Saying goodbye to DC, the final scene...ideas.

1235789

Comments

  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    jake24 wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Should be a simple film ending moment. Nothing more, nothing less. Why people feel Craig should get some kind of special nod or treatement that none of the other actors got is beyond me.
    Because this is the first film they've gone into knowing it's the actor's last.

    @jake24 you think they expected Moore to do the Living Daylights?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Well, TLD was written with Moore in mind, first.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2018 Posts: 10,591
    Also, given the dramatic turn the Craig era has taken the last four films, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that his send-off will be of a little more substance than previous iterations, would it?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Wikipedia says that Connery quit prior to YOLT's release (during filming in Japan). Does anyone know if that's true? If so, Craig won't be the first to preannounce his retirement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Live_Twice_(film)

    If I were to guess, I'd say there won't be anything special. They will keep it open ended, as they did SP. The trajectory of the Craig era has been increasingly towards the Bond from the past, and I can't see why they would change that up as they transition towards his successor.
  • Posts: 19,339
    bondjames wrote: »
    Wikipedia says that Connery quit prior to YOLT's release (during filming in Japan). Does anyone know if that's true? If so, Craig won't be the first to preannounce his retirement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Live_Twice_(film)

    If I were to guess, I'd say there won't be anything special. They will keep it open ended, as they did SP. The trajectory of the Craig era has been increasingly towards the Bond from the past, and I can't see why they would change that up as they transition towards his successor.

    That's how I see it,and I think it will be the case.

  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    bondjames wrote: »
    Wikipedia says that Connery quit prior to YOLT's release (during filming in Japan). Does anyone know if that's true? If so, Craig won't be the first to preannounce his retirement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Live_Twice_(film)

    If I were to guess, I'd say there won't be anything special. They will keep it open ended, as they did SP. The trajectory of the Craig era has been increasingly towards the Bond from the past, and I can't see why they would change that up as they transition towards his successor.

    I can only think of the interview he did on the set of YOLT when he told the interviewer that this was his last Bond film. Effectively he had quit.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2018 Posts: 23,883
    NicNac wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Wikipedia says that Connery quit prior to YOLT's release (during filming in Japan). Does anyone know if that's true? If so, Craig won't be the first to preannounce his retirement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Live_Twice_(film)

    If I were to guess, I'd say there won't be anything special. They will keep it open ended, as they did SP. The trajectory of the Craig era has been increasingly towards the Bond from the past, and I can't see why they would change that up as they transition towards his successor.

    I can only think of the interview he did on the set of YOLT when he told the interviewer that this was his last Bond film. Effectively he had quit.
    Great thanks. So in a way, that's similar to Craig's comments on Colbert.

    I just realized, Connery is ironically the only Bond to have only lived twice. In fact, he lived three times!
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Yes but Connery quit due to some issues with producers but that's not the case with Craig. Another thing is Connery didn't knew YOLT would be his last upuntil shooting started, so it wasn't exactly pre-planned otherwise he would have gotten better fair well as well.
  • Posts: 4,615
    Desmond L's final scene is wonderfully written and executed IMHO with a perfect balance of pathos but still works within the context of the movie. I'm so glad they did that rather than a "normal" scene.

    If done well, the same could apply to DC's era.

    PS how about an additional scene after the credits so DC can still end in the classic style (in the arms of a gorgeous girl) but then a little bonus after the credits?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Yes but Connery quit due to some issues with producers but that's not the case with Craig. Another thing is Connery didn't knew YOLT would be his last upuntil shooting started, so it wasn't exactly pre-planned otherwise he would have gotten better fair well as well.

    True and the same thing could be said about Lazenby.
  • Posts: 7,653
    A young CGI-ed Roger Moore and Sean Connery both sipping from their drinks as Daniel Craig walks of into the sunset and both remark to each other, "I am glad it happened to this fellow."
  • Posts: 4,619
    I don't see why there needs to be any grand ending. End the film like a Bond film, by having Bond in bed with the Bond girl, and cut to the credits. They already painted themselves into a corner with the SP ending, if they manage to get out, there is no need to paint themselves into yet another corner. Leave it open ended, that way they can either continue in the present timeline, or return to the original 1962-2002 timeline.
    There is no "1962-2002 timeline". Dalton's Bond wasn't a 007 agent in the 60s and he definitely didn't visit Jamaica in 1962. Also, they should absolutely not leave BOND 25 open ended. They all know this will be Craig's final Bond movie, so they have the opportunity to do something they have never done before: make a proper conclusion for a Bond era.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,785
    So Bond in Q's workshop wasn't sniffing Rosa Klebb's shoe from his own mission.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I don't see why there needs to be any grand ending. End the film like a Bond film, by having Bond in bed with the Bond girl, and cut to the credits. They already painted themselves into a corner with the SP ending, if they manage to get out, there is no need to paint themselves into yet another corner. Leave it open ended, that way they can either continue in the present timeline, or return to the original 1962-2002 timeline.
    There is no "1962-2002 timeline". Dalton's Bond wasn't a 007 agent in the 60s and he definitely didn't visit Jamaica in 1962. Also, they should absolutely not leave BOND 25 open ended. They all know this will be Craig's final Bond movie, so they have the opportunity to do something they have never done before: make a proper conclusion for a Bond era.
    Agreed.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Bond settles down in Jamaica and starts writing a spy novel, about a character he calls Ian Fleming.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Bond settles down in Jamaica and starts writing a spy novel, about a character he calls Ian Fleming.
    :))

    I was about to make a similar suggestion.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    Bond settles down in Jamaica and starts writing a spy novel, about a character he calls Ian Fleming.

    Better still, he writes a novel about a bumbling spy named Johnny English.
  • Posts: 7,653
    The final scene should be DC telling the screen that he is going for a drink and then see him walking down the San Marco place in Venice and see him walking towards a table with Sir Connery, Sir Roger (CGI is fine), Pierce, Dalton and the other fella having a drink. Then the original James Bond theme from Dr. NO.

    The cinema will go wild.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    Posts: 556
    SaintMark wrote: »
    The final scene should be DC telling the screen that he is going for a drink and then see him walking down the San Marco place in Venice and see him walking towards a table with Sir Connery, Sir Roger (CGI is fine), Pierce, Dalton and the other fella having a drink. Then the original James Bond theme from Dr. NO.

    The cinema will go wild.
    “That sounds marvelous.”

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    SaintMark wrote: »
    The final scene should be DC telling the screen that he is going for a drink and then see him walking down the San Marco place in Venice and see him walking towards a table with Sir Connery, Sir Roger (CGI is fine), Pierce, Dalton and the other fella having a drink. Then the original James Bond theme from Dr. NO.

    The cinema will go wild.
    Yes, please!
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,541
    SaintMark wrote: »
    The final scene should be DC telling the screen that he is going for a drink and then see him walking down the San Marco place in Venice and see him walking towards a table with Sir Connery, Sir Roger (CGI is fine), Pierce, Dalton and the other fella having a drink. Then the original James Bond theme from Dr. NO.

    The cinema will go wild.

    I Iike the idea but sadly it won't happen. Better still let me contribute to it rather than having drink bond should walk into a casino and all of them playing poker
    images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQhxu5n4BM_OOxTAPoj4l3LsO-gR1aeB3ovFcCVy1Vb80UCeH-U
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    SaintMark wrote: »
    The final scene should be DC telling the screen that he is going for a drink and then see him walking down the San Marco place in Venice and see him walking towards a table with Sir Connery, Sir Roger (CGI is fine), Pierce, Dalton and the other fella having a drink. Then the original James Bond theme from Dr. NO.

    The cinema will go wild.

    The only thing I would change is that I wouldn't have Roger sitting at the table. Instead, I would have him would drive by in his bondola, prompting Dalton to pull a Victor Tourjansky and causing Lazenby to get his drink spilled all over him, to the amusement of Brosnan. A fistfight between Brozza and Laz would break out. Then Connery would beat the crap out of everybody and leave the place mumbling something about Cubby and Harry having ripped him off.
  • Posts: 7,653
    One can dream.
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    Posts: 805
    I posted this a while back and still think it's the best way to go...
    I've thought for a while that the change to a new actor from Craig will be one of the more difficult ones to pull off due to the way his interpretation has been self-contained with a clear passage of time from fresh faced new boy to grizzled veteran.

    As the YOLT novel has been rumoured to be the main inspiration for the new film, I would imagine it would be an ending very similar to that, so something like:

    - Bond defeats baddie in cliff top castle
    - Castle explodes
    - Bond presumed dead
    - Solemn ceremony aboard Royal Navy vessel, Union Jack draped empty coffin dropped overboard
    - End titles
    - Post credit scene - shot of empty beach, waves lapping at sand, union jack washed ashore. Pan to still white hand, twitches. Cuts to black.

    Bond 26
    - opens with - aboard Royal navy ship. Officer looking through binoculars to small island. Sees well-built man exit treetop den with pacific island lovely. "I think we've found him Sir". Cue Tom Hardy...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Bond gets married in Jamaica and lives happily hereafter.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 15,114
    Sorry wrong thread.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    He'll turn to the camera and say...

    "Well, that was it. For now. See you in Bond 26: Blofeld's Revenge."
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
    Posts: 44
    Infrequent poster here.

    How about a play on Connery's first scene from DN, with Bond playing baccarat. He exchanges witty banter with someone at the table (whether flirty or not can depend on Madeleine's fate) including the "Bond, James Bond" line, when he's approached by a casino employee who tells him there is someone looking for him. Bond looks over his shoulder to see a nervous Tanner trying to get his attention from the lobby, then excuses himself as Connery did, "I must pass the shoe. I hope you'll forgive me, but it's most important."
  • edited May 2019 Posts: 4,408
    Seano wrote: »
    Infrequent poster here.

    How about a play on Connery's first scene from DN, with Bond playing baccarat. He exchanges witty banter with someone at the table (whether flirty or not can depend on Madeleine's fate) including the "Bond, James Bond" line, when he's approached by a casino employee who tells him there is someone looking for him. Bond looks over his shoulder to see a nervous Tanner trying to get his attention from the lobby, then excuses himself as Connery did, "I must pass the shoe. I hope you'll forgive me, but it's most important."

    A reversion of the DN scene was basically used in CR and SF:
    • In DN, Bond arrives fully-formed and introduces himself with the inconic line. In CR, we meet Bond early in his career and see him become the character in DN, therefore the final line of that film mirrors the opening of DN.
    • Plus, the exact same idea was retrofitted into the ending of SF was Moneypenny and the new M.

    Basically, it's been done. The nostalgia tank is almost empty.

    I'm still fairly certain the idea is to kill Bond off. I'm very certain in fact. The most recent rumour in the tabloids is that Bond is poisoned but before dying gets to kill Malek.

    The final scene should just be Bond lying ambiguously waiting to die. I keep thinking about the end of Layer Cake and how provocative that final image is.

    In hindsight it's hilarious as Q kills 007:


  • Posts: 12,837
    I think him dying is definitely possible. Depends how keen they are on keeping the Craig era as its own little saga (ala Nolan's Batman) now. SP definitely seemed to be made with that in mind but obviously it didn't go down too well so maybe they will have a more open ended ending of him rejoining MI6 and going from there.

    I think we'll be able to guess once we get a trailer, which should tell us whether or not the rumours of there being a new 007 turn out to be true. Because I can't see them ending the film with Bond going back into retirement again, we've already been there and done that. But equally, they definitely won't make him losing his number a permanent thing. Even if there's a new 007 in this film, it'll be a one off, and that means an ending with Bond coming back to active service wouldn't work. Unless of course she dies, or quits, or turns out to be a villain, leaving the number available for Bond again. But I think that's unlikely. I think if that is the route they're taking, the angle will be a mentor/student sort of thing with her and Bond. Which would make him dying a much more likely option imo. Him coming back will prove that retirement isn't an option for him, so killing him off after he passes the torch (in the Craig universe, followed by a reboot obviously) seems fairly likely to me.

    I'm surprised about how conservative some fans seem to be about these rumours too. We know that it won't have any bearing on the series. If Bond dies, he'll only be dead until they reboot with a new actor. Same if he has been replaced by a new 007, it's only for the sake of one story, not a permanent thing. So I don't mind at all personally as long as this film is followed by a reboot. I'd prefer the Craig era to be its own closed off thing anyway because it's already so different. I mean, Blofeld is pretty much his brother in CraigBond's world. That's not a timeline I want them to stay in going forward.
Sign In or Register to comment.