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Why is it pointless to channel criticism in alternative ways in here? To turn criticism in something more cosntructive and less black-and-white? There's also a great deal one could learn from the way I am approaching criticism instead of just painting this as pointless or 'ridiculous'. Hence I just posted this in 'the other topic':
So it's not just overblown passion from my side. I have given this a long thought. And frankly, certain forummembers in here could learn a bit from the more positive-spirited, more constructive approach I have towards criticism :-).
Bravo!
You make some excellent points here that a lot of us could get behind but unfortunately I don't remember any of that making it into the petition, just some fawning over Annette Bening and bemoaning the fact that EON don't read unsolicited scripts.
If, in your letter, you had addressed the letting auteurs run wild situation, the dereliction of duty laid bare by the Sony leaks (when it seemed like only the studio who realised what a shambles the script was), the staggeringly misguided decision to green light brothergate, the increasing apathy in getting a new Bond film off the ground etc then a lot of us might well have signed - even though it wouldn't change the essential pointlessness of the exercise because EON really don't care what we think as long as the box office is healthy.
But in your quest for respectfulness and constructive criticism you seemed to sugar the pill so much it ended up all sugar and no pill - and crucially practically zero actual criticism.
I really don't want EON to listen to people who believe David Arnold is a good composer, who think Skyfall had a bad screenplay and who are obsessed with Blofeld.
With pompous statements like this, nobody should listen to you. Now I don't care what you think of Arnold but there is no sense in this kind of childish attitude. You want to disagree with people that's fine but you're out of line.
Funny because You claim you want what's best for the franchise then take a dump on others who happen to want things you don't. Is it starting to come to you now?
If you would be sitting in a room where Barbara Broccoli, Michael Wilson, Daniel Craig, the new Bond director where brainstorming about the upcoming Bond film, you would be fired without a doubt. Not just that, you would be banned.
It's kind of a trend these days to be 'political incorrect'. And I see that when I read your comments. But I find it rather dangerous at times. Your foul language perhaps works on a forum like this, but outside this "closed online fraternity" you would sound like a most irritating child.
And I refuse to behave differently in here compared to my real life. I think it's even healthier if people apply a bit more constructive diplomacy in their comments at times.....if they try to be their real self at times (and I know that can be the case, because I have been whatsapping with you a couple of times, and then you already sound soo much differently). What's wrong being being myself on here?
So, please look into this a bit. Because only then discussions can stay civilized, and can actually make better impact. And it can keep the 'soul' in discussions, and not the cold-hearted political incorrectness of so many other people in here.
Perhaps I give "zero actual criticism" as well. Aaah well, so be it.
And this is why I'm happy to leave making the Bond films to the professionals ...
Well I happen to think that David Arnold IS a good composer,so there.
You simplify everything in such a grotesque way, that you make me feel very sad. As if that's the only thing I am asking for. For God sake........ff-ing read. My basic point of my petition is to let us fans share in our, sometimes sincere, worries about the Bond franchise. What's wrong with sharing those with EON Productions? You make it sound like a bunch of Erdogans and Putins want to take over EON Productions. That wasn't even my style and tone. Just stop simplifying this thing.
There are other solutions as well. More comic-cons with James Bond for instance? In which journalists and fans alike finally ask some goddamn good, critical questions to EON Productions. Producer Kathleen Kennedy IS actually doing this...
He's a southerner, afraid I have that against him.
You know what a petition like that would work well for Walkers Crisps. They just don't fill them bags up enough, I feel like I'm buying air ...
Same as me you cheeky git ;)
Aaah but don't forget that has now been explained ,it's to keep the crisps fresh for longer .
I can't envisage a scenario whereby I am on the EON payroll but obviously if I were I would behave completely differently as I'd want to keep my cushy job.
But as a mere paying customer I'm entitled to call out stuff that is shit and in the event that I were round a table with EON in that capacity (who knows maybe they will react to your petition and I will be voted as the fans representative - makes sense as I'm the only one of us who is consistently 100% right) I probably wouldn't use the word 'shit' but I would explain that in the eyes of the fans stuff like brothergate was utterly unacceptable. That can be said 'respectfully' without dodging the issue.
But you really need to lighten up a bit mate. The internet is all just a branch of the entertainment business. No one takes all this shit seriously do they? People don't really want to come here and read 'respectful' and 'nuanced' constructive criticism. They want to have a rant and a rave, let off steam and enjoy a bit of sparring (as evidenced by Panchito and Murdock's little spat above).
EON couldn't care less about our opinion and they broadly know what they're doing so why so serious? We've had bad Bond films before and we'll have them again but we've also had good ones and some wonderful ones and we'll have those again too.
Praise indeed from the master.
And increase the profit margin ...
That goes without saying.
Thank you.
So what you actually saying is that it's your taste and intellectual capacities that should set the frame standards for Bond movies. Interesting concept, I give you that.
Should they listen to that?
I do also and felt Arnold scores were getting better with each film, Arnold injects panic and excitement with his scores which is something that's been lacking since he left the series.
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