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  • TracyTracy
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    Besides Drac Prince of Darkness , Scars is another favorite
  • TracyTracy
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    1978-1995 was Walkens golden age imo : Deer Hunter , Dead Zone , Brainstorm , At close range , Biloxi Blues , Communion , Comfort of strangers , Batman Returns , Nick of Time....imo anyway
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Tracy wrote: »
    Besides Drac Prince of Darkness , Scars is another favorite

    Definitely loved Scars, as well as the 'contemporary' ones that followed it.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,636
    Tracy wrote: »
    1978-1995 was Walkens golden age imo : Deer Hunter , Dead Zone , Brainstorm , At close range , Biloxi Blues , Communion , Comfort of strangers , Batman Returns , Nick of Time....imo anyway

    I agree, he’s probably my favorite actor.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I love Hammer horror, but I find myself to be more drawn towards their less-liked early 70's period than the lauded 60's one.
    Films like The Vampire Lovers, the later Dracula's and Blood from the Mummy's Tomb are all amongst my favourite Hammer films.

    I love the '70's era as well. Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires, Vampire Circus, Vampire Lovers, Horror of Frankenstein, Scars and A.D. 1972 are all among my favorites.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I love Hammer horror, but I find myself to be more drawn towards their less-liked early 70's period than the lauded 60's one.
    Films like The Vampire Lovers, the later Dracula's and Blood from the Mummy's Tomb are all amongst my favourite Hammer films.

    I love the '70's era as well. Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires, Vampire Circus, Vampire Lovers, Horror of Frankenstein, Scars and A.D. 1972 are all among my favorites.

    Great to see some love for Horror of Frankenstein! I ordered the Blu-rays of both HoF and Scars of Dracula yesterday :) They'll be my first Hammers on Blu-ray.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


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  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


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    I'd say he was pretty miscast IMO.

    I did like the Harker in the recent Dracula TV series and what they did with his character.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    My favourite has to be Bruno Ganz, with John Van Eyssen coming in as a close second.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    It's not a great movie, but I actually quite enjoyed Holmes & Watson (2018).
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,169
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.

    Reeves was great in the role. And as you say, I don t remember any of the others.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.

    Ganz is imo THE best Harker so far. Keanu is remembered in the role but for all the wrong reasons. The 1970s BBC adaptation for all its flaws had a great Harker and Mina. Shame almost everybody else was miscast.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    None of the Harkers have really stood out for me. Lugosi, Palance and Kinski are my favourite Draculas. But I struggle to put one Harker over the other.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.

    Ganz is imo THE best Harker so far. Keanu is remembered in the role but for all the wrong reasons. The 1970s BBC adaptation for all its flaws had a great Harker and Mina. Shame almost everybody else was miscast.

    Ganz was a great Harker. Quite true that Keanu is remembered for the wrong reasons. I thought his performance stood up when i watched it recently. Not as bad as I remembered.
    If I were to pick a personal favorite Harker, it might be either David Manners or John Van Eyssen. Trevor Eve , I liked as well. All were quite different.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.

    Ganz is imo THE best Harker so far. Keanu is remembered in the role but for all the wrong reasons. The 1970s BBC adaptation for all its flaws had a great Harker and Mina. Shame almost everybody else was miscast.

    Ganz was a great Harker. Quite true that Keanu is remembered for the wrong reasons. I thought his performance stood up when i watched it recently. Not as bad as I remembered.
    If I were to pick a personal favorite Harker, it might be either David Manners or John Van Eyssen. Trevor Eve , I liked as well. All were quite different.

    I love Horror of Dracula, but Van Eyssen I never liked his look. Bosco Hogan was very good I think and he looked like I imagined Harker. Judi Bowker is almost perfect as Mina. But Keanu Reeves was all wrong: wrong accent, cardboard acting, even Coppola said it was a bad casting call.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    As far as DRACULA films go one could debate for years who was the best Count.
    That said, in my controversial opinion:

    KEANU REEVES WAS THE DEFINITIVE AND BEST JONATHAN HARKER


    680b7ed8fa8faf28f8a99da4cd08681e.jpg

    That is controversial. Imo he was the worst and the most unconvincing Englishman since Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood.

    I remember that being one of the film's biggest criticisms back in '92. However, I'd defend Keanu in the sense that he is the most remembered Harker. Possibly Bruno Ganz comes close. Casual film goers are more likely to remember Keanu than, say Trevor Eve or Murray Brown.

    Ganz is imo THE best Harker so far. Keanu is remembered in the role but for all the wrong reasons. The 1970s BBC adaptation for all its flaws had a great Harker and Mina. Shame almost everybody else was miscast.

    I agree Ganz is the best, though I did like Van Eyssen. I don't dislike Reeves or anything, but I find him the weakest link of that film.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Here's one:

    John Belushi might have had better movies, but I think Chris Farley was more individually talented, and would have gone farer in his career then Belushi.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Here's one:

    John Belushi might have had better movies, but I think Chris Farley was more individually talented, and would have gone farer in his career then Belushi.

    I'll debate you all day on that one. I felt just the opposite that Farley was just a Belushi wannabe, I think he even admitted such, and much of his flailing schtick was his go-to.

    I did love his van-down-by-the-river bits on SNL and thought he was even better when he did quieter things like when he would do his own little show within a show where he interviewed celebrities like Paul McCartney, shyly showing hero worship: "Remember when you were in the Beatles...that was awesome."

    Belushi had more range than just the crazy slob guy. He had musical talent and played against type later in his career in films like Continental Divide and Neighbors. He was also trying to do other projects along those lines and I think he could've had a similar career to Bill Murray as he aged and didn't fit the crazy guy image as much anymore.

    Even when doing that type of character, there was a charm about him by lifting the eyebrow and not having to fall over and throw things that made him able to win over an audience that I never saw from Farley. And from what I've read, Belushi could do the same in real life, be crazy and somewhat frightening but becoming a friendly, sweet guy.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Here's one: Network is not a great film. It's better as a kind of essay, a means of conveying interesting ideas, than as a story, where it doesn't succeed in creating substantial emotions, and enough interest in the characters, beyond the depth --at times superficial, at times fleeting-- that their monologues allow them.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Not sure if it's controversial, but there are many "big" movies which I enjoy a lot in cinema, then never cared to watch ever again. Avatar for instance. And pretty much all the Harry Potter movies.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Totally agree re 'AVATAR'. Awful film. In fact I think James Cameron is wildly overrated and i think he hasnt done anything watchable since Terminator 2: Judgement Day!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Totally agree re 'AVATAR'. Awful film. In fact I think James Cameron is wildly overrated and i think he hasnt done anything watchable since Terminator 2: Judgement Day!

    We have truly underrated Richard Donner as a director in the movie-going public. He takes risks, tries new genres, learns from his career and mistakes. He’s got classics in action, epic, comedy, and horror. How many other people can say that? Had he not been fired from Superman, he could have helped him and his world go further than where he is now. Enough with Lex Luthor, General Zod and made up villains WB!
    Meanwhile, we over praised James Cameron. Other than special effects, what has he honestly pushed forward? He rips off more in his writing than Quentin Tarantino, and no where more creative when he does. He’s mean and self centered. Talks a lot, and never amounts to anything. Had Titanic or Avatar bombed, he would be the modern day Michael Cimino. Richard Donner is always worth your time, James Cameron isn’t.

    I also like your opinion on Wonder Woman! Great viewpoint!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Agreed on both Avatar and The Horror of Frankenstein.

    I also quite like Sangster's other Hammer film: Lust for a Vampire.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,434
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Totally agree re 'AVATAR'. Awful film. In fact I think James Cameron is wildly overrated and i think he hasnt done anything watchable since Terminator 2: Judgement Day!

    We have truly underrated Richard Donner as a director in the movie-going public. He takes risks, tries new genres, learns from his career and mistakes. He’s got classics in action, epic, comedy, and horror. How many other people can say that? Had he not been fired from Superman, he could have helped him and his world go further than where he is now. Enough with Lex Luthor, General Zod and made up villains WB!
    Meanwhile, we over praised James Cameron. Other than special effects, what has he honestly pushed forward? He rips off more in his writing than Quentin Tarantino, and no where more creative when he does. He’s mean and self centered. Talks a lot, and never amounts to anything. Had Titanic or Avatar bombed, he would be the modern day Michael Cimino. Richard Donner is always worth your time, James Cameron isn’t.

    I also like your opinion on Wonder Woman! Great viewpoint!

    Am with you regarding Richard Donner, but feel he wasted a lot of his talent on those Lethal Weapon movies. The first was good, the rest..not so!
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,757
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Lethal Weapon 2 is the best of the bunch.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,434
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Lethal Weapon 2 is the best of the bunch.

    No, hated it, and found it baffling it got the same cert as LTK that year, when it was far more violent!
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