PETITION: Give the fans a more influential say in the (uncertain) future of the James Bond franchise

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    vzok wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    She would be on top. Poor, poor Tanner, I think was what you meant.

    Wouldn't Tanner just randomly pop up with plot exposition.

    - So Bond now knows you two were working together all along. We... can always do this later.
    - You know what? Let's.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    I rest my case @DarthDimi :-).
    SaintMark wrote: »
    Petition time I will take a pass nothing is as worse as when the looneys take over, take the US as an example with the clown in chief.

    I do not want fans running the franchise they is crazy.

    Well, I find that notion a bit grotesque. I am not asking in my petition to let all Bond fans take over the bloody Bond franchise. *sigh*

    I'm intrigued to know just which of the fans you are referring to exactly then and how they will be selected from all the other fans? Do you need to have 10,000 posts on here to be considered or, as I strongly suspect, is selection based entirely on whether you have written a Bond screen treatment called Murder on Wheels or not?
    Actually it suddenly makes sense that Bond and Blofeld didn t recognize each other in OHMSS. Donald Pleasence was Franz Oberhauser, and used that same trick. He was just looking after the cat, emptying the litter box and so on while Blofeld was on vacation.

    Cracking stuff.

    I picture Blofeld coming back from his mini break every time to find Franz has ruined his latest scheme.

    FRWL - 'You've killed Kronsteen? He was our top planner. Evil chess grandmasters aren't ten a penny you know. Oh Franz.'

    TB - 'You've electrocuted number 9 for embezzlement? Those are just the figures for cheques and credit cards written down there. There's also a massive bag of cash under the table he was going to give me at the end of the meeting. Oh Franz.'

    YOLT - 'You've nearly started world war 3? Are you mental? I built that space program to put a satellite up so the Chinese could get free sky sports. Oh Franz.'

    OHMSS - 'You've managed to get my laboratory blown up? I was on the verge of curing all allergies there and well on my way to a Nobel prize for medicine until you ruined everything. Oh Franz.'

    DAF - 'You've fired all those diamonds into space? I was planning to fashion them into a ring and tiara for Irma and propose to her. Oh Franz.'

    FYEO - 'You've offered away my delicatessen in stainless steel? No one touches my delicatessen in stainless steel you know that. Oh Franz.'

    SP - 'You've single handedly destroyed the character of Blofeld more than Austin Powers ever did and backed the writers into a dead end for B25? Oh Franz.'

    You wonder why he doesnt just throw him into a piranha pool?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    vzok wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    She would be on top. Poor, poor Tanner, I think was what you meant.

    Wouldn't Tanner just randomly pop up with plot exposition.

    I can so vividly picture Tanner rambling on as Lucia is on top of him, with Bond just off to the corner of the bed...

    Tanner: "Well, 007, contrary to popular belief and colloquial criticism, men who are bottoms like I am being at this moment should not feel the least bit shamed of it. It's a natural sex position for starters, and the woman resting on top of the man is said to feel a sense of dominance in her position that, for some, is sexually gratifying and empowering. Sex partners, no matter their position as a top or bottom, should understand and respect each other's roles in the act that is a sexual congress, as it can be a beautiful, liberating and passionate expression of human energy when performed consensually and in the right mood. Scientific reports written on the sexual adrenaline of consent and think pieces published on the liberation of the act and its ability to help us carve out an identity for ourselves and our partners underscore the important role sex can serve for adults of any age and persuasion."

    Bond: "Tanner?"

    Tanner: "Yes, 007?"

    Bond: "Shut up."
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I appreciate the idea behind it, but my thoughts mirror just about everyone else's in here. EON doesn't really owe the fans anything, and a 100 signature petition isn't going to have them hop on board with our ideas, either.

    I know it's already been echoed, but for every rock solid idea I've seen, I've seen an idea that has me cringe beyond belief, an idea I can't possibly fathom appearing in a Bond installment. I'd rather let the "professionals" (had to put that in quotes, writing has been pretty weak lately) handle the script.

    Having said that, they could surely do better than the duo who has been working on the scripts since the 1990's. Can't hurt to try some new blood, but dipping into the massive pool of fans for our ideas? No thank you. Saw someone else mention it in passing on another page, but I don't even trust my own ideas to translate well onto the big screen.

    Even if a situation like this was a reality, where do they begin? Formulate a big team of employees to sift through every single idea and fan script out there and nitpick the bits of gold they find? Choose at random, causing further petitions if people's ideas aren't picked? Go off a made up merit system that doesn't necessarily dictate who does or doesn't have good ideas? There's really no avenue I'd see this working.

    They should hire new writers and see what they come up with. Can't hurt.
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    And get David Arnold back...he is the best composer to give Daniel the big send-off that he gave him on his big debut.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    Someone slipped a piece of paper under my door a couple of minutes ago. Here's what it says:
    Hello,

    I'm Michael Wilson, producer of the James Bond films. There's no way we're letting any of you get your hands in our business, you right bunch of nitwits!

    Kind regards
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Someone slipped a piece of paper under my door a couple of minutes ago. Here's what it says:
    Hello,

    I'm Michael Wilson, producer of the James Bond films. There's no way we're letting any of you get your hands in our business, you right bunch of nitwits!

    Kind regards

    Hahahaha yes!!

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Someone slipped a piece of paper under my door a couple of minutes ago. Here's what it says:
    Hello,

    I'm Michael Wilson, producer of the James Bond films. There's no way we're letting any of you get your hands in our business, you right bunch of nitwits!

    Kind regards

    Why does Michael sound English there? Maybe he only speaks in an Americanized fashion and writes everything else as an Englishman. ;)
  • I rest my case @DarthDimi :-).
    SaintMark wrote: »
    Petition time I will take a pass nothing is as worse as when the looneys take over, take the US as an example with the clown in chief.

    I do not want fans running the franchise they is crazy.

    Well, I find that notion a bit grotesque. I am not asking in my petition to let all Bond fans take over the bloody Bond franchise. *sigh*

    I'm intrigued to know just which of the fans you are referring to exactly then and how they will be selected from all the other fans? Do you need to have 10,000 posts on here to be considered or, as I strongly suspect, is selection based entirely on whether you have written a Bond screen treatment called Murder on Wheels or not?
    Actually it suddenly makes sense that Bond and Blofeld didn t recognize each other in OHMSS. Donald Pleasence was Franz Oberhauser, and used that same trick. He was just looking after the cat, emptying the litter box and so on while Blofeld was on vacation.

    Cracking stuff.

    I picture Blofeld coming back from his mini break every time to find Franz has ruined his latest scheme.

    FRWL - 'You've killed Kronsteen? He was our top planner. Evil chess grandmasters aren't ten a penny you know. Oh Franz.'

    TB - 'You've electrocuted number 9 for embezzlement? Those are just the figures for cheques and credit cards written down there. There's also a massive bag of cash under the table he was going to give me at the end of the meeting. Oh Franz.'

    YOLT - 'You've nearly started world war 3? Are you mental? I built that space program to put a satellite up so the Chinese could get free sky sports. Oh Franz.'

    OHMSS - 'You've managed to get my laboratory blown up? I was on the verge of curing all allergies there and well on my way to a Nobel prize for medicine until you ruined everything. Oh Franz.'

    DAF - 'You've fired all those diamonds into space? I was planning to fashion them into a ring and tiara for Irma and propose to her. Oh Franz.'

    FYEO - 'You've offered away my delicatessen in stainless steel? No one touches my delicatessen in stainless steel you know that. Oh Franz.'

    SP - 'You've single handedly destroyed the character of Blofeld more than Austin Powers ever did and backed the writers into a dead end for B25? Oh Franz.'

    You wonder why he doesnt just throw him into a piranha pool?

    Great stuff!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    I rest my case @DarthDimi :-).
    SaintMark wrote: »
    Petition time I will take a pass nothing is as worse as when the looneys take over, take the US as an example with the clown in chief.

    I do not want fans running the franchise they is crazy.

    Well, I find that notion a bit grotesque. I am not asking in my petition to let all Bond fans take over the bloody Bond franchise. *sigh*

    I'm intrigued to know just which of the fans you are referring to exactly then and how they will be selected from all the other fans? Do you need to have 10,000 posts on here to be considered or, as I strongly suspect, is selection based entirely on whether you have written a Bond screen treatment called Murder on Wheels or not?
    Actually it suddenly makes sense that Bond and Blofeld didn t recognize each other in OHMSS. Donald Pleasence was Franz Oberhauser, and used that same trick. He was just looking after the cat, emptying the litter box and so on while Blofeld was on vacation.

    Cracking stuff.

    I picture Blofeld coming back from his mini break every time to find Franz has ruined his latest scheme.

    FRWL - 'You've killed Kronsteen? He was our top planner. Evil chess grandmasters aren't ten a penny you know. Oh Franz.'

    TB - 'You've electrocuted number 9 for embezzlement? Those are just the figures for cheques and credit cards written down there. There's also a massive bag of cash under the table he was going to give me at the end of the meeting. Oh Franz.'

    YOLT - 'You've nearly started world war 3? Are you mental? I built that space program to put a satellite up so the Chinese could get free sky sports. Oh Franz.'

    OHMSS - 'You've managed to get my laboratory blown up? I was on the verge of curing all allergies there and well on my way to a Nobel prize for medicine until you ruined everything. Oh Franz.'

    DAF - 'You've fired all those diamonds into space? I was planning to fashion them into a ring and tiara for Irma and propose to her. Oh Franz.'

    FYEO - 'You've offered away my delicatessen in stainless steel? No one touches my delicatessen in stainless steel you know that. Oh Franz.'

    SP - 'You've single handedly destroyed the character of Blofeld more than Austin Powers ever did and backed the writers into a dead end for B25? Oh Franz.'

    You wonder why he doesnt just throw him into a piranha pool?

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  • Thanks @Birdleson :-). You may be the first forum colleague in this topic who has some nice, positive, yet critical comments about my petition. Thanks for signing.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Wizard and Birdleson, thanks for the laugh.

    You too, Gustav.
  • Birdleson wrote: »
    Personally, I relish the idea of @Gustav_Graves at his most irrationally insane (not an insult, I loves you) inundating EON, Broccoli and Wilson with a flood of unwanted texts, e-mails, calls, and inappropriate visits to their homes and offices (and the resulting carnage and arrests). So I will certainly sign any petition that facilitates that result!

    20 signatures so far. Thank you guys.....whoever you are :-)
  • Posts: 1,031
    Petition - rah rah rah!
  • Dennison wrote: »
    Petition - rah rah rah!

    :-). The next Bond film needs to be muchhhh better than the previous one @Dennison! Let it be a film that makes people struggle about deciding which Craig-film is better: "Casino Royale", "Skyfall" or "Bond 25"! ;-)

    RAH RAH RAHHHHHH :-D
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I wish you would sign it with Gustav Graves.
  • I wish you would sign it with Gustav Graves.

    Can I do that?
  • Posts: 1,031
    Dennison wrote: »
    Petition - rah rah rah!

    :-). The next Bond film needs to be muchhhh better than the previous one @Dennison! Let it be a film that makes people struggle about deciding which Craig-film is better: "Casino Royale", "Skyfall" or "Bond 25"! ;-)

    RAH RAH RAHHHHHH :-D

    Power to the People!
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    Madness....sheer madness.
    8-|
  • barryt007 wrote: »
    Madness....sheer madness.
    8-|

    Nah, it's not madness. Donald Trump! That's madness.
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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Madness....sheer madness.
    8-|

    Nah, it's not madness. Donald Trump! That's madness.

    Donald Trump got elected through just democratic process. This is just histrionic wailing because EON haven't rung you to ask about turning your script into reality.
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    If you really want to make a stand then vote with your feet, don't buy a ticket for the next Bond film.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited November 2017 Posts: 9,117
    Dennison wrote: »
    If you really want to make a stand then vote with your feet, don't buy a ticket for the next Bond film.

    Quite.

    Frankly it would make zero difference to EON's strategy if none of us went to the next film so insignificant is our box office contribution.

    They'd be far wiser from a business perspective to have a forum of Chinese people giving their input as to what they want than listen to us mugs here.
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 11,119
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Madness....sheer madness.
    8-|

    Nah, it's not madness. Donald Trump! That's madness.

    Donald Trump got elected through just democratic process. This is just histrionic wailing because EON haven't rung you to ask about turning your script into reality.

    Oooowh please, stop your negative cynical comments. Can't you just see...SEE.....that this petition comes from a good heart? I spent some days to write that frikkin' letter, in the nicest, most thoughtful way. All of the negativity and criticism I read from forummembers basically empowered me to write it! I summed up arguments that, in my opinion, make perfect sense. Instead, you keep focussing on just the headline of the petition, when in essence this is so much more; this is about empowering EON to do their uttermost best in creating the best possible film! Nothing more, nothing less. What's wrong about that?!?!

    Secondly, I have had it with the sheer negativity in this forum. Criticism is one thing. And sometimes rightfully so. There are fans in here who create the most lovely pieces of fan art, even though I am crritical about that. Through discussion I actually learned to like fan art. That's what fans do as well: Uniting! So, when I do my uttermost best, spent hours in writing in my best English something that in essence is 200% positive, this topic turns into something I could not have even predicted! Just.....why can't WE forummembers not say something like "Oooowh I am not sure I agree, but great work dear forummember!". Is that so difficult? Just...just reflect a bit on what has been written in here. Is it really OK to say all this? Some people sincerely feel bad about that. And that does include me..

    Just show a bit more empathy amidst all your cynicism and, rightful, criticism @TheWizardOfIce. That's not much to ask?? And this message also counts for certain forum moderators in here. And if this petition doesn't help shit? So be it! At least it comes from a good, positive heart! I prefer THIS over all that bickering in the "Production Topic". I know your cynical comments create fun and laughter every now and then. But please also realize that your comments sometimes hurt people's best intentions. And if I hurt some people in here? Look, I stay silent for a moment and I apoligize.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Madness....sheer madness.
    8-|

    Nah, it's not madness. Donald Trump! That's madness.

    Donald Trump got elected through just democratic process. This is just histrionic wailing because EON haven't rung you to ask about turning your script into reality.

    Oooowh please, stop your negative cynical comments. Can't you just see...SEE.....that this petition comes from a good heart? I spent some days to write that frikkin' letter, in the nicest, most thoughtful way. All of the negativity and criticism I read from forummembers basically empowered me to write it! I summed up arguments that, in my opinion, make perfect sense. Instead, you keep focussing on just the headline of the petition, when in essence this is so much more; this is about empowering EON to do their uttermost best in creating the best possible film! Nothing more, nothing less. What's wrong about that?!?!

    Secondly, I have had it with the sheer negativity in this forum. Criticism is one thing. And sometimes rightfully so. There are fans in here who create the most lovely pieces of fan art, even though I am crritical about that. Through discussion I actually learned to like fan art. That's what fans do as well: Uniting! So, when I do my uttermost best, spent hours in writing in my best English something that in essence is 200% positive, this topic turns into something I could not have even predicted! Just.....why can't WE forummembers not say something like "Oooowh I am not sure I agree, but great work dear forummember!". Is that so difficult? Just...just reflect a bit on what has been written in here. Is it really OK to say all this? Some people sincerely feel bad about that. And that does include me..

    Just show a bit more empathy amidst all your cynicism and, rightful, criticism @TheWizardOfIce. That's not much to ask?? And this message also counts for certain forum moderators in here. And if this petition doesn't help shit? So be it! At least it comes from a good, positive heart! I prefer THIS over all that bickering in the "Production Topic". I know your cynical comments create fun and laughter every now and then. But please also realize that your comments sometimes hurt people's best intentions. And if I hurt some people in here? Look, I stay silent for a moment and I apoligize.

    Ok ... I'm convinced ... you are officially taking the piss ... good joke @Gustav_Graves , to think a PETITION to EON, oh dear .. you had me going there....
  • Well, sometimes a person is a lonely voice in the desert. I'm not gonna piss though. I need to shit. @Dennison
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    Well, sometimes a person is a lonely voice in the desert. I'm not gonna piss though. I need to shit. @Dennison

    Then we take Berlin.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Secondly, I have had it with the sheer negativity in this forum.
    I am beginning to see that. Perhaps it might be time for you to take a break then, if this place is becoming so intolerable for you. It's not worth getting so worked up about things. For the record, the Wiz did compliment your efforts earlier in this thread, so he along with the rest of us appreciate your efforts and intent, even if we appear to disagree with the approach and think it's misguided.

    From the first few comments in response I think it was quite clear that most folks don't think this is a good idea. Perhaps we should just leave it at that. That is democracy after all, which is what I believe you were trying to encourage with this letter.

    As far as I'm aware, at present there is no 'Production'. Just 'Speculation'. That is what folks are doing on the other thread, and it's an interesting daily discussion to pass the time as we endure the long wait between films. jake24 has very kindly updated the first page of the thread with the 'news'. If all of that is so upsetting, I recommend avoiding the thread and participating on other ones. It doesn't make sense to get so worked up based on other's speculative opinions.

    In fact, from reading the comments here in response to your letter, most participants on that thread have a reasonable perspective on the situation and are not letting it get them down. They are just there having a bit of fun discussing the possible options for the (as of yet) unknown future and will eventually accept whatever choices are made. There are exceptions of course (some members have threatened to do some rather drastic things if future decisions aren't in line with their thinking), but they are in a minority.
  • Let it be a film that makes people struggle about deciding which Craig-film is better: "Casino Royale", "Skyfall"

    I like Spectre better than both.

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