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Gary Oldman is an excellent actor - he would have made an excellent,menacing Blofeld.
Movie Blofeld could follow book Blofeld by getting plastic surgery so extensive he's unrecognizable from his old self. Which means Walz could be dropped in favor of a new, more appropriate actor.
Yes, that certainly would be one way around the casting of Blofeld, even if it does smack of being a little corny for today's Bond film audience.
Unfortunately, I think he will be back again in Bond 25, and despite seeing all the different ideas here, I don't see the way how Blofeld's return can become interesting to me. I will be extremely and pleasantly surprised if they succeed in making it so.
At least I hope that he'll be over and done with in Bond 25. Having him back again in the future is probably the only thing that could ruin my enthusiasm for the franchise.
The past should stay in the past. A discreet throwback here and there is okay, but a big NO to bringing back old villains, no matter how 'iconic' and 'epic' they once were.
@Revelator do you think Blofeld can be fixed after spectre like the childhood stuff and continuity or do you think they killed him in one film like the damage is done and is unfixable
"Moreau, bring me everyone."
"What do you mean, everyone?"
"EVERYOOOOONEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!"
I think the character can still be fixed if in the next film the childhood stuff is completely ignored. Giving Bond a personal relationship to Blofeld added nothing to either character in Spectre. Fleming wisely made Blofeld a recurring nemesis before casting him Tracy's slayer, which gave Bond extra motivation to destroy him. There is no point in emulating this aspect of Blofeld--we don't need a remake of OHMSS or for Bond to grieve after another dead girlfriend--so Blofeld must revert to being a brilliant mastermind, directing an enemy intelligence network for terrorists.
While it's true there's no turning back with what they've already done, the next film doesn't have to focus on Bond/Blofeld's past at all. I think even for those upset with how SP handled things, simply bringing back Blofeld wouldn't guarantee a Bond 25 disappointment. Blofeld doesn't even have to be played by Christoph Waltz - though I do believe if directed well, he could still be a great Blofeld rather than a serviceable one.
Same here
Agreed here too. People focus too much on the wrongdoings of the previous film. And we all know events from the past are by no means guarantee for the future outcome.
Just look at Ernst Blofeld in YOLT and how that film, with Connery, felt rather tired and overblown because of insane expensive production design. The film in the end to me turned out to be one of Connery's weakest.
But then two years later Blofeld was back in OHMSS. Yes, there was a slight continuity error (How could Blofeld not recognize James "Hillary" Bond? Was his Japanese make-up in YOLT really that good). But what Telly did to Blofeld was....perhaps the best iteration of the man.
So let's bring it on then for Bond #25.
Excellently put.
For what it's worth, I'm still advocating making Oberhauser a busybody, who just pretended to be the head of Spectre, just to impress that much hated foster brother. It would also be a good excuse to bring back the real Blofeld with a vengeance, since he has to redeem his now ridiculed name.
Good observations particularly regarding the novels: Blofeld became Bond's nemesis almost by necessity. I think the whole stepbrother backstory being already ignored by Bond (he calls him Blofeld the moment his enemy reveals him his new name for crying out loud), then they can just base their antagonism on their previous clashes.
Yeah that sort of thing. Why not?! I mean it's more terrifying than just the knowledge that SPECTRE would have access to the information collected by all the intelligence agencies. This is coming from someone who enjoys SPECTRE the film immensely!
Why not? Because the plot of the YOLT movie sucked that's why.
Now I'm all for a closer adaptation of YOLT instead, however challenging it may be.
From watching SPECTRE it's Blofeld that wants to make it a big deal and Bond kind of shrugs it off but the damage was done already, just let it be dealt with in that one scene and from then on it's just Bond vs Blofeld and the past connection is irrelevant and it's just his job to oppose this man and no personal connection.
I agree Waltz could well pull a Bardem given the right material but his does have a ltd box of tricks.
An Oldman Blofeld just sound too good to be true and that would have been something to see, he does subtlety so well, his George Smiley is so sedate but one scene in particular in TTSS you see the nastier darker GS just lying below the surface.
I love this scene and it's one of the highlights in this masterpiece of a film, so glad Gary confirms Smiley's People is going into production next year apparently.
My rewrite of Denbigh in my alternative SP version is someone close to Mallory's past and his age, Oldman was one of my suggestions for this role, although Mark Strong, Christopher Eccleston or Jason Issacs would have also suited.
Besides, I get the sense that some people involved weren't as keen on the idea as Mendes and whoever else were, because it was really downplayed by the end. It didn't have much bearing on the story at all, almost like they were ashamed of it. And I think the backlash to it will make those involved in production who did like the idea realise it was a mistake. So I don't think they need to address it and I don't think they will. They can quietly forget about it without it seeming forced because it was such an afterthought in the final film anyway.
Still it's in the world though. It will take a long long time until people stop making jokes (especially Austin Power ones) about it.