,125
    Other solutions such as not getting raped?

    There are in some instances other solutions such as good sex ed. Not Christianity's forte.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    royale65 wrote: »
    My greatest fear is being diagnosed with Alzheimer's. If that's the case I'm booking my self into Dignitas.

    Although, I can stop by @DarthDimi's place. Any good euthanasia clinics near you old boy? That'd be a great send off. Having a few beers with Dimi then off to "the Clinic" to say goodbye to this mortal world,
    Absolutely. There are worse ways of going than a few Leffes and a bit of banter about Bond and what a load of bollocks religion is.

    Plus if the billion to one chance happens and it turns out it was all true it might be a laugh to rock up at the pearly gates half cut.
    royale65 wrote: »
    instead of having to "live" like a zombie.
    You still talking about Alzheimer's now or have you converted to religion?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    royale65 wrote: »
    My greatest fear is being diagnosed with Alzheimer's. If that's the case I'm booking my self into Dignitas.

    Although, I can stop by @DarthDimi's place. Any good euthanasia clinics near you old boy? That'd be a great send off. Having a few beers with Dimi then off to "the Clinic" to say goodbye to this mortal world,
    Absolutely. There are worse ways of going than a few Leffes and a bit of banter about Bond and what a load of bollocks religion is.

    Plus if the billion to one chance happens and it turns out it was all true it might be a laugh to rock up at the pearly gates half cut.
    royale65 wrote: »
    instead of having to "live" like a zombie.
    You still talking about Alzheimer's now or have you converted to religion?

    I was talking about Alzheimer's, but that was rather vague, wasn't it?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    royale65 wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    My greatest fear is being diagnosed with Alzheimer's. If that's the case I'm booking my self into Dignitas.

    Although, I can stop by @DarthDimi's place. Any good euthanasia clinics near you old boy? That'd be a great send off. Having a few beers with Dimi then off to "the Clinic" to say goodbye to this mortal world,
    Absolutely. There are worse ways of going than a few Leffes and a bit of banter about Bond and what a load of bollocks religion is.

    Plus if the billion to one chance happens and it turns out it was all true it might be a laugh to rock up at the pearly gates half cut.
    royale65 wrote: »
    instead of having to "live" like a zombie.
    You still talking about Alzheimer's now or have you converted to religion?

    I was talking about Alzheimer's, but that was rather vague, wasn't it?
    Yeah you have to be careful bandying the phrase ‘live like a zombie’ about in a religion thread given that we’re talking about people who follow a zombie and exhibit zombie like thought processes.
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I just feel we should look at other solutions

    Seriously if it was scientifically possible to remove a fetus from a woman who doesn’t want it to one who does I challenge anyone to find the issue with that everyone is happy
    You’re still running with this are you?

    So when the transplanted foetus doesn’t take and dies is it just the original mother who gets done for murder? The original mother and the surrogate?
  • Posts: 9,847
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?
  • Posts: 15,125
    Risico007 wrote: »
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?

    Straw. Man. Fallacy.

    And you know jack about evolution.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?

    How about the death penalty? That s legal in many countries.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?

    How about the death penalty? That s legal in many countries.

    Not many. At least not any civilised ones.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?

    How about the death penalty? That s legal in many countries.

    Not many. At least not any civilised ones.

    But animal slaughter is.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Sharia is the one stop shop for all this:
    Death penalty
    Animal slaughter
    Women having no rights
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Sharia is the one stop shop for all this:
    Death penalty
    Animal slaughter
    Women having no rights

    Where I do sign up?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    royale65 wrote: »
    Sharia is the one stop shop for all this:
    Death penalty
    Animal slaughter
    Women having no rights

    Where I do sign up?
    I think you just need to fly over to Syria and you’re good.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    That far? Bollocks to that then.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    royale65 wrote: »
    That far? Bollocks to that then.
    Well Bradford a bit closer to home.

  • Posts: 15,125
    Something that I was thinking about watching The Atheist Experience: shouldn't the God the theists believe here on this thread ask their God in prayers to reveal himself to us fellow heathens or give to the theists the right arguments to convince us? Forget the moral, forget the utter incompetence of the Church when it comes to sexuality, biology or sexual education. Shouldn't God know exactly what it would take to convince us of his existence?
  • Posts: 9,847
    So by your logic murder should be legal after all shouldn’t we consider it Darwinian to see who would survive the most dangerous game?
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Something that I was thinking about watching The Atheist Experience: shouldn't the God the theists believe here on this thread ask their God in prayers to reveal himself to us fellow heathens or give to the theists the right arguments to convince us? Forget the moral, forget the utter incompetence of the Church when it comes to sexuality, biology or sexual education. Shouldn't God know exactly what it would take to convince us of his existence?

    I could say something similar about evolution but I digress I find it more interesting how hard people’s hearts are and how angry they seem to be at a simple Carpenter from Nazerth
  • Posts: 15,125
    Evolution unlike God has been observed and demonstrated... And exists whether you understand it or not and whether you like it or not.

    Given your assumption you understand jack about evolution. Humans are social animals capable of empathy, preserving the species and the well being of its members are essential. That's why murder is wrong.

    I'm not angry at this hypothetical Jesus, although the cult leader depicted in the Bible often comes off as a lunatic and an unpleasant man. But I'm not angry at him. His followers on the other hand often make me angry, but for very good reasons.
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I could say something similar about evolution


    So if you were in a museum, and there was a skull of Cro Magnon man there, what would you think it was?
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    Risico007 wrote: »

    These scientists also state they're not advocating the theory intelligent design either. So your link doesn't really back up your argument for a 'god', does it?
    But back to my question. If you were to see a skull of Cro Magnon man in a museum, would you refuse to believe it was an earlier version of human? And if so, what would you think it was?
  • Posts: 15,125
    More links? Not exactly unbiased or reliable either. And you could find 500 scientists around the world against that wouldn't change the vast amount of evidence for it... Or prove God.

    Also you do understand (or do you @Risico007 ?)that most Christian churches now accept evolution as a fact. The Catholic Church for instance (yes the one that made up or came up with the Turin Shroud you are so keen about). Even they know that ship has sailed! I don't what denomination of Christianity you belong to but for your education atheism and the theory of evolution are two different things. There were atheists before Darwin.
  • Posts: 15,125
    Risico007 wrote: »

    Do you even bother reading the articles on the links you send? Or does God tells you to send them? This is box standard cryptozoological hoax. If Bigfoot doesn't exist it changes nothing to the theory of Evolution.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I was just musing on DNA and it’s role in evolution and stumbled across this gem of an article which seems pretty conclusive:

    https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/dna-the-tiny-code-thats-toppling-evolution

    I’m doing your work for you now @Risico007!
  • Posts: 15,125
    I was just musing on DNA and it’s role in evolution and stumbled across this gem of an article which seems pretty conclusive:

    https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/dna-the-tiny-code-thats-toppling-evolution

    I’m doing your work for you now @Risico007!

    And DNA being shaped like pasta it proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I was just musing on DNA and it’s role in evolution and stumbled across this gem of an article which seems pretty conclusive:

    https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/dna-the-tiny-code-thats-toppling-evolution

    I’m doing your work for you now @Risico007!

    And DNA being shaped like pasta it proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    I'm from the religion of the All-Merciful Tagliatelle God.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Did pasta come before DNA?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I was always taught the first pasta crawled out of the sea circa 5 million BC (Before Cannelloni).

    But then you look at the amazing shapes and wonder how they could form without an intelligent designer so that’s what brought me to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    I mean how could evolution create something as complex as penne or farfalle?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I think this thread's getting a little bit silly again now, isn't it?
  • Posts: 15,125
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I think this thread's getting a little bit silly again now, isn't it?

    I will ask you the same question I asked before: what claims regarding the Flying Spaghetti Monster are silly?
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